1.) Deerslayer88 - 10/03/2013

I have a small ozone generator for mold. Since the introduction of ozonics I have always wondered if my small ozone generator would work for hunting. From what i gathered ozonics doesnt emit the ozone odor where as all other ozone generators do. Has anyone had any experience with these cheaper ozone generators and if deer get spooked from the ozone odor. I would think that they dont since in my opinion deer would not be able to associate the odor with human scent.

2.) Deerslayer88 - 10/03/2013

I should also have said that i am going to try it this weekend so i will have some input on the matter in a few days.

3.) DParker - 10/03/2013

There's just about no way for it to do any significant good in a hunting scenario. You're also playing with health risks if you inhale the ozone. There have been many threads on this with all of the details over on "the dark side" (AT), so I won't try to regurgitate all of the info here.

Also...the odor of ozone is caused by its chemical structure. That odor is an inherent property of the molecule. The only way to not emit an ozone odor is to not emit ozone.

4.) Ventilator - 10/03/2013

When the knowledgable Dp speaks, people listen. :)

sounds correct to me wise one!:tu:

5.) DParker - 10/03/2013

Wisdom? Nah. Just high school chemistry.

6.) Dan-o - 10/03/2013

I believe one can use an ozone generator to remove stink from their gear in a static environment, like a tote, but I don't buy the ozonics rubbish. No way.

7.) Pa bowhunter - 10/03/2013

I specialized in fire and disaster restoration for about 10 years and we used ozone machines a lot to deal with smoke odors in homes that where not complete burn outs and the size of our average machine we would use per room was around 30" long by 20" wide by 30"tall and it would normally run in a closed area for about 5-7 days, so it would be a stretch for me to believe that a machine the size of the ozonics in an open air environment would or could work..

8.) Deerslayer88 - 10/07/2013

Yeah i scratched the idea of using it in the field, but it did seem to work for placing the generator in a tote and allowing it to run over night. Of course as soon as I opened the tote and took my cloths and boots out there was a strong ozone odor, but after placing them outside for 10 min the smell was completely gone. Now I know I cant smell as good as deer so dont judge me on the previous statement lol. But after the weekend and having multiple deer come directly downwind of me, I like the results I have achieved with the ozone generator up to this point. I will cont. to use it for the upcoming weeks to determine if it could be a viable tool to use in order to fool a deers sense of smell.

9.) Deerslayer88 - 10/07/2013

Tell me if im wrong but the way i understand it is....Ozone is O3 where as oxygen is O2. Now obviously O2 is a stable molecule where as O3 is very unstable. The instability of O3 is what causes it to basically donate its third hydrogen molecule to lets say odor causing bacteria. This is what destroys scent i.e. human odor, smoke, pet odor, etc...by changing the molecular structure of the odor. Basic chemistry also states that odor is caused by the shape and structure of a molecule. SO as soon as you change the structure of the molecule the odor is eliminated. This is why the ozone smell is eliminated soon after the generator is turned off. Once again tell me if im wrong in the way I understand how ozone works.

10.) DParker - 10/08/2013

[QUOTE=Deerslayer88;11551]Tell me if im wrong but the way i understand it is....Ozone is O3 where as oxygen is O2. Now obviously O2 is a stable molecule where as O3 is very unstable. The instability of O3 is what causes it to basically donate its third hydrogen molecule to lets say odor causing bacteria. This is what destroys scent i.e. human odor, smoke, pet odor, etc...by changing the molecular structure of the odor. Basic chemistry also states that odor is caused by the shape and structure of a molecule. SO as soon as you change the structure of the molecule the odor is eliminated. This is why the ozone smell is eliminated soon after the generator is turned off. Once again tell me if im wrong in the way I understand how ozone works.[/QUOTE]

You've got the basic idea, except that ozone reacts by giving up its extra oxygen atom, not hydrogen molecule (O2 and O3 are both molecular forms of oxygen, O3 = 3 atoms of oxygen). And it actually kills bacteria and other microorganisms by breaking down their cell walls. The same property that makes ozone such an effective odor fighter. ..its high propensity for reacting with other molecules...also makes it hazardous to your health when you inhale it.

11.) Deerslayer88 - 10/08/2013

[QUOTE=DParker;11567]You've got the basic idea, except that ozone reacts by giving up its extra oxygen atom, not hydrogen molecule (O2 and O3 are both molecular forms of oxygen, O3 = 3 atoms of oxygen). And it actually kills bacteria and other microorganisms by breaking down their cell walls. The same property that makes ozone such an effective odor fighter. ..its high propensity for reacting with other molecules...also makes it hazardous to your health when you inhale it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i meant to say oxygen dont know why i said hydorgen lol.