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1.) bluecat - 10/23/2013
:laugh:
2.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2013
I have a musical tribute to ObamaCare in the music video thread...You might have to go back a couple of pages because of all the traffic that thread gets...LOL...
Seeing what happened to the Ocare website makes me feel not too bad about my epic fail to get my blog running this year...At least I didn't spend six million dollars and do a face-plant...
And there's still [I]hope[/I] for [B]me[/B]...
:wink
Seeing what happened to the Ocare website makes me feel not too bad about my epic fail to get my blog running this year...At least I didn't spend six million dollars and do a face-plant...
And there's still [I]hope[/I] for [B]me[/B]...
:wink
3.) bluecat - 10/23/2013
Jay Leno made the statement that "Washington is now sending in their best and brightest to solve the problem." "Maybe that was the problem, that they didn't have their best and brightest working on it to begin with."
I'm enjoying all of this. All of it. In a sad, pathetic way.
I'm enjoying all of this. All of it. In a sad, pathetic way.
4.) DParker - 10/23/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;12019]At least I didn't spend six million dollars and do a face-plant...[/QUOTE]
You're too kind. I think the current reliable estimates put the cost (so far) of a federal face-plant at somewhere around 16 x that much.
[QUOTE=bluecat;12020]I'm enjoying all of this. All of it. In a sad, pathetic way.[/QUOTE]
These posts were brought to you by the number "$100 million" and the word "schadenfreude".
You're too kind. I think the current reliable estimates put the cost (so far) of a federal face-plant at somewhere around 16 x that much.
[QUOTE=bluecat;12020]I'm enjoying all of this. All of it. In a sad, pathetic way.[/QUOTE]
These posts were brought to you by the number "$100 million" and the word "schadenfreude".
5.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;12019]...Seeing what happened to the Ocare website makes me feel not too bad about my epic fail to get my blog running this year...At least I didn't spend six million dollars and do a face-plant...
And there's still [I]hope[/I] for [B]me[/B]...
:wink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DParker;12021]You're too kind. I think the current reliable estimates put the cost (so far) of a federal face-plant at somewhere around 16 x that much.
These posts were brought to you by the number "$100 million" and the word "schadenfreude".[/QUOTE]
Six million must have been an early number from the Obama brain trust...For some reason stuck in my mind...Although I admit I probably wouldn't have spent even six million if I didn't have it....:re:...
I am stunned at their expertise at all levels now.
Three hundred million dollars is now in the realm of possibility...
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/21/technology/obamacare-website-contracts/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/[/url]
And there's still [I]hope[/I] for [B]me[/B]...
:wink[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DParker;12021]You're too kind. I think the current reliable estimates put the cost (so far) of a federal face-plant at somewhere around 16 x that much.
These posts were brought to you by the number "$100 million" and the word "schadenfreude".[/QUOTE]
Six million must have been an early number from the Obama brain trust...For some reason stuck in my mind...Although I admit I probably wouldn't have spent even six million if I didn't have it....:re:...
I am stunned at their expertise at all levels now.
Three hundred million dollars is now in the realm of possibility...
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/21/technology/obamacare-website-contracts/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/[/url]
6.) Floyd - 10/23/2013
'I cannot even stand to look at you.' :laugh:
Must have met with great success. Else the narc would have said more about it.
Actually, I would think more people would have come forward with an affront so terrible.
Who ever said it would have legendary status; good or bad.
Must have met with great success. Else the narc would have said more about it.
Actually, I would think more people would have come forward with an affront so terrible.
Who ever said it would have legendary status; good or bad.
7.) DParker - 10/24/2013
8.) crookedeye - 10/26/2013
You guys need to get off Obama...its the law of the land! just accept it..theres nothing you can do about it..lol ..you can bitch and moan until the sunrises...the media has control over 3/4th of the country already..the country's never going to be the same..
9.) bluecat - 10/27/2013
We're sore losers.
10.) crookedeye - 10/27/2013
moneymaker doesn't discriminate...he tells it like it is...
11.) crookedeye - 10/27/2013
by facts!!
12.) crookedeye - 10/27/2013
bluecat i'm going to harlin next week!!showup!! i'll buy you a beer or two are three..
are 4..
you do no where harlin is ?? don't you?
are 4..
you do no where harlin is ?? don't you?
13.) crookedeye - 10/27/2013
i'll be the strong good looking guy..dressed in camo..
14.) crookedeye - 10/27/2013
we'll be th guys drinking beer and making fire!
15.) bluecat - 10/28/2013
I've been to most of the reservoirs there. Harlan is very nice. Thanks for the invite. I'll be wearing my stilettos.
16.) DParker - 10/29/2013
17.) bluecat - 10/29/2013
:laugh:
18.) bluecat - 10/30/2013
Leadership through deception.
What a looser. :wink
What a looser. :wink
19.) bluecat - 10/30/2013
Sebelius said that the people that are calling for my resignation are not the people I work for.
Mrs. 404...maybe we need to talk about who you really work for and who pays your salary.
Mrs. 404...maybe we need to talk about who you really work for and who pays your salary.
20.) DParker - 10/30/2013
Within seconds of Sebelius telling the House Energy & Commerce Committee that the ObamaCare “website has never crashed” the screenshot on the left was captured from the main page of HealthCare.gov:
21.) bluecat - 10/30/2013
Mrs. 404, why the long face?
22.) bluecat - 11/01/2013
Lawmakers: Sebelius failed at government website projects prior to serving in Obama administration
Obama administration Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ failure at designing websites to provide government services began during her term [B]as governor of Kansas[/B], long before the Obamacare website debacle, Kansas political insiders told The Daily Caller.
[B]Sebelius oversaw numerous costly and disastrous government website projects during her six-year governorship (2003-2009), including a failed update of the Department of Labor’s program to provide unemployment pay and other services and similar updates pertaining to the Department of Administration and the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) services.[/B]The Department of Labor’s overhaul of its computer programs was a notable boondoggle, according to 14-year former Kansas state senator and former state Labor Secretary Karin Brownlee.
“In the Kansas Senate, I chaired the Commerce committee. We had oversight over the Department of Labor. For years, we watched as the Department of Labor under Sebelius worked on that computer program. After seven years and $50 million, something should work,” Brownlee told TheDC.
“In Kansas if you have a 40 or 50 million dollar project, that’s a lot of money,” Brownlee said, noting that the Labor Department project was funded by federal money while other Sebelius website projects sucked up state taxpayer dollars. “They started and stopped that project with at least 3 different major contractors.”
When Brownlee was appointed to head the state’s Department of Labor under new Republican governor Sam Brownback in 2011, she was tasked with cleaning up Sebelius’ technical mess.
“When I walked in the door at Labor [the computer update] was half-done. There were about 240 errors in work-around. It was not functional,” Brownlee said.
“The agency was spending more than $1 million per month on contractors and other things. So as soon as we found out how much was going out per month we had to shut that down. That wasn’t workable,” Brownlee said. “In the private sector, that would never be acceptable.” (RELATED: GOP senator to Sebelius: RESIGN)
“The computer [program update] was supposed to help deliver unemployment insurance benefits, which is critical, obviously, during a recession, because unemployment was much higher at the time. But the agency kept hiring more people because the computer system didn’t work. The Obama administration provided the money to fund it, and the money ended when I got there so we had to downsize considerably,” Brownlee said. ”I brought in a consultant who fixed everything so that what we had was somewhat usable.”
“To Brownback, it was important to him that things worked. The point of a computer system is not to have one in and of itself. It’s to facilitate services for constituents. And that’s impossible when the system doesn’t work,” Brownlee said.
Sebelius’ other government website projects, funded with state taxpayer money, also created considerable headaches.
“Under Sebelius there were a number of computer projects. At the Department of Administration, there was a SMART system for [tracking] financial data about agencies and a system for HR information. The performance on it was extremely poor. The Department of Revenue re-did their DMV programs. That started under Sebelius,” Brownlee said, adding that Brownback was “saddled with that [DMV] contract” when he took office.
Kansas constituents were left waiting days to obtain DMV services.
“In government, these computer transactions are a black hole for tens of millions of dollars,” Brownlee said. “People worked around it and worked the other way pretty much. I don’t know that [Sebelius] was ever personally held responsible for any of this…when you’re trying to serve your citizens somebody has to be responsible.”
Other lawmakers acknowledged the failures of Sebelius’ tech projects.
“We heard several excuses for IT failures under Sebelius. Especially towards the end of her administration. The legislature was often frustrated with the Labor Department, Department of Administration, and also Pharmacy claims. It was hard to get clear answers back then too,” Kansas state Rep. Scott Schwab told The Daily Caller.
“We pretty much expected HealthCare.gov to fail, because she has a pattern of failing on these big initiatives. We thought that was why she was not nominated originally,” Schwab said.
Whether or not President Obama knew about Sebelius’ website track record when he put her in charge of overseeing the Obamacare website remains unclear.
“When you consider that Obamacare is the pinnacle of president Obama’s presidential career, why would he not have been informed?,” Brownlee said. “Why is it that the private sector can do these projects and do them in a timely way and they work and government can’t?”
The White House and the Department of Health and Human Services did not return requests for comment.
Read more: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/23/lawmakers-sebelius-failed-at-government-website-projects-prior-to-serving-in-obama-administration/#ixzz2jOqObfHU[/url]
Obama administration Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ failure at designing websites to provide government services began during her term [B]as governor of Kansas[/B], long before the Obamacare website debacle, Kansas political insiders told The Daily Caller.
[B]Sebelius oversaw numerous costly and disastrous government website projects during her six-year governorship (2003-2009), including a failed update of the Department of Labor’s program to provide unemployment pay and other services and similar updates pertaining to the Department of Administration and the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) services.[/B]The Department of Labor’s overhaul of its computer programs was a notable boondoggle, according to 14-year former Kansas state senator and former state Labor Secretary Karin Brownlee.
“In the Kansas Senate, I chaired the Commerce committee. We had oversight over the Department of Labor. For years, we watched as the Department of Labor under Sebelius worked on that computer program. After seven years and $50 million, something should work,” Brownlee told TheDC.
“In Kansas if you have a 40 or 50 million dollar project, that’s a lot of money,” Brownlee said, noting that the Labor Department project was funded by federal money while other Sebelius website projects sucked up state taxpayer dollars. “They started and stopped that project with at least 3 different major contractors.”
When Brownlee was appointed to head the state’s Department of Labor under new Republican governor Sam Brownback in 2011, she was tasked with cleaning up Sebelius’ technical mess.
“When I walked in the door at Labor [the computer update] was half-done. There were about 240 errors in work-around. It was not functional,” Brownlee said.
“The agency was spending more than $1 million per month on contractors and other things. So as soon as we found out how much was going out per month we had to shut that down. That wasn’t workable,” Brownlee said. “In the private sector, that would never be acceptable.” (RELATED: GOP senator to Sebelius: RESIGN)
“The computer [program update] was supposed to help deliver unemployment insurance benefits, which is critical, obviously, during a recession, because unemployment was much higher at the time. But the agency kept hiring more people because the computer system didn’t work. The Obama administration provided the money to fund it, and the money ended when I got there so we had to downsize considerably,” Brownlee said. ”I brought in a consultant who fixed everything so that what we had was somewhat usable.”
“To Brownback, it was important to him that things worked. The point of a computer system is not to have one in and of itself. It’s to facilitate services for constituents. And that’s impossible when the system doesn’t work,” Brownlee said.
Sebelius’ other government website projects, funded with state taxpayer money, also created considerable headaches.
“Under Sebelius there were a number of computer projects. At the Department of Administration, there was a SMART system for [tracking] financial data about agencies and a system for HR information. The performance on it was extremely poor. The Department of Revenue re-did their DMV programs. That started under Sebelius,” Brownlee said, adding that Brownback was “saddled with that [DMV] contract” when he took office.
Kansas constituents were left waiting days to obtain DMV services.
“In government, these computer transactions are a black hole for tens of millions of dollars,” Brownlee said. “People worked around it and worked the other way pretty much. I don’t know that [Sebelius] was ever personally held responsible for any of this…when you’re trying to serve your citizens somebody has to be responsible.”
Other lawmakers acknowledged the failures of Sebelius’ tech projects.
“We heard several excuses for IT failures under Sebelius. Especially towards the end of her administration. The legislature was often frustrated with the Labor Department, Department of Administration, and also Pharmacy claims. It was hard to get clear answers back then too,” Kansas state Rep. Scott Schwab told The Daily Caller.
“We pretty much expected HealthCare.gov to fail, because she has a pattern of failing on these big initiatives. We thought that was why she was not nominated originally,” Schwab said.
Whether or not President Obama knew about Sebelius’ website track record when he put her in charge of overseeing the Obamacare website remains unclear.
“When you consider that Obamacare is the pinnacle of president Obama’s presidential career, why would he not have been informed?,” Brownlee said. “Why is it that the private sector can do these projects and do them in a timely way and they work and government can’t?”
The White House and the Department of Health and Human Services did not return requests for comment.
Read more: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/23/lawmakers-sebelius-failed-at-government-website-projects-prior-to-serving-in-obama-administration/#ixzz2jOqObfHU[/url]
23.) DParker - 11/02/2013
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there...
[URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/01/tennessee-state-senator-presents-kathleen-sebelius-with-really-embarrassing-gift-and-she-doesnt-look-very-happy-about-it/"]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/01/tennessee-state-senator-presents-kathleen-sebelius-with-really-embarrassing-gift-and-she-doesnt-look-very-happy-about-it/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/01/tennessee-state-senator-presents-kathleen-sebelius-with-really-embarrassing-gift-and-she-doesnt-look-very-happy-about-it/"]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/01/tennessee-state-senator-presents-kathleen-sebelius-with-really-embarrassing-gift-and-she-doesnt-look-very-happy-about-it/[/URL]
24.) bluecat - 11/04/2013
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
FYI, she always looks like she just bit into a nice crisp crabapple.
FYI, she always looks like she just bit into a nice crisp crabapple.
25.) DParker - 11/05/2013
Matthews' clumsy song-and-dance notwithstanding...even the Obama cheerleading squad at MSNBC can't talk themselves into trying to polish this turd:
[video=youtube;9rc0yhXUEig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rc0yhXUEig[/video]
[video=youtube;9rc0yhXUEig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rc0yhXUEig[/video]
26.) ARCHERXP - 11/05/2013
calling it a turd is giving it too much credit imo lol
27.) bluecat - 11/05/2013
I heard yesterday on the Blaze that the liberal heads were saying Obama simply misspoke...
28.) bluecat - 11/05/2013
...80 times.
29.) Swamp Fox - 11/06/2013
LOL
Obviously, the usual suspects in the media are a little late with their discovery. Matthews looked like he was sitting on a peach pit...I mean right on top of one.
My favorite excuse from these idiots is that this is affecting a small number of people, a small segment of the market. Compare it to the number of uninsureds Obamacare was supposed to take under its wing, and the number who will still be uninsured after Obamacare is fully implemented. Ocare was supposed to solve a crisis of big numbers, but the number of those affected negatively are---according to the administration and its apologists-- "small"...[B]Except when you compare those numbers.[/B]
[url]http://blog.heritage.org/2012/04/01/chart-of-the-week-estimated-loss-of-health-coverage-under-obamacare/[/url]
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cbo-obamacare-will-leave-30-million-uninsured[/url]
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/10/24/estimate-16-million-americans-will-lose-current-coverage-because-of-obamacare-n1731700[/url]
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/millions-americans-are-losing-their-health-plans-because-obamacare_764602.html[/url]
[B]Liars, statists, incompetents and douchebags. Pick any three.[/B]
If you need an excuse to throw a rock or an arrow through your TV, watch one of several recent aggressive interviews with Rahm Emanuel's brother, Dr. Ezekial Emanuel, one of the chief architects of Obamacare. An unadulterated ideologue and possibly one of the most obnoxious people ever, defending the indefensible:
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/videos#p/86913/v/2800556045001[/url]
Obviously, the usual suspects in the media are a little late with their discovery. Matthews looked like he was sitting on a peach pit...I mean right on top of one.
My favorite excuse from these idiots is that this is affecting a small number of people, a small segment of the market. Compare it to the number of uninsureds Obamacare was supposed to take under its wing, and the number who will still be uninsured after Obamacare is fully implemented. Ocare was supposed to solve a crisis of big numbers, but the number of those affected negatively are---according to the administration and its apologists-- "small"...[B]Except when you compare those numbers.[/B]
[url]http://blog.heritage.org/2012/04/01/chart-of-the-week-estimated-loss-of-health-coverage-under-obamacare/[/url]
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cbo-obamacare-will-leave-30-million-uninsured[/url]
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/10/24/estimate-16-million-americans-will-lose-current-coverage-because-of-obamacare-n1731700[/url]
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/millions-americans-are-losing-their-health-plans-because-obamacare_764602.html[/url]
[B]Liars, statists, incompetents and douchebags. Pick any three.[/B]
If you need an excuse to throw a rock or an arrow through your TV, watch one of several recent aggressive interviews with Rahm Emanuel's brother, Dr. Ezekial Emanuel, one of the chief architects of Obamacare. An unadulterated ideologue and possibly one of the most obnoxious people ever, defending the indefensible:
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/videos#p/86913/v/2800556045001[/url]
30.) DParker - 11/06/2013
Personally, my favorite excuse has been...
[INDENT][I]"Yeah, it was a lie. But that's OK because it was for your own good. We know what's best for you and you're just too stupid to be allowed to make decisions for yourself."[/I][/INDENT]
I'm paraphrasing a little :wink , but that's the gist of it.
[INDENT][I]"Yeah, it was a lie. But that's OK because it was for your own good. We know what's best for you and you're just too stupid to be allowed to make decisions for yourself."[/I][/INDENT]
I'm paraphrasing a little :wink , but that's the gist of it.
31.) bluecat - 11/08/2013
Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”
That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.
[B]Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”[/B]
“This says that when they made the promise, they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” said Robert Laszewski, of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, a consultant who works for health industry firms. Laszewski estimates that 80 percent of those in the individual market will not be able to keep their current policies and will have to buy insurance that meets requirements of the new law, which generally requires a richer package of benefits than most policies today.
[url]http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance[/url]
That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.
[B]Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”[/B]
“This says that when they made the promise, they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” said Robert Laszewski, of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, a consultant who works for health industry firms. Laszewski estimates that 80 percent of those in the individual market will not be able to keep their current policies and will have to buy insurance that meets requirements of the new law, which generally requires a richer package of benefits than most policies today.
[url]http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance[/url]
32.) DParker - 11/12/2013
Just to put a little graphical perspective on things....
33.) bluecat - 11/13/2013
:laugh:
Now are those 49,100, people who purchased or just put stuff in their cart and then aborted?
Now are those 49,100, people who purchased or just put stuff in their cart and then aborted?
34.) bluecat - 11/13/2013
"[B]Believe it or not, the enrollment data from the federal government may actually exaggerate the number of people who have signed up.[/B] "
(The Hell you say)
“The number represents enrollment date sent to insurers from the marketplace,” but counts “data sent to insurers from the marketplace.”
"One official told Amy Goldstein and Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post that “the official figure will include people who have paid for a plan [B]and those who simply picked a plan and put it in their shopping cart. [/B]"
”[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/11/12/the-obamacare-exchange-scorecard-around-100000-enrollees-and-five-million-cancellations/[/url]
(The Hell you say)
“The number represents enrollment date sent to insurers from the marketplace,” but counts “data sent to insurers from the marketplace.”
"One official told Amy Goldstein and Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post that “the official figure will include people who have paid for a plan [B]and those who simply picked a plan and put it in their shopping cart. [/B]"
”[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/11/12/the-obamacare-exchange-scorecard-around-100000-enrollees-and-five-million-cancellations/[/url]
35.) DParker - 11/13/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;12429]:laugh:
Now are those 49,100, people who purchased or just put stuff in their cart and then aborted?[/QUOTE]
I'm betting they were the 49,100 people who were able to logon to the site without throwing their PC through the nearest window in a fit of rage.
Now are those 49,100, people who purchased or just put stuff in their cart and then aborted?[/QUOTE]
I'm betting they were the 49,100 people who were able to logon to the site without throwing their PC through the nearest window in a fit of rage.
36.) bluecat - 11/14/2013
After repeatedly criticizing senators such as Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) over their crusade to defund Obamacare, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called for the “total repeal” of the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday. It’s a quick turnaround after the longtime senator, in September, proclaimed that it was “not rational” to think Obamacare could be defunded or repealed.
[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/13/sen-john-mccains-stunning-flip-flop-on-total-repeal-of-obamacare-watch-the-before-and-after/[/url]
I think I have the perfect Christmas gift for Mr. Crusty. Flip Flops.
[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/13/sen-john-mccains-stunning-flip-flop-on-total-repeal-of-obamacare-watch-the-before-and-after/[/url]
I think I have the perfect Christmas gift for Mr. Crusty. Flip Flops.
37.) bluecat - 11/14/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;12444]I'm betting they were the 49,100 people who were able to logon to the site without throwing their PC through the nearest window in a fit of rage.[/QUOTE]
[B]Obamacare rollout numbers much worse than expected[/B]
And only 26,794 of those people went through HealthCare.gov site, the tech-troubled federal marketplace selling privately issued insurance to residents of the 36 states not running their own health exchange.
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/id/101195897[/url]
[B]Obamacare rollout numbers much worse than expected[/B]
And only 26,794 of those people went through HealthCare.gov site, the tech-troubled federal marketplace selling privately issued insurance to residents of the 36 states not running their own health exchange.
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/id/101195897[/url]
38.) DParker - 11/14/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;12462]After repeatedly criticizing senators such as Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) over their crusade to defund Obamacare, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called for the “total repeal” of the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday. It’s a quick turnaround after the longtime senator, in September, proclaimed that it was “not rational” to think Obamacare could be defunded or repealed.
[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/13/sen-john-mccains-stunning-flip-flop-on-total-repeal-of-obamacare-watch-the-before-and-after/[/url]
I think I have the perfect Christmas gift for Mr. Crusty. Flip Flops.[/QUOTE]
I'm issuing a call for McCain to be repealed.
[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/13/sen-john-mccains-stunning-flip-flop-on-total-repeal-of-obamacare-watch-the-before-and-after/[/url]
I think I have the perfect Christmas gift for Mr. Crusty. Flip Flops.[/QUOTE]
I'm issuing a call for McCain to be repealed.
39.) Swamp Fox - 11/15/2013
McCain underestimated the power of the people who are finally going to pay attention...
But he's a maverick, so it's okay.
On the other hand, it's Obama's major achievement, so repeal needs a different lay of the land from what we have now.
Have you noticed that a few months ago, Obama was puffing out his chest, defiantly embracing the term "Obamacare"....and now he's back to calling it the Affordable Care Act...:re:
Don't get me started on his "fix" to allow cancelled plans to be renewed/reissued...
He's so full of shit his eyes are brown, as we used to say.
But he's a maverick, so it's okay.
On the other hand, it's Obama's major achievement, so repeal needs a different lay of the land from what we have now.
Have you noticed that a few months ago, Obama was puffing out his chest, defiantly embracing the term "Obamacare"....and now he's back to calling it the Affordable Care Act...:re:
Don't get me started on his "fix" to allow cancelled plans to be renewed/reissued...
He's so full of shit his eyes are brown, as we used to say.
40.) bluecat - 11/15/2013
Now as a programmer, DP can tell you the insurance companies always have a hidden button somewhere that undeletes all files and transactions from months ago and reinstates everything back to present-day status.
So no worries.
So no worries.
41.) bluecat - 11/15/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;12465]I'm issuing a call for McCain to be repealed.[/QUOTE]
I second that emotion.
I second that emotion.
42.) DParker - 11/15/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;12474]Now as a programmer, DP can tell you the insurance companies always have a hidden button somewhere that undeletes all files and transactions from months ago and reinstates everything back to present-day status.
So no worries.[/QUOTE]
If you knew what I know about how much virtual spit, bubble gum and baling wire is holding together most major data processing systems......
So no worries.[/QUOTE]
If you knew what I know about how much virtual spit, bubble gum and baling wire is holding together most major data processing systems......
43.) bluecat - 11/15/2013
Yep, just don't visit the sausage factories.
44.) DParker - 12/03/2013
[URL="http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225308"]CNBC: No security ever built into Obamacare site[/URL]
45.) Swamp Fox - 12/03/2013
Why would you need security for a website?
It's not like it's a consulate in the middle of Injun country or anything...
Oh, wait...
:re:
It's not like it's a consulate in the middle of Injun country or anything...
Oh, wait...
:re:
46.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
Prelude to Disaster: JUST 1 Private Meeting Between Sebelius, Obama in 3-Plus Years Leading Up to ObamaCare Launch?
[url]http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/12/05/prelude-disaster-just-1-private-meeting-between-sebelius-obama-3-plus-years-leading[/url]
Why would you want to meet with someone in charge of the programming team? :cf:
[url]http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/12/05/prelude-disaster-just-1-private-meeting-between-sebelius-obama-3-plus-years-leading[/url]
Why would you want to meet with someone in charge of the programming team? :cf:
47.) Swamp Fox - 12/05/2013
I'm not sure that, even now, most Americans realize how outrageously Obamacare has been bungled, much less how bad and unworkable an idea it is. I hope they wake up soon.
It sounds like the Obamanos blew right past the first-, second- and third-string web designers and started out of the gate with some tech-savvy middle-schoolers. It's all about the children, I guess:
[I][B]Bye-Bye, Privacy
The other problem with HealthCare.gov. [/B][/I]
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/bye-bye-privacy_766432.html[/url]
:jd:
It sounds like the Obamanos blew right past the first-, second- and third-string web designers and started out of the gate with some tech-savvy middle-schoolers. It's all about the children, I guess:
[I][B]Bye-Bye, Privacy
The other problem with HealthCare.gov. [/B][/I]
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/bye-bye-privacy_766432.html[/url]
:jd:
48.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come. I heard yesterday that they estimated that only 10% of policy holders will pay lower premiums.
49.) Swamp Fox - 12/05/2013
But Medicaid sign-ups are going gang-busters...
There's a line I read recently (it may be in the article I linked above) that said that if Obama had sold vacuum cleaners the way he sold Obamacare, he'd be up on fraud charges.
Exactly right. If he were an insurance agent, he'd be up on fraud charges, fired, and getting sued.
There's a line I read recently (it may be in the article I linked above) that said that if Obama had sold vacuum cleaners the way he sold Obamacare, he'd be up on fraud charges.
Exactly right. If he were an insurance agent, he'd be up on fraud charges, fired, and getting sued.
50.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
Obamacare: You're not insured until you pay
[url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-youre-not-insured-until-you-pay/[/url]
"I did just now."
"No you didn't."
"I did, I most certainly did."
"If you paid why aren't you insured?"
"But I did pay."
"No you haven't."
[url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-youre-not-insured-until-you-pay/[/url]
"I did just now."
"No you didn't."
"I did, I most certainly did."
"If you paid why aren't you insured?"
"But I did pay."
"No you haven't."
51.) Swamp Fox - 12/05/2013
Obama discovers source of Obamacare SNAFU:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url]
Obama forced to fire someone:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-forced-fire-familiar-friend_766427.html#[/url]
Poor Bagdad Bob...er...I mean Jivin' Jay:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/and-obamacarrier-pigeons-will-deliver-subsidies_764711.html[/url]
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url]
Obama forced to fire someone:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-forced-fire-familiar-friend_766427.html#[/url]
Poor Bagdad Bob...er...I mean Jivin' Jay:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/and-obamacarrier-pigeons-will-deliver-subsidies_764711.html[/url]
52.) DParker - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;13251]Obamacare: You're not insured until you pay
[url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-youre-not-insured-until-you-pay/[/url]
"I did just now."
"No you didn't."
"I did, I most certainly did."
"If you paid why aren't you insured?"
"But I did pay."
"No you haven't."[/QUOTE]
I could be selling healthcare insurance policies in my spare time.
[url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-youre-not-insured-until-you-pay/[/url]
"I did just now."
"No you didn't."
"I did, I most certainly did."
"If you paid why aren't you insured?"
"But I did pay."
"No you haven't."[/QUOTE]
I could be selling healthcare insurance policies in my spare time.
53.) DParker - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;13257]Obama discovers source of Obamacare SNAFU:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url][/quote]
Liechtenstein is the Rodney Dangerfield of Europe. It never gets any respect.
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url][/quote]
Liechtenstein is the Rodney Dangerfield of Europe. It never gets any respect.
54.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;13263]Liechtenstein is the Rodney Dangerfield of Europe. It never gets any respect.[/QUOTE]
:laugh:
:laugh:
55.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;13257]Obama discovers source of Obamacare SNAFU:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url]
Obama forced to fire someone:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-forced-fire-familiar-friend_766427.html#[/url]
Poor Bagdad Bob...er...I mean Jivin' Jay:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/and-obamacarrier-pigeons-will-deliver-subsidies_764711.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That's good stuff SwampGiggle.
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/clueless-commander-chief_765690.html#[/url]
Obama forced to fire someone:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-forced-fire-familiar-friend_766427.html#[/url]
Poor Bagdad Bob...er...I mean Jivin' Jay:
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/and-obamacarrier-pigeons-will-deliver-subsidies_764711.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That's good stuff SwampGiggle.
56.) bluecat - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;13263]Liechtenstein is the Rodney Dangerfield of Europe. It never gets any respect.[/QUOTE]
Kinda reminds me of the straight guy who finds out his friend is gay. And the gay friend assures the straight man that he isn't attracted to him so no worries. Then the straight guy feels all let down and self-conscious that his gay friend doesn't find him attractive.
Kinda reminds me of the straight guy who finds out his friend is gay. And the gay friend assures the straight man that he isn't attracted to him so no worries. Then the straight guy feels all let down and self-conscious that his gay friend doesn't find him attractive.
57.) Swamp Fox - 12/05/2013
His next move: he macrames himself a pair of jeans shorts...
:p
:p
58.) DParker - 12/05/2013
[URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365559/roll-dice-john-fund"]More people sign up for on-line gambling than Obamacare in New Jersey[/URL]
59.) DParker - 12/05/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;13273]His next move: he macrames himself a pair of jeans shorts...[/quote]
I feel quite safe in presuming that I speak for most here when I say:
Ewwwwwwwwwww!!!
I feel quite safe in presuming that I speak for most here when I say:
Ewwwwwwwwwww!!!
60.) DParker - 12/13/2013
For those who like to cite "fact-checking" websites based on the assumption that they're run by individuals who should be relied on as knowledgeable, unbiased arbiters of what the truth is, here's what PolitiFact said in 2008 regarding the President's now infamous, "If you like your health plan you can keep it" claim:
In spite of the law not having changed in that regard since PolitiFact declared the claim to be "TRUE", they've now awarded the claim their "Lie of the Year" title:
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/[/url]
Addition complete reversals PolitiFact has done on the matter:
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/nov/06/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-what-hed-said-was-you-could-keep/[/url]
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/oct/30/valerie-jarrett/valerie-jarrett-says-nothing-obamacare-forces-peop/[/url]
The moral of the story is that you need to do your own fact-checking.
In spite of the law not having changed in that regard since PolitiFact declared the claim to be "TRUE", they've now awarded the claim their "Lie of the Year" title:
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/[/url]
Addition complete reversals PolitiFact has done on the matter:
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/nov/06/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-what-hed-said-was-you-could-keep/[/url]
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/oct/30/valerie-jarrett/valerie-jarrett-says-nothing-obamacare-forces-peop/[/url]
The moral of the story is that you need to do your own fact-checking.
61.) bluecat - 12/13/2013
Maybe when he made that statement (37 times) that he was hallucinating and seeing angels.
62.) Swamp Fox - 12/17/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;13585]Maybe when he made that statement (37 times) that he was hallucinating and seeing angels.[/QUOTE]
People keep telling me weed is a lot more powerful than back in the day...
Obama has always been an innovater, so it's no surprise he felt qualified to re-make our entire health care and health insurance industries...
[I]Maraniss portrays the teenage Obama as not just a pot smoker, but a pot-smoking innovator.
“As a member of the Choom Gang,” Maraniss writes, “Barry Obama was known for starting a few pot-smoking trends.”
The first Obama-inspired trend: “Total Absorption” or “TA”.
“TA was the opposite of Bill Clinton’s claim that as a Rhodes scholar at Oxford he smoked dope but never inhaled,” explains Maraniss. Here’s how it worked: If you exhaled prematurely when you were with the Choom Gang, “you were assessed a penalty and your turn was skipped the next time the joint came around.”
As one of Obama’s old high school buddies tells Maraniss: “Wasting good bud smoke was not tolerated.”
Another Obama innovation: “Roof Hits.”
“When they were chooming in a car all the windows had to be rolled up so no smoke blew out and went to waste; when the pot was gone, they tilted their heads back and sucked in the last bit of smoke from the ceiling.”
Maraniss also says Obama was known for his “Interceptions”: “When a joint was making the rounds, he often elbowed his way in, out of turn, shouted ‘Intercepted!,’ and took an extra hit.”[/I]
Who says you can't predict the future?...
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-and-his-pot-smoking-choom-gang/[/url]
People keep telling me weed is a lot more powerful than back in the day...
Obama has always been an innovater, so it's no surprise he felt qualified to re-make our entire health care and health insurance industries...
[I]Maraniss portrays the teenage Obama as not just a pot smoker, but a pot-smoking innovator.
“As a member of the Choom Gang,” Maraniss writes, “Barry Obama was known for starting a few pot-smoking trends.”
The first Obama-inspired trend: “Total Absorption” or “TA”.
“TA was the opposite of Bill Clinton’s claim that as a Rhodes scholar at Oxford he smoked dope but never inhaled,” explains Maraniss. Here’s how it worked: If you exhaled prematurely when you were with the Choom Gang, “you were assessed a penalty and your turn was skipped the next time the joint came around.”
As one of Obama’s old high school buddies tells Maraniss: “Wasting good bud smoke was not tolerated.”
Another Obama innovation: “Roof Hits.”
“When they were chooming in a car all the windows had to be rolled up so no smoke blew out and went to waste; when the pot was gone, they tilted their heads back and sucked in the last bit of smoke from the ceiling.”
Maraniss also says Obama was known for his “Interceptions”: “When a joint was making the rounds, he often elbowed his way in, out of turn, shouted ‘Intercepted!,’ and took an extra hit.”[/I]
Who says you can't predict the future?...
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-and-his-pot-smoking-choom-gang/[/url]
63.) bluecat - 12/17/2013
I didn't realize he was a pothead too.
I was referring to the sign language interpreter at the Mandela funeral who was seeing angels at the time. Our security should be commended though for...for...never mind.
I was referring to the sign language interpreter at the Mandela funeral who was seeing angels at the time. Our security should be commended though for...for...never mind.
64.) Swamp Fox - 12/17/2013
If he hadn't killed someone, he could be be a U.S. Senator... from Massachusetts, maybe...
Oh, wait...
Oh, wait...
65.) DParker - 12/18/2013
What a great segue for this:
[url]http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/obamacare-now-we-know-what-happened-those-who-took-bad-acid-woodstock?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO[/url]
[QUOTE=bluecat;13656]I didn't realize he was a pothead too.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/obamacare-now-we-know-what-happened-those-who-took-bad-acid-woodstock?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO[/url]
[QUOTE=bluecat;13656]I didn't realize he was a pothead too.[/QUOTE]
66.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2013
LOL...
Just in time for Christmas, the soundtrack [I]Obamacare--Up In Smoke[/I] is available in Dolby Stereo here, Posts 102-120:
[url]http://forums.huntingcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?299-Friday-music-vids/page11&highlight=music+video[/url]
Enjoy it with some brownies...
Just in time for Christmas, the soundtrack [I]Obamacare--Up In Smoke[/I] is available in Dolby Stereo here, Posts 102-120:
[url]http://forums.huntingcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?299-Friday-music-vids/page11&highlight=music+video[/url]
Enjoy it with some brownies...
67.) bluecat - 12/18/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;13660]If he hadn't killed someone, he could be be a U.S. Senator... from Massachusetts, maybe...
Oh, wait...
[/QUOTE]
I don't find the humor. Obama is saying our government leaders have gone to the dogs.
Oh, wait...
[/QUOTE]I don't find the humor. Obama is saying our government leaders have gone to the dogs.
68.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2013
I'm thinking I might see if that thing will work as my signature line...LOL
Think of the captions you could give it:
"President Obama Explains His Foreign Policy"
"Obama Presents Awards to Returning Combat Veterans"
"President Details Benefits of Obamacare---Again"
"Obama to Sebelius at Community College Rally: 'Let's Do a Tech Surge' "
"Obama at U.S. Economic Summit: More Jobs Saved or Created"
"Obama Reveals More Aggressive Attitude to Islamic Extremism in Speech at Berkley"
"After British Fiasco, Obama Ups His Game on Gifts to World Leaders"
"Obama Speaking Tour Will Focus on His Days Off The Golf Course"
Shall I go on? :wink:grin::wink
Think of the captions you could give it:
"President Obama Explains His Foreign Policy"
"Obama Presents Awards to Returning Combat Veterans"
"President Details Benefits of Obamacare---Again"
"Obama to Sebelius at Community College Rally: 'Let's Do a Tech Surge' "
"Obama at U.S. Economic Summit: More Jobs Saved or Created"
"Obama Reveals More Aggressive Attitude to Islamic Extremism in Speech at Berkley"
"After British Fiasco, Obama Ups His Game on Gifts to World Leaders"
"Obama Speaking Tour Will Focus on His Days Off The Golf Course"
Shall I go on? :wink:grin::wink
69.) bluecat - 12/19/2013
Good ones Swample.
"If you like your balloon animal you can keep your balloon animal."
"If you like your balloon animal you can keep your balloon animal."
70.) DParker - 12/19/2013
I'm just wondering if the guy also does kids' birthday parties.
71.) Swamp Fox - 12/19/2013
Well, yes, but there's a lot of extra cost and hassle if there are more than 50 kids there, or if any of them act like kids more than 30 hours a week.
72.) Swamp Fox - 12/19/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;13784]Good ones Swample.
"If you like your balloon animal you can keep your balloon animal."[/QUOTE]
LOL...
Wish I could find video of the Prez on his sales call where he said "This is good stuff." Quote, unquote.
Ever had someone try to sell you something so bad you could tell it was bad just by the way he told you how good it was? I was embarrassed for him.
Some good nuggets here: :wink
[url]http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/some-good-stuff-about-obamacare/[/url]
"If you like your balloon animal you can keep your balloon animal."[/QUOTE]
LOL...
Wish I could find video of the Prez on his sales call where he said "This is good stuff." Quote, unquote.
Ever had someone try to sell you something so bad you could tell it was bad just by the way he told you how good it was? I was embarrassed for him.
Some good nuggets here: :wink
[url]http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/some-good-stuff-about-obamacare/[/url]
73.) bluecat - 12/19/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;13796]LOL...
Wish I could find video of the Prez on his sales call where he said "This is good stuff." Quote, unquote.
Ever had someone try to sell you something so bad you could tell it was bad just by the way he told you how good it was? I was embarrassed for him.
Some good nuggets here: :wink
[url]http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/some-good-stuff-about-obamacare/[/url][/QUOTE]
I remember him saying that and yes it [B]was[/B] embarrassing. He reminds me of a carnival barker.
Anytime Sebelius speaks, I pretty much know it's an outright lie.
Wish I could find video of the Prez on his sales call where he said "This is good stuff." Quote, unquote.
Ever had someone try to sell you something so bad you could tell it was bad just by the way he told you how good it was? I was embarrassed for him.
Some good nuggets here: :wink
[url]http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/some-good-stuff-about-obamacare/[/url][/QUOTE]
I remember him saying that and yes it [B]was[/B] embarrassing. He reminds me of a carnival barker.
Anytime Sebelius speaks, I pretty much know it's an outright lie.