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1.) DParker - 06/12/2013
Specifically, sights using tritium, fiber optics...or a combination of both (like the TruGlo T.F.O.s). Anyone using them? If so, what do you think about the ones you have? I'm thinking about replacing the factory white dots on my M&P9, and would really like go with something easier to see under low-light conditions.
2.) Forkie McRut - 06/13/2013
Hi DP,
I have the tritium sights on my Springfield XDM. They are a definite improvement over the white dots that come on the M&P. They glow, but they aren't overpowering or as bright as the fiber optics sights.
The fiber sights I am comparing them to are the ones I have on my shotguns, but I doubt there is much difference in brightness.
I have the tritium sights on my Springfield XDM. They are a definite improvement over the white dots that come on the M&P. They glow, but they aren't overpowering or as bright as the fiber optics sights.
The fiber sights I am comparing them to are the ones I have on my shotguns, but I doubt there is much difference in brightness.
3.) DParker - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=Forkie McRut;6737]Hi DP,
I have the tritium sights on my Springfield XDM. They are a definite improvement over the white dots that come on the M&P. They glow, but they aren't overpowering or as bright as the fiber optics sights.
The fiber sights I am comparing them to are the ones I have on my shotguns, but I doubt there is much difference in brightness.[/QUOTE]
Which make/model of tritium sights do you have on your XDM?
I have the tritium sights on my Springfield XDM. They are a definite improvement over the white dots that come on the M&P. They glow, but they aren't overpowering or as bright as the fiber optics sights.
The fiber sights I am comparing them to are the ones I have on my shotguns, but I doubt there is much difference in brightness.[/QUOTE]
Which make/model of tritium sights do you have on your XDM?
4.) BULLZ-i - 06/13/2013
[B]" LASER "[/B]
5.) DParker - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;6740][B]" LASER "[/B][/QUOTE]
That's on my shopping list as well, but as an addition to...not a substitute for...improved iron sights.
That's on my shopping list as well, but as an addition to...not a substitute for...improved iron sights.
6.) Swamp Fox - 06/13/2013
Tritium all the way. You can't see fiber optic if there is minimal light so all you're doing is pointing the muzzle and we all know how well that works. I can take tritium sights and fiber optic sights side-by side down the unlit hallway to my bathroom and the fiber optics are out before the hallway is dark. In fact, it's scary how quickly they go. I can see my tritium sights in pitch black with doors closed and no windows.
7.) DParker - 06/13/2013
Same question to you then, Swampmeister. Which company's sights do you have? How long have they lasted (so far) without the tritium dimming significantly?
8.) Swamp Fox - 06/13/2013
I'd say I've had them between four and six years, and six is probably stretching it. I don't notice any dimming at this point, or if there has been any it is not significant enough to reduce the "pitch black effectiveness."
I am almost positive they are Meprolights.
I am almost positive they are Meprolights.
9.) DParker - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;6748]I'd say I've had them between four and six years, and six is probably stretching it. I don't notice any dimming at this point, or if there has been any it is not significant enough to reduce the "pitch black effectiveness."
I am almost positive they are Meprolights.[/QUOTE]
Cool...thanks. What color(s) did you go with? I really like the idea of an orange front sight with green or yellow rear dots for maximum contrast, but my understanding is that the orange lamps generally yield less than half the effective lifetime of green or yellow. For instance, Trijicon's warranty guarantees the life of their green and yellow lamps for 12 years, but the orange ones for only 5. Since it's a warranty I presume they're erring a little on the conservative side and one could probably expect a little more life than those two numbers, but I'd still hate to have to replace the front sight - or send in my carry piece (or even just the slide) to someone for tritium lamp replacement - every 5 or 6 years. 12-13 years I can live with though.
I am almost positive they are Meprolights.[/QUOTE]
Cool...thanks. What color(s) did you go with? I really like the idea of an orange front sight with green or yellow rear dots for maximum contrast, but my understanding is that the orange lamps generally yield less than half the effective lifetime of green or yellow. For instance, Trijicon's warranty guarantees the life of their green and yellow lamps for 12 years, but the orange ones for only 5. Since it's a warranty I presume they're erring a little on the conservative side and one could probably expect a little more life than those two numbers, but I'd still hate to have to replace the front sight - or send in my carry piece (or even just the slide) to someone for tritium lamp replacement - every 5 or 6 years. 12-13 years I can live with though.
10.) Swamp Fox - 06/13/2013
Mine are a green front with yellow rear. When I bought mine, I don't recall seeing a lot of choices, but I could be wrong. It's possible I used those two colors by design, because if orange was available I would have preferred yellow and green from my experience shooting all three colors on bow sights. I don't recall noting a big difference in warranty at the time, but I do know I was kinda focused on a "ten-year life" (which is what sticks in my head at this point) and hoped I wouldn't regret the choice of a sight that needed some maintenance at that point.
They just have so much more oomph than fiber optics, though, that they were worth the investment. (Besides the fact that I have broken FOs before.)
They just have so much more oomph than fiber optics, though, that they were worth the investment. (Besides the fact that I have broken FOs before.)
11.) CHRIS - 06/13/2013
Earlier this year I put a set of Truglo Brite Site TFO Tritium sights on a friends Glock 23, so far he loves them, he opted for the green front and yellow rear.
12.) Forkie McRut - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;6739]Which make/model of tritium sights do you have on your XDM?[/QUOTE]
Not sure DP. I will have to check tonight. They came installed on the XDM when I bought it. Wanna say Trijicon, but need to confirm.
Not sure DP. I will have to check tonight. They came installed on the XDM when I bought it. Wanna say Trijicon, but need to confirm.
13.) DParker - 06/13/2013
I should have included in my OP that I'm also trying to improve the consistency (and therefor accuracy) of my general sight picture as well, regardless of lighting conditions. IMHO the visual gaps between between the front dot and the two rear ones is excessive, making it more difficult to get consistent horizontal alignment between them. To that end I [I]really[/I] like the "pyramid" concept implemented by these two manufacturers:
[URL="http://www.suresight.com/"]http://www.suresight.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.advantagetactical.com/"]http://www.advantagetactical.com/[/URL]
As aeshetically goofy as they might look, they seem to me like they would be a vast improvment over more conventional notch-and-post sights in terms of quicker, more consistent alignment along both the horizontal AND vertical axis. But alas, in spite of their flourescent colors they don't offer enough in the way of visibility enhancement in low/no light.
[URL="http://www.suresight.com/"]http://www.suresight.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.advantagetactical.com/"]http://www.advantagetactical.com/[/URL]
As aeshetically goofy as they might look, they seem to me like they would be a vast improvment over more conventional notch-and-post sights in terms of quicker, more consistent alignment along both the horizontal AND vertical axis. But alas, in spite of their flourescent colors they don't offer enough in the way of visibility enhancement in low/no light.
14.) DParker - 06/13/2013
OK, so it appears that SureSight actually offered a tritium version of their pyramid-style sight. I say "offer[B]ed[/B]" (past tense) because it also appears that they're no longer in business. Bummer.
15.) BULLZ-i - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;6740][B]" LASER "[/B][/QUOTE]
I WAS SPEAKING IN THE AUSTIN POWERS ASPECT, BUT CT GRIPS ARE NICE. HAVE THEM ON MY KIMBER ULTRA COVERT. THEY ARE THERE IF I NEED EM, BUT DONT REGULARLY HAVE THEM ON.
I WAS SPEAKING IN THE AUSTIN POWERS ASPECT, BUT CT GRIPS ARE NICE. HAVE THEM ON MY KIMBER ULTRA COVERT. THEY ARE THERE IF I NEED EM, BUT DONT REGULARLY HAVE THEM ON.
16.) DParker - 06/13/2013
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;6782]I WAS SPEAKING IN THE AUSTIN POWERS ASPECT[/quote]
Yeah...but who needs to lug a shark around?
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;6782], BUT CT GRIPS ARE NICE. HAVE THEM ON MY KIMBER ULTRA COVERT. THEY ARE THERE IF I NEED EM, BUT DONT REGULARLY HAVE THEM ON.[/QUOTE]
If I do mount a laser, CT is what I'll go with. They're pricey, but really the most practical solution for a concealed carry piece.
Yeah...but who needs to lug a shark around?
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;6782], BUT CT GRIPS ARE NICE. HAVE THEM ON MY KIMBER ULTRA COVERT. THEY ARE THERE IF I NEED EM, BUT DONT REGULARLY HAVE THEM ON.[/QUOTE]
If I do mount a laser, CT is what I'll go with. They're pricey, but really the most practical solution for a concealed carry piece.