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1.) bluecat - 05/13/2013
Washington (CNN) -- The Internal Revenue Service targeted other groups focused on government spending and the federal debt that were seeking tax-exempt status, in addition to tea party organizations, documents set to be released this week by the agency's watchdog show.
The IRS also applied extra scrutiny to applicants with statements that "criticize how the country is run" or that sought to educate the public on how to "[B]make America a better place to live"[/B] --
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/politics/irs-conservative-targeting/index.html[/url]
The IRS also applied extra scrutiny to applicants with statements that "criticize how the country is run" or that sought to educate the public on how to "[B]make America a better place to live"[/B] --
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/politics/irs-conservative-targeting/index.html[/url]
2.) bluecat - 05/16/2013
Well now it comes out that the tea partiers and any group wanting tax exempt status with "tea party" or "patriot" in their name were targeted 100%.
Then it comes out that supporters of Mitt Romney were also targeted.
Obama said he knew nothing about it.
Mmm, does this guy keep up on anything, Fast and Furious, Benghazzi, IRS?
Then it comes out that supporters of Mitt Romney were also targeted.
Obama said he knew nothing about it.
Mmm, does this guy keep up on anything, Fast and Furious, Benghazzi, IRS?
3.) DParker - 05/16/2013
I listened to Holder's testimony streamed live yesterday. It has now gotten to the point that I can no longer hear him, Hillary Clinton, Jay Carney or the President speak without hearing this....
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video]
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video]
4.) Hunter - 05/16/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;6039]I listened to Holder's testimony streamed live yesterday. It has now gotten to the point that I can no longer hear him, Hillary Clinton, Jay Carney or the President speak without hearing this....
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video][/QUOTE]
EXACTLY!! :bang:
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video][/QUOTE]
EXACTLY!! :bang:
5.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
Live Feed
[url]http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congress-Begins-Investigation-into-IRS-Targeting-Conservative-Organizations-for-Extra-Scrutiny/10737439699-1/[/url]
[url]http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congress-Begins-Investigation-into-IRS-Targeting-Conservative-Organizations-for-Extra-Scrutiny/10737439699-1/[/url]
6.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
:pop:
7.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
Acting IRS Commissioner Steve Miller who resigned on Wednesday just denied any targeting took place.
:td:
:td:
8.) DParker - 05/17/2013
I'm loving all the Dem praise for his "taking responsibility and resigning" a position that he was due to leave next month anyway.
9.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
How bout the book club applying for tax-exempt status that were made to supply a list of books they were reading.
10.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
Wow, these targeted groups were absolutely hammered.
11.) DParker - 05/17/2013
I've watched/listened to a lot of these committee hearings over the years, and that's the first time I've ever heard the gallery erupt into applause for a congressman.
12.) bluecat - 05/17/2013
Here it is.
13.) DParker - 05/17/2013
I love a well-delivered rant.
14.) PB - 05/18/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;6039]
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video][/QUOTE]
Too Funny!!!! :applause:
[video=youtube;UmzsWxPLIOo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo[/video][/QUOTE]
Too Funny!!!! :applause:
15.) crookedeye - 05/18/2013
actually its kinda sad..
We The People..were there puppets. i miss the days of GW Bush..
We The People..were there puppets. i miss the days of GW Bush..
16.) Swamp Fox - 05/18/2013
It's hard to blame someone else for what's going wrong while simultaneously claiming that you don't know anything about what's going on, but somehow the Obama administration manages to stake out this tricky position as if it's their high ground....
17.) bluecat - 05/21/2013
Top IRS Official to Plead Fifth
Tuesday afternoon a bombshell was dropped into the already explosive IRS scandal when it was reported that Lois Lerner, a top IRS official in the non-profit division that paralyzed Tea Party groups with ongoing harassment, would invoke the Fifth Amendment.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/[/url]
Tuesday afternoon a bombshell was dropped into the already explosive IRS scandal when it was reported that Lois Lerner, a top IRS official in the non-profit division that paralyzed Tea Party groups with ongoing harassment, would invoke the Fifth Amendment.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/[/url]
18.) DParker - 05/21/2013
Well....this just gets more interesting every day, doesn't it?
19.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
Live feed
[url]http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/[/url]
[url]http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/[/url]
20.) DParker - 05/22/2013
:pop:
21.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
God this thing stinks SO bad.
22.) DParker - 05/22/2013
I knew this would be must-see viewing when it was revealed yesterday that Lois Lerner (who earned herself a "bushel of Pinocchios" from the WaPo Fact Checker [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-bushel-of-pinocchios-for-irss-lois-lerner/2013/05/19/771687d2-bfdd-11e2-9b09-1638acc3942e_blog.html[/url]) was going to plead the 5th. Even Cummings is feigning moral outrage.
23.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
It's always fun to see cockroaches scurry when illuminated by light.
24.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
If Lerner is get a "bushel of Pinocchios" what is Anthony Weiner getting?
25.) DParker - 05/22/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;6167]If Lerner is get a "bushel of Pinocchios" what is Anthony Weiner getting?[/QUOTE]
The Mayorship of NYC, if history is any indication.
This Shulman clown is a real piece of........work.
The Mayorship of NYC, if history is any indication.
This Shulman clown is a real piece of........work.
26.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
He definately got it handed to him didn't he?
27.) DParker - 05/22/2013
Chaffetz up now. He and Trey Gowdey are always my favorite parts of these things.
28.) bluecat - 05/22/2013
He was great. Hell, they've all been great. This is fascinating.
29.) DParker - 05/22/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;6172]He was great.[/QUOTE]
And I missed all of it. My browser froze up and, by the time I restarted it and got the streaming started again he was done. :bang:
And I missed all of it. My browser froze up and, by the time I restarted it and got the streaming started again he was done. :bang:
30.) DParker - 05/22/2013
While the White House continues to insist that the President himself didn't even know about the current IRS scandal until he heard it on the news this month just like the rest of us ('cuz the people who work for him, who knew about it for quite some time, decided that their job is to keep their boss blissfully ignorant of impending major scandals)....you have the DNC's Communications Director Karen Finney trying to claim it's all much ado about nothing by asking, "Why didn't Romney make more of a big deal about it during the election?"
[video=youtube;QelPtCeHeYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QelPtCeHeYI&feature=player_embedded[/video]
This begs the question: Is she completely brain-dead, or is she just assuming that MSNBC's audience is?
[video=youtube;QelPtCeHeYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QelPtCeHeYI&feature=player_embedded[/video]
This begs the question: Is she completely brain-dead, or is she just assuming that MSNBC's audience is?
31.) bluecat - 06/04/2013
Tea Party Groups Sue IRS, Obama Admin. for Unlawful Targeting
I'm posting this so Obama is aware of the situation.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/30/Tea-Party-Groups-Sue-IRS-Obama-Admin-for-Unlawful-Targeting[/url]
I'm posting this so Obama is aware of the situation.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/30/Tea-Party-Groups-Sue-IRS-Obama-Admin-for-Unlawful-Targeting[/url]
32.) DParker - 06/04/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;6405]I'm posting this so Obama is aware of the situation.[/QUOTE]
That's a good idea considering that, according to his staff, they certainly won't tell him about it.
That's a good idea considering that, according to his staff, they certainly won't tell him about it.
33.) bluecat - 06/04/2013
Live feed
[url]http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/irs-hearing-live-video-stream-house-appropriations-subcommittee-on-financial-services[/url]
[url]http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/irs-hearing-live-video-stream-house-appropriations-subcommittee-on-financial-services[/url]
34.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;6405]Tea Party Groups Sue IRS, Obama Admin. for Unlawful Targeting
I'm posting this so Obama is aware of the situation.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/30/Tea-Party-Groups-Sue-IRS-Obama-Admin-for-Unlawful-Targeting[/url][/QUOTE]
LOL...
It's a good thing he watches the news or reads the newspapers--or something-- or he'd never find out anything.
In fact, it's a good thing the Obama news outlets have email, because that's how they apparently learn about the news as well.
I'm posting this so Obama is aware of the situation.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/30/Tea-Party-Groups-Sue-IRS-Obama-Admin-for-Unlawful-Targeting[/url][/QUOTE]
LOL...
It's a good thing he watches the news or reads the newspapers--or something-- or he'd never find out anything.
In fact, it's a good thing the Obama news outlets have email, because that's how they apparently learn about the news as well.
35.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
I thought it was great that the henchmen were out on the Sunday news shows defending the administration by saying that it couldn't possibly have instigated or been involved in the IRS targeting because it was so stupid...
The targeting was stupid....The targeting...
The targeting was stupid....The targeting...
36.) bluecat - 06/04/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;6407]That's a good idea considering that, according to his staff, they certainly won't tell him about it.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, the staff is busy covering up other scandals right now so they are a little backed up.
To be fair, the staff is busy covering up other scandals right now so they are a little backed up.
37.) bluecat - 06/04/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;6412]I thought it was great that the henchmen were out on the Sunday news shows defending the administration by saying that it couldn't possibly have instigated or been involved in the IRS targeting because it was so stupid...
The targeting was stupid....The targeting...[/QUOTE]
I heard about that.
You know what strikes me is there is such an allegiance for a particular political side regardless of the crime. To me these scandals aren't about right and left but more about human decency. It's about being an American citizen, a human being.
The targeting was stupid....The targeting...[/QUOTE]
I heard about that.
You know what strikes me is there is such an allegiance for a particular political side regardless of the crime. To me these scandals aren't about right and left but more about human decency. It's about being an American citizen, a human being.
38.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
I don't know how some people sleep at night.
39.) DParker - 06/04/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;6419]I don't know how some people sleep at night.[/QUOTE]
Chemicals, mostly.
Chemicals, mostly.
40.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
You have to be right. Howard Dean must have a hell of a lot of old prescription pads for this bunch...
41.) DParker - 06/04/2013
Seriously though, I think a lot of it boils down to the ability to convince yourself that you and your side are so right/smart/good, and those other guys are just so wrong/stupid/evil that you can rationalize just about anything that furthers your political agenda. At that point things like principles are perceived as impediments that just get in the way of your noble pursuit of what you believe to be the greater good.
42.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
Right. Before I realized that having a conscience was the main thing, and that could have serious consequences to getting your Zs, I was gonna post that these things come down to a sense of superiority, entitlement and invincibility.
If I think of any other polite words that apply, I will update that list.
If I think of any other polite words that apply, I will update that list.
43.) DParker - 06/04/2013
That's why I don't get all that upset when I know a politician is lying to me, so long as he/she also knows they're lying. It's the true believers...those who have managed to convince themselves that the nonsense they're spewing is actually true...who worry me.
44.) Swamp Fox - 06/04/2013
My advice then, is to drink heavily and often...
"...There's an irony to occupying the Oval Office. When presidents think they're bigger than the job they hold, they shrink in office. When they think they're smaller than the honor they've been temporarily bestowed, they grow into it. Obama has done nothing but shrink.
Last week, the president of the United States attacked Karl Rove by name — twice! — in a speech. He recently begged a crowd of black supporters not to "make me look bad" by staying home from the polls. In an interview with Rolling Stone, he scolded young voters that if they don't vote, it will be proof they "weren't serious in the first place."
[B]It never dawns on him that were it not for the unseriousness of those voters, he might still be a one-term junior senator from Illinois.[/B]
[B]"You know, I actually believe my own bullshit," Obama told the author of "Renegade," Richard Wolffe.[/B]
Exactly. And that why he's gotten into this mess."
Emphasis mine. Excerpted from Jonah Goldberg's 2010 column in the LA Times, [I]Obama's Outsized Ego.[/I]
"...There's an irony to occupying the Oval Office. When presidents think they're bigger than the job they hold, they shrink in office. When they think they're smaller than the honor they've been temporarily bestowed, they grow into it. Obama has done nothing but shrink.
Last week, the president of the United States attacked Karl Rove by name — twice! — in a speech. He recently begged a crowd of black supporters not to "make me look bad" by staying home from the polls. In an interview with Rolling Stone, he scolded young voters that if they don't vote, it will be proof they "weren't serious in the first place."
[B]It never dawns on him that were it not for the unseriousness of those voters, he might still be a one-term junior senator from Illinois.[/B]
[B]"You know, I actually believe my own bullshit," Obama told the author of "Renegade," Richard Wolffe.[/B]
Exactly. And that why he's gotten into this mess."
Emphasis mine. Excerpted from Jonah Goldberg's 2010 column in the LA Times, [I]Obama's Outsized Ego.[/I]
45.) Hunter - 06/04/2013
... and drawing from what DP said, I am afraid that Obama believes what he spews! :bang:
46.) bluecat - 06/05/2013
I knew we were in trouble when he changed the Presidential seal after he was elected.
47.) bluecat - 06/05/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;6424]Right. Before I realized that having a conscience was the main thing, and that could have serious consequences to getting your Zs, I was gonna post that these things come down to a sense of superiority, entitlement and invincibility.
If I think of any other polite words that apply, I will update that list.[/QUOTE]
I'll help.
Self important, self indulgent and belligerent come to mind.
If I think of any other polite words that apply, I will update that list.[/QUOTE]
I'll help.
Self important, self indulgent and belligerent come to mind.
48.) bluecat - 06/05/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;6434]I'll help.
Self important, self indulgent and belligerent come to mind.[/QUOTE]
arrogant
Self important, self indulgent and belligerent come to mind.[/QUOTE]
arrogant
49.) bluecat - 06/05/2013
Susan Rice to be promoted.
"The president had even higher hopes for Rice, but those plans derailed when it became clear that Senate Republicans weren't going to let her September 16, 2012 parade of inaccuracies slide. She would have never survived a confirmation process, so Obama's done the next best thing: Promote her to a prestigious and influential position that doesn't require Senate confirmation. "
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/17/surprise-obama-poised-to-promote-susan-rice-n1599097[/url]
"The president had even higher hopes for Rice, but those plans derailed when it became clear that Senate Republicans weren't going to let her September 16, 2012 parade of inaccuracies slide. She would have never survived a confirmation process, so Obama's done the next best thing: Promote her to a prestigious and influential position that doesn't require Senate confirmation. "
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/17/surprise-obama-poised-to-promote-susan-rice-n1599097[/url]
50.) DParker - 06/05/2013
I wonder why she's being rewarded with such a nice promotion? I mean, it's not like she's got inside information pertaining to one of the scandals the administration's involved in or anything. Yep, it's a real mystery, it is.
51.) bluecat - 06/06/2013
Heard on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno:
An 84-year-old lady won the powerball worth an estimated 590 million. When asked how much she would pay in taxes the IRS didn't know because they first have to find out if she is a Democrat or a Republican.
[insert rimshot here]
An 84-year-old lady won the powerball worth an estimated 590 million. When asked how much she would pay in taxes the IRS didn't know because they first have to find out if she is a Democrat or a Republican.
[insert rimshot here]
52.) bluecat - 06/07/2013
Ah the plot continues to thicken.
The IRS claimed it was a rogue Cincinnati office that targeted tea partiers. Now it appears that the Cincinnati office was just acting on Washington's orders.
IRS Scandal: Misfired 2010 Cincinnati Email Alerted Washington Officials To Tea Party Targeting
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/irs-scandal-2010-cincinnati-email_n_3400176.html[/url]
The IRS claimed it was a rogue Cincinnati office that targeted tea partiers. Now it appears that the Cincinnati office was just acting on Washington's orders.
IRS Scandal: Misfired 2010 Cincinnati Email Alerted Washington Officials To Tea Party Targeting
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/irs-scandal-2010-cincinnati-email_n_3400176.html[/url]
53.) bluecat - 06/07/2013
Powerful testimony by a "tea partier"
54.) bluecat - 06/14/2013
It is comforting to know that things are progressing smoothly.
55.) bluecat - 06/25/2013
[B]
Use of some lists of conservative labels for further screening stopped in May 2012 when IRS officials were first notified of the practice.
However, Werfel's review showed that other inappropriate lists continued to be used until as recently as this month by the unit that handles tax-exempt applications.
Werfel was informed on June 12, 2013, that other BOLO lists were still in use. He immediately suspended use of any BOLO lists by the unit that handles tax-exempt applications, his review said.[/B]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting[/url]
Probably a good idea to go ahead and discontinue targeting. At least until the scandal blows over.
Use of some lists of conservative labels for further screening stopped in May 2012 when IRS officials were first notified of the practice.
However, Werfel's review showed that other inappropriate lists continued to be used until as recently as this month by the unit that handles tax-exempt applications.
Werfel was informed on June 12, 2013, that other BOLO lists were still in use. He immediately suspended use of any BOLO lists by the unit that handles tax-exempt applications, his review said.[/B]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting[/url]
Probably a good idea to go ahead and discontinue targeting. At least until the scandal blows over.
56.) Swamp Fox - 06/25/2013
LOL...
57.) Hunter - 06/25/2013
They don't need BOLO lists anymore, everyone now knows who to look for!
58.) bluecat - 06/26/2013
Finally some good news regarding the IRS. Their spending habits are now curbed. Yeah!
WASHINGTON – Another government watchdog report has flagged inappropriate behavior at the IRS, this time claiming government credit cards were used to make questionable purchases on items ranging from wine to online pornography.
The report said IRS credit cards paid for 28 bottles of wine at the 2010 luncheon for tax officials from other countries. There were 41 guests.
In another case, cards were used to make questionable purchases of decorative and give-away items including plush animals, bandanas, kazoos and a rented popcorn machine.
Another cardholder allegedly made $2,655 worth of personal purchases -- the report said credit card information indicates it was spent on diet pills, romance novels and other items, and that the purchaser may have provided false receipts to justify it.
Two IRS credit cards were also used to buy online pornography, though the employees reported the cards stolen. One of the workers reported five agency credit cards lost or stolen.
The report said the IRS has inadequate controls to stop inappropriate purchases.
[B]The report was issued by the same watchdog that flagged the IRS' inappropriate screening of conservative groups that were seeking tax-exempt status. The IG office has also criticized the agency for its conference spending practices, though agency leaders say that spending has been curbed.[/B]
Read more: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/25/irs-credit-cards-used-for-wine-pornography-ig-report-says/#ixzz2XKLpjH00[/url]
WASHINGTON – Another government watchdog report has flagged inappropriate behavior at the IRS, this time claiming government credit cards were used to make questionable purchases on items ranging from wine to online pornography.
The report said IRS credit cards paid for 28 bottles of wine at the 2010 luncheon for tax officials from other countries. There were 41 guests.
In another case, cards were used to make questionable purchases of decorative and give-away items including plush animals, bandanas, kazoos and a rented popcorn machine.
Another cardholder allegedly made $2,655 worth of personal purchases -- the report said credit card information indicates it was spent on diet pills, romance novels and other items, and that the purchaser may have provided false receipts to justify it.
Two IRS credit cards were also used to buy online pornography, though the employees reported the cards stolen. One of the workers reported five agency credit cards lost or stolen.
The report said the IRS has inadequate controls to stop inappropriate purchases.
[B]The report was issued by the same watchdog that flagged the IRS' inappropriate screening of conservative groups that were seeking tax-exempt status. The IG office has also criticized the agency for its conference spending practices, though agency leaders say that spending has been curbed.[/B]
Read more: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/25/irs-credit-cards-used-for-wine-pornography-ig-report-says/#ixzz2XKLpjH00[/url]
59.) bluecat - 07/05/2013
[url]http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/[/url]
60.) bluecat - 07/18/2013
Live feed
[url]http://oversight.house.gov/hearing/the-irs-systematic-delay-and-scrutiny-of-tea-party-applications/[/url]
[url]http://oversight.house.gov/hearing/the-irs-systematic-delay-and-scrutiny-of-tea-party-applications/[/url]
61.) bluecat - 09/24/2013
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/23/lois-lerner-key-player-in-irs-tea-party-scandal-retiring/[/url]
Lerner, who headed the division in the tax-collecting agency that handles applications for tax-exempt status, had been placed on [B]paid administrative leave [/B]in May.
Why would she retire? She had a pretty good gig going.
Lerner, who headed the division in the tax-collecting agency that handles applications for tax-exempt status, had been placed on [B]paid administrative leave [/B]in May.
Why would she retire? She had a pretty good gig going.
62.) Swamp Fox - 09/24/2013
I told you last week, she's going to challenge Hillary for the Democratic nomination in 2016...Now all she needs to be competitive is a list of accomplishments...
Oh, wait...
:re:
Oh, wait...
:re:
63.) bluecat - 09/24/2013
"The announcement has not quieted calls for a [B]thorough probe [/B]into the agency's actions."
This could be a job for Carlos Danger!
This could be a job for Carlos Danger!
64.) DParker - 09/24/2013
[QUOTE=bluecat;10974][url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/23/lois-lerner-key-player-in-irs-tea-party-scandal-retiring/[/url]
Lerner, who headed the division in the tax-collecting agency that handles applications for tax-exempt status, had been placed on [B]paid administrative leave [/B]in May.
Why would she retire? She had a pretty good gig going.[/QUOTE]
Oh, that's an easy one:
[URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430174/Lois-Lerner-embattled-official-heart-IRS-tea-party-scandal-retire-pension-likely-50-000-year-Congress-seeks-answers.html"]Lois Lerner, embattled official at the heart of IRS tea party scandal, retires with full pension likely worth more than $50,000 as an internal review called for her firing[/URL]
Lerner, who headed the division in the tax-collecting agency that handles applications for tax-exempt status, had been placed on [B]paid administrative leave [/B]in May.
Why would she retire? She had a pretty good gig going.[/QUOTE]
Oh, that's an easy one:
[URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430174/Lois-Lerner-embattled-official-heart-IRS-tea-party-scandal-retire-pension-likely-50-000-year-Congress-seeks-answers.html"]Lois Lerner, embattled official at the heart of IRS tea party scandal, retires with full pension likely worth more than $50,000 as an internal review called for her firing[/URL]
65.) Swamp Fox - 09/25/2013
I hear Disney is remaking [I]101 Dalmations[/I] and is in negotiations for a new Cruella de Vil, so she has that going for her...
66.) Swamp Fox - 09/25/2013
67.) bluecat - 09/25/2013
Nicely done.
68.) Swamp Fox - 09/25/2013
Thanks.
I strive for excellence...:wink
I strive for excellence...:wink
69.) Jon - 09/25/2013
Speaking of our Gov't invading our privacy, have you folks seen this??
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/09/24/cbs-newss-sharyl-attkisson-hacking-investigation-progressing/[/url]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/09/24/cbs-newss-sharyl-attkisson-hacking-investigation-progressing/[/url]
70.) Swamp Fox - 09/25/2013
I heard about that about the same time as the James Rosen story started gathering steam, but it has received a lot less attention-- that I've noticed, anyway. I wondered what had happened to the story.
[url]http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/clark-judge/2013/05/23/irs-ap-and-james-rosen-scandals-strike-at-the-first-amendment[/url]
[url]http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/clark-judge/2013/05/23/irs-ap-and-james-rosen-scandals-strike-at-the-first-amendment[/url]
71.) DParker - 09/25/2013
[QUOTE=Jon;11026]Speaking of our Gov't invading our privacy, have you folks seen this??
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/09/24/cbs-newss-sharyl-attkisson-hacking-investigation-progressing/[/url][/QUOTE]
I've been following that one since she first made the claim (her being the first MSM reporter to break the Fast-and-Furious story I tend to pay attention to her). But honestly this is a tricky one. On the one hand nothing at all would surprise me in the way of "dirty tricks" by those either in or connected with the current administration...or even other parts of the fed.gov. On the other hand, millions of people have their PCs hacked all the time by scammers, thieves and just general nerdy losers with too much time on their hands, and there's no reason to assume that she's less likely to be a victim of that than anyone else.
So at this point I'm taking a wait-and-see approach, neither dismissing it out-of-hand nor assuming that it's anything other than a garden variety hacker.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/09/24/cbs-newss-sharyl-attkisson-hacking-investigation-progressing/[/url][/QUOTE]
I've been following that one since she first made the claim (her being the first MSM reporter to break the Fast-and-Furious story I tend to pay attention to her). But honestly this is a tricky one. On the one hand nothing at all would surprise me in the way of "dirty tricks" by those either in or connected with the current administration...or even other parts of the fed.gov. On the other hand, millions of people have their PCs hacked all the time by scammers, thieves and just general nerdy losers with too much time on their hands, and there's no reason to assume that she's less likely to be a victim of that than anyone else.
So at this point I'm taking a wait-and-see approach, neither dismissing it out-of-hand nor assuming that it's anything other than a garden variety hacker.
72.) DParker - 09/25/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;11016]I hear Disney is remaking [I]101 Dalmations[/I] and is in negotiations for a new Cruella de Vil, so she has that going for her...[/QUOTE]
That and the fact that her lawyers are now telling Darrell Issa et al on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that she won't testify (without continuing to plead the 5th) unless she's granted an immunity deal. THAT always looks really good.
That and the fact that her lawyers are now telling Darrell Issa et al on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that she won't testify (without continuing to plead the 5th) unless she's granted an immunity deal. THAT always looks really good.
73.) bluecat - 09/25/2013
So if she names names she's off the hook? That ain't right.
74.) Swamp Fox - 09/26/2013
Well, I suppose you can bring a criminal case against her and see what happens. Somebody has to be digging up evidence in pursuit of that, right? Not sure why the Congressional Committee is getting all the focus and not a potential actual prosecution. (See what I did there? :wink)
Personally, I'm not sure why everyone thinks she can't name names without immunity. Surely the promise of future favors by the guilty co-conspirators can't trump the penalties of a vigorous and successful federal prosection...Or can they? I mean, we're not talking about her having Clinton-caliber allies--that I've heard of, anyway.
Personally, I'm not sure why everyone thinks she can't name names without immunity. Surely the promise of future favors by the guilty co-conspirators can't trump the penalties of a vigorous and successful federal prosection...Or can they? I mean, we're not talking about her having Clinton-caliber allies--that I've heard of, anyway.
75.) bluecat - 09/26/2013
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;11067]Surely the promise of future favors by the guilty co-conspirators can't trump the penalties of a vigorous and successful federal prosection...Or can they? [/QUOTE]
This is what I was thinking. A bird in the hand...
This is what I was thinking. A bird in the hand...
76.) bluecat - 09/26/2013
Or maybe it was a witch in time saves nine?
77.) Swamp Fox - 09/26/2013
LOL...
The question is where do you find a vigorous and successful federal prosecution these days?...I suppose they could go digging around at the Justice Department to see if they might stumble on some possibility there...
Oh, wait...
The question is where do you find a vigorous and successful federal prosecution these days?...I suppose they could go digging around at the Justice Department to see if they might stumble on some possibility there...
Oh, wait...
78.) Swamp Fox - 01/10/2014
Speaking of vigorous federal prosecution:
[B]FBI Cracks Down on Insane Clown Posse[/B]
No, they're not investigating the Obama administration, the DOJ, IRS, ATF, MSNBC or MoveOn...
[I]With two platinum albums and five gold albums, the hard-core hip-hop duo known as Insane Clown Posse has a legion of loyal fans. But none, apparently, at the FBI headquarters in Washington, where anyone who listens to the posse’s harsh music is regarded as a gangbanger who should be under constant watch...
Perhaps Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. can find new tasks for the FBI if agents have too much time on their hands. He could assign them to investigate the Internal Revenue Service for abusing political opponents of President Obama, or to get to the bottom of what really happened at Benghazi.
When they clear all that up, there will be time enough to go after the “small number” of people who wear clown makeup to pursue dreadful noise disguised as music. [/I]
Read more: [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/9/editorial-bringing-in-the-clowns/#ixzz2q0tZzZRM[/url]
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
[B]FBI Cracks Down on Insane Clown Posse[/B]
No, they're not investigating the Obama administration, the DOJ, IRS, ATF, MSNBC or MoveOn...
[I]With two platinum albums and five gold albums, the hard-core hip-hop duo known as Insane Clown Posse has a legion of loyal fans. But none, apparently, at the FBI headquarters in Washington, where anyone who listens to the posse’s harsh music is regarded as a gangbanger who should be under constant watch...
Perhaps Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. can find new tasks for the FBI if agents have too much time on their hands. He could assign them to investigate the Internal Revenue Service for abusing political opponents of President Obama, or to get to the bottom of what really happened at Benghazi.
When they clear all that up, there will be time enough to go after the “small number” of people who wear clown makeup to pursue dreadful noise disguised as music. [/I]
Read more: [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/9/editorial-bringing-in-the-clowns/#ixzz2q0tZzZRM[/url]
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
79.) bluecat - 01/10/2014
Keep after 'em Swamp. We have to keep our government working for us.
Do I need to start a thread regarding Fat and Furious...er George Washington Bridge scandal?
Do I need to start a thread regarding Fat and Furious...er George Washington Bridge scandal?
80.) Swamp Fox - 01/21/2014
Tough Break For The IRS
[I]A Long Island man tripped over a telephone cord during an audit, sued the IRS and came away $862,000 richer — and he doesn’t have to pay any taxes on the windfall, The Post has learned.
William Berroyer, 66, the father of a Suffolk County cop, claimed he could no longer enjoy activities from golf to sex because of injuries suffered when the cord wrapped around his leg in a Haup*pauge IRS office in 2008.
The IRS argued that Berroyer, of Nesconset, was exaggerating his injuries, but Judge Arthur Spatt found the agency liable for pain and suffering, court papers show.
The former businessman was hammering out a repayment deal with the IRS for his $60,000 bill when he was injured...
Testifying for the IRS, Dr. Arthur Rosen said, “There is no physical basis for the defect that the patient claims.”
Despite the award, it could have been worse for Uncle Sam.
Berroyer was seeking $10 million in the lawsuit and claimed that he had been wheelchair-bound ever since the injury.
But Judge Spatt didn’t buy that claim, and limited the amount of the payout...
[/I]
Read more:
[url]http://nypost.com/2014/01/20/businessman-wins-862g-for-tripping-at-irs-audit/[/url]
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[I]A Long Island man tripped over a telephone cord during an audit, sued the IRS and came away $862,000 richer — and he doesn’t have to pay any taxes on the windfall, The Post has learned.
William Berroyer, 66, the father of a Suffolk County cop, claimed he could no longer enjoy activities from golf to sex because of injuries suffered when the cord wrapped around his leg in a Haup*pauge IRS office in 2008.
The IRS argued that Berroyer, of Nesconset, was exaggerating his injuries, but Judge Arthur Spatt found the agency liable for pain and suffering, court papers show.
The former businessman was hammering out a repayment deal with the IRS for his $60,000 bill when he was injured...
Testifying for the IRS, Dr. Arthur Rosen said, “There is no physical basis for the defect that the patient claims.”
Despite the award, it could have been worse for Uncle Sam.
Berroyer was seeking $10 million in the lawsuit and claimed that he had been wheelchair-bound ever since the injury.
But Judge Spatt didn’t buy that claim, and limited the amount of the payout...
[/I]
Read more:
[url]http://nypost.com/2014/01/20/businessman-wins-862g-for-tripping-at-irs-audit/[/url]
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81.) DParker - 01/21/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;14986]William Berroyer, 66...claimed he could no longer enjoy activities from golf to sex...[/QUOTE]
At 66, I wonder which one he misses more?
At 66, I wonder which one he misses more?
82.) Swamp Fox - 01/21/2014
I'm not a golfer, but I've seen some on TV. I believe the only way to answer that question would be to study pics of the wife and/or girlfriend.
83.) bluecat - 03/07/2014
Lois Lerner pleads the fifth again, doesn't testify on IRS targeting.
84.) bluecat - 03/07/2014
Rep. Darrell Issa: Ms. Lerner, put up slide 1 please, on October 10th, in October 2010, you told a Duke University group, and I quote,
“The Supreme Court dealt a huge blow, overturning a 100-year-old precedent that basically corporations couldn’t give directly to political campaigns. And everyone is up in arms because they don’t like it. The Federal Election Commission can’t do anything about it.”
– Lois Lerner, IRS EO Director, October 19, 2010
Ms. Lerner, what exactly does ‘wanted to fix the problem caused by Citizen United’? What exactly does that mean? Would you please turn the mic on?
Lois Lerner: My counsel has advised me that I have not waived my constitutional rights under the Fifth Amendment and on his advice, I will decline to answer any question on the subject matter of this hearing.
Issa: So, you’re not going to tell us who wanted to fix the problem caused by Citizen United?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in February 2011, you emailed your colleagues in the IRS the following:
“Tea Party matter very dangerous. The could be the vehicle to go to court on the issue of whether Citizen’s United overturning the ban on corporate spending applies to tax exempt rules. Counsel and Judy Kindell need to be on this one please….Cincy should probably NOT have these cases – Holly please see exactly what they have, please.
Issa: “What did you mean by Cincy should not have these cases?”
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, why would you say Tea Party cases were very dangerous?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: In September 2010, you emailed your subordinates about initiating a ‘c4’ project and wrote ‘We need to be cautious so there isn’t a, per se, political project.” Why were you worried about this being perceived as a political project?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Mike Seecho, manager of EO Technical in Washington, testified that you ordered Tea Party cases to undergo a multi-tier review. He testified, and I quote, “She sent me emails saying that when these cases need to go through multi-tier review, and they will eventually have to go to Ms. Kindell and the chief counsel’s office.” Why did you order Tea Party cases to undergo a multi-tier review?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in June 2011, you requested that Holly Pause obtain a copy of the tax exempt application filed by Crossroads GPS so that your senior technical advisor, Judy Kindell, can review it and summarize the issues for you. Ms. Lerner, why did you want to personally order that they pull Crossroads GPS, Karl Rove’s organization’s, application.
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in June 2012, you were part of an email exchange that appeared to be about writing new regulations on political speech for 501c4 groups and, in parenthesis, your quote ‘off plan’ in 2013. Ms. Lerner, what does ‘off plan’ mean?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in February of 2014, President Obama stated that there was not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS targeting. Ms. Lerner, do you believe that there is not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS targeting of conservatives?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, on Saturday, our committee’s general counsel sent an email to your attorney saying, “I understand that Ms. Lerner is willing to testify and she is requesting a one week delay in talking to chairman wanted to make sure that was right. Your lawyer in response to that question gave a one word email response. “Yes.” Are you still seeking a one week delay in order to testify?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ladies and gentlemen, seeking the truth is the obligation of this committee. I can see no point in going further. I have no expectation Ms. Lerner will cooperate with this committee and therefore we adjourn.
“The Supreme Court dealt a huge blow, overturning a 100-year-old precedent that basically corporations couldn’t give directly to political campaigns. And everyone is up in arms because they don’t like it. The Federal Election Commission can’t do anything about it.”
– Lois Lerner, IRS EO Director, October 19, 2010
Ms. Lerner, what exactly does ‘wanted to fix the problem caused by Citizen United’? What exactly does that mean? Would you please turn the mic on?
Lois Lerner: My counsel has advised me that I have not waived my constitutional rights under the Fifth Amendment and on his advice, I will decline to answer any question on the subject matter of this hearing.
Issa: So, you’re not going to tell us who wanted to fix the problem caused by Citizen United?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in February 2011, you emailed your colleagues in the IRS the following:
“Tea Party matter very dangerous. The could be the vehicle to go to court on the issue of whether Citizen’s United overturning the ban on corporate spending applies to tax exempt rules. Counsel and Judy Kindell need to be on this one please….Cincy should probably NOT have these cases – Holly please see exactly what they have, please.
Issa: “What did you mean by Cincy should not have these cases?”
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, why would you say Tea Party cases were very dangerous?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: In September 2010, you emailed your subordinates about initiating a ‘c4’ project and wrote ‘We need to be cautious so there isn’t a, per se, political project.” Why were you worried about this being perceived as a political project?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Mike Seecho, manager of EO Technical in Washington, testified that you ordered Tea Party cases to undergo a multi-tier review. He testified, and I quote, “She sent me emails saying that when these cases need to go through multi-tier review, and they will eventually have to go to Ms. Kindell and the chief counsel’s office.” Why did you order Tea Party cases to undergo a multi-tier review?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in June 2011, you requested that Holly Pause obtain a copy of the tax exempt application filed by Crossroads GPS so that your senior technical advisor, Judy Kindell, can review it and summarize the issues for you. Ms. Lerner, why did you want to personally order that they pull Crossroads GPS, Karl Rove’s organization’s, application.
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in June 2012, you were part of an email exchange that appeared to be about writing new regulations on political speech for 501c4 groups and, in parenthesis, your quote ‘off plan’ in 2013. Ms. Lerner, what does ‘off plan’ mean?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, in February of 2014, President Obama stated that there was not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS targeting. Ms. Lerner, do you believe that there is not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS targeting of conservatives?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ms. Lerner, on Saturday, our committee’s general counsel sent an email to your attorney saying, “I understand that Ms. Lerner is willing to testify and she is requesting a one week delay in talking to chairman wanted to make sure that was right. Your lawyer in response to that question gave a one word email response. “Yes.” Are you still seeking a one week delay in order to testify?
Lerner: On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully exercise my Fifth Amendment right and decline to answer that question.
Issa: Ladies and gentlemen, seeking the truth is the obligation of this committee. I can see no point in going further. I have no expectation Ms. Lerner will cooperate with this committee and therefore we adjourn.
85.) Swamp Fox - 03/07/2014
I have to say she looked refreshed after she enjoyed her four-month (?) paid leave of absence and eased into retirement. We all should have found such a gig.
One thing I've missed in all this is why was the question she was asked that opened all this up planted in the first place? I'm a bit of a news hound, but somehow I've never read or seen a discussion of this.
Anyhoo, I'm no expert on Roberts Rules of Order (I've never run a meeting that was much beyond making sure you had a quorum and that everyone knew what yay and nay meant, LOL) but Cummings proved himself a hammerhead once again. And yet most of the negative focus in the media is on Issa.
I saw some knucklehead with a D after his name getting interviewed the other day and he said (in a hostile manner) that "this" (either the interview or the targeting situation; it was unclear) should not be a launching pad (my phrase) for calls to abolish the IRS.
Of course, the proper response of the interviewer to that question is "Why shouldn't it be?" but-- of course again--- that question was not asked.
One thing I've missed in all this is why was the question she was asked that opened all this up planted in the first place? I'm a bit of a news hound, but somehow I've never read or seen a discussion of this.
Anyhoo, I'm no expert on Roberts Rules of Order (I've never run a meeting that was much beyond making sure you had a quorum and that everyone knew what yay and nay meant, LOL) but Cummings proved himself a hammerhead once again. And yet most of the negative focus in the media is on Issa.
I saw some knucklehead with a D after his name getting interviewed the other day and he said (in a hostile manner) that "this" (either the interview or the targeting situation; it was unclear) should not be a launching pad (my phrase) for calls to abolish the IRS.
Of course, the proper response of the interviewer to that question is "Why shouldn't it be?" but-- of course again--- that question was not asked.
86.) bluecat - 03/07/2014
I wish they would conduct business like every law officer on COPS.
Officer O'Malley: "Do you know where this meth came from?"
Skinny scraggly man in wife beater: "No."
Officer O'Malley: "I don't believe you and you are going to jail."
Officer O'Malley: "Do you know where this meth came from?"
Skinny scraggly man in wife beater: "No."
Officer O'Malley: "I don't believe you and you are going to jail."
87.) bluecat - 03/07/2014
Skinny scraggly man in wife beater: "You shouldn't end your sentences with prepositions."
Officer O'Malley: (laughing out loud) "We'll I found out it's okay in certain situations."
Skinny scraggly man in wife beater: (looking at the camera) "He's a cruel cop, but fair." :wink
Officer O'Malley: (laughing out loud) "We'll I found out it's okay in certain situations."
Skinny scraggly man in wife beater: (looking at the camera) "He's a cruel cop, but fair." :wink
88.) Swamp Fox - 03/07/2014
"Hello, sailors!"
:laugh:
:laugh:
89.) Swamp Fox - 03/07/2014
Ooops.. Same episode, but a different sketch...It's amazing what I don't remember clearly from the 1970's...LOL
90.) Wild Bob - 03/07/2014
I’ve always been partial to Rip Torn’s great line in ‘Extreme Prejudice:’ (he played the older sheriff) “Hell, Jack…the only thing worse than a politician is a child molester.”
91.) DParker - 03/07/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;17613]Lois Lerner pleads the fifth again, doesn't testify on IRS targeting.
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92.) bluecat - 04/17/2014
Former IRS official Louis Lerner and her colleagues at the tax agency were under a tremendous amount of pressure from President Obama and other Democrats to scrutinize a Tea Party applicant for public disclosure, despite rules protecting the privacy of unapproved applications, according to a staff report from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/11/Report-Lerner-Emails-Show-Partisan-Concern-For-Democrats[/url]
[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/11/Report-Lerner-Emails-Show-Partisan-Concern-For-Democrats[/url]
93.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
New documents obtained and released through a Judicial Watch lawsuit show the targeting of tea party and conservative groups came directly out of Washington D.C., not a rogue IRS office in Cincinnati.
I'm sure this news is shocking to most people...
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/05/14/new-documents-show-irs-targeting-came-directly-from-washington-dc-n1838128[/url]
I'm sure this news is shocking to most people...
[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/05/14/new-documents-show-irs-targeting-came-directly-from-washington-dc-n1838128[/url]
94.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Swampy, I see you out there "goobling".
95.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Yeah....I almost missed this one...LOL...
96.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
proving what we all ready knew
97.) Hunter - 05/15/2014
Obama........ "I know nothing!"
Hilary......... "What difference does it make?"
:bang:
Hilary......... "What difference does it make?"
:bang:
98.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
[B]IRS Says Official's Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash[/B]
"Ms. Lerner herself unsuccessfully tried to get agency technicians to reconstruct her hard drive at the time it crashed, the IRS said."
Oh, that is a hoot. To the pimply faced technician: "Well my internet was slow so I erased my hard drive to help out. Can you see if you can get some emails back?"
[url]http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-provides-more-emails-in-conservative-group-targeting-probe-1402684543[/url]
"Ms. Lerner herself unsuccessfully tried to get agency technicians to reconstruct her hard drive at the time it crashed, the IRS said."
Oh, that is a hoot. To the pimply faced technician: "Well my internet was slow so I erased my hard drive to help out. Can you see if you can get some emails back?"
[url]http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-provides-more-emails-in-conservative-group-targeting-probe-1402684543[/url]
99.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
Also, emails, although downloaded to your local machine, still exist on a server. All of them can/could be retrieved.
100.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
I think it's worse than that...From what I gathered over the weekend, the emails are allegedly gone at that level too.
I think that's what they've been doing for the last year or so since they were requested: looking for them. That would be my story, anyway.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.
I think that's what they've been doing for the last year or so since they were requested: looking for them. That would be my story, anyway.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.
101.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20928]I think it's worse than that...From what I gathered over the weekend, the emails are allegedly gone at that level too.
I think that's what they've been doing for the last year or so since they were requested: looking for them. That would be my story, anyway.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.[/QUOTE]
All those emails would have been backed up to tape on a nightly basis and stored offsite. It's pretty standard protocol for any type of agency.
The fact that they are all gone now just tells you this thing is a lot bigger than Ms. fat face. I realize I'm not telling you guys anything you don't already know or suspect.
I also found it brazen to say you didn't do anything wrong after you've refused to talk at your hearing.
I think that's what they've been doing for the last year or so since they were requested: looking for them. That would be my story, anyway.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.[/QUOTE]
All those emails would have been backed up to tape on a nightly basis and stored offsite. It's pretty standard protocol for any type of agency.
The fact that they are all gone now just tells you this thing is a lot bigger than Ms. fat face. I realize I'm not telling you guys anything you don't already know or suspect.
I also found it brazen to say you didn't do anything wrong after you've refused to talk at your hearing.
102.) Floyd - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20928]I think it's worse than that...From what I gathered over the weekend, the emails are gone at that level too.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.[/QUOTE]
Believe me, it's on the storage server in Utah, and few other underground storage locations. What's funny is, so are the steps of whom ever deleted the files are on there as well.
That's pretty cool how Hillary can separate taxpayer from United States Taxpayers and make it alright. Reminds me of cheesecake. Good thing I had left over apple pie for breakfast.
It's hard to believe the IRS screwed something up, especially losing something. :re:
The good news is that these guys aren't a threat to the United States...they're a threat to taxpayers...I think that's how Hillary put it.[/QUOTE]
Believe me, it's on the storage server in Utah, and few other underground storage locations. What's funny is, so are the steps of whom ever deleted the files are on there as well.
That's pretty cool how Hillary can separate taxpayer from United States Taxpayers and make it alright. Reminds me of cheesecake. Good thing I had left over apple pie for breakfast.
103.) Floyd - 06/16/2014
We just can't have curtain WH e-mail addresses, on curtain e-mails, made public.
104.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20928]I think it's worse than that...From what I gathered over the weekend, the emails are allegedly gone at that level too.
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I don't know how it works and I could have misunderstood the depth of the hole the records are "known" to have disappeared into.
Doesn't really matter because I don't believe anything they say anyway, and at this point I'd think anybody who is even half-way tuned in feels the same way about this bunch.
A while back I was reading an article about state attorneys general choosing to NOT enforce their own state laws (range of topics). The state is their [I]client[/I] and AGs are elected or appointed to represent their client, which in turn is supposedly representing and reflecting [I]its [/I] client (the people) through things like--you know-- elections and the processes of a representative democracy. It's the AG's JOB to support and defend the laws of his state, and beyond that, a lawyer is [I]OBLIGATED[/I] to represent the interests of his client.
I came to the conclusion that if this disregard, shown from the President down to the AGs and beyond continues, it sends a pretty clear message that laws are optional. (And when they're not, they might just be whatever the top dog says they are, and what's convenient, at best.)
It won't be long before regular joes just give up and start believing laws are a joke. Maybe we're they're already.
I think we're at least at a point where the average person's reaction to laws, lawmakers and law enforcers is "Talk to the hand."
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I don't know how it works and I could have misunderstood the depth of the hole the records are "known" to have disappeared into.
Doesn't really matter because I don't believe anything they say anyway, and at this point I'd think anybody who is even half-way tuned in feels the same way about this bunch.
A while back I was reading an article about state attorneys general choosing to NOT enforce their own state laws (range of topics). The state is their [I]client[/I] and AGs are elected or appointed to represent their client, which in turn is supposedly representing and reflecting [I]its [/I] client (the people) through things like--you know-- elections and the processes of a representative democracy. It's the AG's JOB to support and defend the laws of his state, and beyond that, a lawyer is [I]OBLIGATED[/I] to represent the interests of his client.
I came to the conclusion that if this disregard, shown from the President down to the AGs and beyond continues, it sends a pretty clear message that laws are optional. (And when they're not, they might just be whatever the top dog says they are, and what's convenient, at best.)
It won't be long before regular joes just give up and start believing laws are a joke. Maybe we're they're already.
I think we're at least at a point where the average person's reaction to laws, lawmakers and law enforcers is "Talk to the hand."
105.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Floyd;20932]That's pretty cool how Hillary can separate taxpayer from United States Taxpayers and make it alright. Reminds me of cheesecake. Good thing I had left over apple pie for breakfast.[/QUOTE]
I was making a little funny there, referencing her comments on the release of the five Taliban leaders, rather than the IRS.
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-taliban-5-not-threat-united-states_794863.html[/url]
But I don't doubt she could use the same logic for the IRS and all sorts of thing. After all, hardly anything matters to her, apparently. (The other day I saw her claim that the "reset" with Russia was a success....Boldly...It was in an interview with the BBC....These people are delusional. Or maybe she thought Americans wouldn't see the tape. )
I was making a little funny there, referencing her comments on the release of the five Taliban leaders, rather than the IRS.
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-taliban-5-not-threat-united-states_794863.html[/url]
But I don't doubt she could use the same logic for the IRS and all sorts of thing. After all, hardly anything matters to her, apparently. (The other day I saw her claim that the "reset" with Russia was a success....Boldly...It was in an interview with the BBC....These people are delusional. Or maybe she thought Americans wouldn't see the tape. )
106.) Floyd - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20936]I think we're at least at a point where the average person's reaction to laws, lawmakers and law enforcers is "Talk to the hand."[/QUOTE]
Hence the strong desire and push to make sure hands are empty.
Hence the strong desire and push to make sure hands are empty.
107.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
LOL...True, very true.
108.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
This is what you get for ten million dollars, what the IRS claims to have spent complying with the targeting investigation.
120,000 man-hours and 250 employees.
Sure.
120,000 man-hours and 250 employees.
Sure.
109.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20940]This is what you get for ten million dollars, what the IRS claims to have spent complying with the targeting investigation.
120,000 man-hours and 250 employees.
Sure.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, those are the man hours used for paper shredding, hard drive repartitioning, threatening and torturing witnesses...
120,000 man-hours and 250 employees.
Sure.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, those are the man hours used for paper shredding, hard drive repartitioning, threatening and torturing witnesses...
110.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
LOL...
Who says crime doesn't pay?
Who says crime doesn't pay?
111.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
Maybe this is the problem...
112.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20937]I was making a little funny there, referencing her comments on the release of the five Taliban leaders, rather than the IRS.
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-taliban-5-not-threat-united-states_794863.html[/url]
But I don't doubt she could use the same logic for the IRS and all sorts of thing. After all, hardly anything matters to her, apparently. (The other day I saw her claim that the "reset" with Russia was a success....Boldly...It was in an interview with the BBC....These people are delusional. Or maybe she thought Americans wouldn't see the tape. )[/QUOTE]
Just thought a link would be interesting to the people who would find it interesting, since-- if anything-- I understated Hillary's disconnection from reality...
[I]During a March 2009 meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Geneva, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented the Russian with a small green box with a ribbon. Inside was a red button with the Russian word “peregruzka” printed on it which Hillary believed meant "reset" unfortunately it means "overcharged."
Five years later after Snowden's sanctuary in Russia, Putin outmaneuvering Obama regarding Syria, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, many would argue that U.S./Russian relations are at their lowest point since the Cold War. Not Ms. Clinton however, as witnessed by this segment of her BBC interview:
[B]Interviewer: You famously pressed the reset button. Are you embarrassed by that now, that gesture?
Clinton: No I think it was a brilliant stroke which in retrospect it appears even more so...
[/B][/I]
[url]http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/hillary-clinton-russian-reset-was-a-brilliant-success/question-4366861/[/url]
And now, back to our regular programming...
[url]http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-taliban-5-not-threat-united-states_794863.html[/url]
But I don't doubt she could use the same logic for the IRS and all sorts of thing. After all, hardly anything matters to her, apparently. (The other day I saw her claim that the "reset" with Russia was a success....Boldly...It was in an interview with the BBC....These people are delusional. Or maybe she thought Americans wouldn't see the tape. )[/QUOTE]
Just thought a link would be interesting to the people who would find it interesting, since-- if anything-- I understated Hillary's disconnection from reality...
[I]During a March 2009 meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Geneva, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented the Russian with a small green box with a ribbon. Inside was a red button with the Russian word “peregruzka” printed on it which Hillary believed meant "reset" unfortunately it means "overcharged."
Five years later after Snowden's sanctuary in Russia, Putin outmaneuvering Obama regarding Syria, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, many would argue that U.S./Russian relations are at their lowest point since the Cold War. Not Ms. Clinton however, as witnessed by this segment of her BBC interview:
[B]Interviewer: You famously pressed the reset button. Are you embarrassed by that now, that gesture?
Clinton: No I think it was a brilliant stroke which in retrospect it appears even more so...
[/B][/I]
[url]http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/hillary-clinton-russian-reset-was-a-brilliant-success/question-4366861/[/url]
And now, back to our regular programming...
113.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
Just watching her sends shivers up my spine.
114.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
"We try to rescue everybody."
Um, no.
Um, no.
115.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
I can't wait to hear what she has to say next...:tap:
[I]Memories: I always thought the number of Bill Clinton enemies audited by his Internal Revenue Service was a bit high to be coincidental.* When Clinton accuser Paula Jones was audited in 1997, Clinton’s press secretary Mike McCurry denied White House involvement:
”None whatsoever” … “We may do some dumb things from time to time but we are not certifiably insane,” Mr. McCurry said. ”The I.R.S. and the I.R.S. solely is the one that makes decisions about the enforcement of tax laws.”
We now know, of course, that you don’t need direct White House involvement to politicize the IRS, at least for Democrats.** The underlings know what to do! The idea that they are apolitical professionals was always a myth.*** It’s even more of a myth now, in the era of Daily Kos and Greg Sargent. I wonder if McCurry, now safely through the revolving door, would like to revisit his statement. …
P.S.: According to a Judicial Watch filing, the Clinton enemies audited included
Clinton paramours Gennifer Flowers and Liz Ward Gracen, sexual assault accusers Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick, and fired White House Travel Office Director Billy Dale.
as well as these organizations:
The National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, The National Review, The American Spectator, Freedom Alliance, National Center for Public Policy Research, American Policy Center, American Cause, Citizens Against Government Waste, Citizens for Honest Government, Progress and Freedom Foundation, Concerned Women for America and the San Diego Chapter of Christian Coalition.
[/I]
Read more: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/12/what-about-clintons-irs/#ixzz34piR1nnl[/url]
[I]Memories: I always thought the number of Bill Clinton enemies audited by his Internal Revenue Service was a bit high to be coincidental.* When Clinton accuser Paula Jones was audited in 1997, Clinton’s press secretary Mike McCurry denied White House involvement:
”None whatsoever” … “We may do some dumb things from time to time but we are not certifiably insane,” Mr. McCurry said. ”The I.R.S. and the I.R.S. solely is the one that makes decisions about the enforcement of tax laws.”
We now know, of course, that you don’t need direct White House involvement to politicize the IRS, at least for Democrats.** The underlings know what to do! The idea that they are apolitical professionals was always a myth.*** It’s even more of a myth now, in the era of Daily Kos and Greg Sargent. I wonder if McCurry, now safely through the revolving door, would like to revisit his statement. …
P.S.: According to a Judicial Watch filing, the Clinton enemies audited included
Clinton paramours Gennifer Flowers and Liz Ward Gracen, sexual assault accusers Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick, and fired White House Travel Office Director Billy Dale.
as well as these organizations:
The National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, The National Review, The American Spectator, Freedom Alliance, National Center for Public Policy Research, American Policy Center, American Cause, Citizens Against Government Waste, Citizens for Honest Government, Progress and Freedom Foundation, Concerned Women for America and the San Diego Chapter of Christian Coalition.
[/I]
Read more: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/12/what-about-clintons-irs/#ixzz34piR1nnl[/url]
116.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20952]
According to a Judicial Watch filing, the Clinton enemies audited included
The National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, The National Review, The American Spectator, Freedom Alliance, National Center for Public Policy Research, American Policy Center, American Cause, Citizens Against Government Waste, Citizens for Honest Government, Progress and Freedom Foundation, Concerned Women for America and the San Diego Chapter of Christian Coalition.
[/QUOTE]
Citizens for Honest Government. LOL! "We'll show 'em whose boss."
According to a Judicial Watch filing, the Clinton enemies audited included
The National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, The National Review, The American Spectator, Freedom Alliance, National Center for Public Policy Research, American Policy Center, American Cause, Citizens Against Government Waste, Citizens for Honest Government, Progress and Freedom Foundation, Concerned Women for America and the San Diego Chapter of Christian Coalition.
[/QUOTE]
Citizens for Honest Government. LOL! "We'll show 'em whose boss."
117.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
Dangerous radicals right there...
Hillary should probably have her own thread. :bang:
Deserves it, even. :wink
Hillary should probably have her own thread. :bang:
Deserves it, even. :wink
118.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20954]Dangerous radicals right there...
Hillary should have her own cell. :bang:
Deserves it, even. :wink[/QUOTE]
fixed it
Hillary should have her own cell. :bang:
Deserves it, even. :wink[/QUOTE]
fixed it
119.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
LOL...Cell...Is there a difference between a core cell and a splinter cell?
To dumbasses there is...
....
To dumbasses there is...
....
120.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
:laugh:
121.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
122.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
We should all just go watch the Miami Heats or go to Wrigley Stadium and get away from all this mess. :-)
123.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
124.) bluecat - 06/16/2014
Say what?
125.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
126.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
Jethro Tull and Lynyrd Skynyrd are both nice guys....
127.) Swamp Fox - 06/16/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;20960]We should all just go watch the Miami Heats or go to Wrigley Stadium and get away from all this mess. :-)[/QUOTE]
LOL
LOL
128.) bluecat - 06/17/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;20965]Jethro Tull and Lynyrd Skynyrd are both nice guys....[/QUOTE]
And Tesla, aside from his little inventions, could really shred on his electric guitar.
And Tesla, aside from his little inventions, could really shred on his electric guitar.
129.) bluecat - 06/17/2014
130.) bluecat - 06/17/2014
131.) Swamp Fox - 06/17/2014
Six other people being investigated had computer crashes, too---Who woulda thunk it?---so their emails can't be produced either...LOL...Heard that this morning.
Brilliant move to dump this news during the sleepy summertime. (Supposedly the IRS has "known" about the email "retrieval problem" since February.) Even fewer citizens than normal are paying much attention, and Congress is ramping up to take a break. At least somebody is thinking up there, LOL.
Brilliant move to dump this news during the sleepy summertime. (Supposedly the IRS has "known" about the email "retrieval problem" since February.) Even fewer citizens than normal are paying much attention, and Congress is ramping up to take a break. At least somebody is thinking up there, LOL.
132.) Floyd - 06/17/2014
Gee, I can't wait for ol'Hellery to get in the WH and her put a stop to all this shenanigans. (sarcastically)
133.) Hunter - 06/18/2014
Two thoughts on the whole IRS “losing Lois Lerner’s emails” story: 1) What, exactly, would happen to me if I told the IRS that I just “lost” some important tax documentation? And 2) Can’t the NSA just give Congress their copy? :-)
[url]http://finance.townhall.com/ticker/michaelschaus/2014/06/16/in-other-news-maybe-we-should-just-ask-the-nsa-to-hand-over-lois-lerners-emails-n1852135[/url]
[url]http://finance.townhall.com/ticker/michaelschaus/2014/06/16/in-other-news-maybe-we-should-just-ask-the-nsa-to-hand-over-lois-lerners-emails-n1852135[/url]
134.) DParker - 06/18/2014
[QUOTE=Hunter;21021]1) What, exactly, would happen to me if I told the IRS that I just “lost” some important tax documentation?[/QUOTE]
I don't know for sure, but I'm betting that it would involve a distressing lack of lubrication.
I don't know for sure, but I'm betting that it would involve a distressing lack of lubrication.
135.) bluecat - 06/19/2014
Go green and stay clean
Always recycle your hard drives
Lois Lerner
Always recycle your hard drives
Lois Lerner
136.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
Swampy, you get mad and poop in the urinal again? Awesome what you can do with cake.
137.) Swamp Fox - 06/21/2014
LOL...If I looked down and saw that I'd probably have to switch over to Number Two from laughing so hard...
I wonder if they sell them in bulk? The possibilities around here are endless...
I'd start with the universities first, LOL.
I wonder if they sell them in bulk? The possibilities around here are endless...
I'd start with the universities first, LOL.
138.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
Swampy, urinal cakes. Get it? Never a cake Swampy didn't like.
139.) Swamp Fox - 06/21/2014
Yeah, I got it...The officials may have to deduct from the bonus points you were awarded for the cleverness because of the explanation, though. :wink
It's kind of a gray area. Not everyone is as fluent in bathroom humor as you and I. So the question is: Are we keeping score just for funsies between our small band, or are we competing for the hearts and minds of the general public in a battle to preserve what's good and right about life on this planet?
I'll leave it up to the judges.
It's kind of a gray area. Not everyone is as fluent in bathroom humor as you and I. So the question is: Are we keeping score just for funsies between our small band, or are we competing for the hearts and minds of the general public in a battle to preserve what's good and right about life on this planet?
I'll leave it up to the judges.
140.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
You woke up prissy this morning didn't you? :tap:
Well, of course you did. :-)
Well, of course you did. :-)
141.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
Swampy like...... I'm gunning for you Floyd....
142.) Swamp Fox - 06/21/2014
:-)
:nk:
:nk:
143.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
...and play with cats.
144.) Swamp Fox - 06/21/2014
LOL...
145.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
She's going to complain to the judge that you stink Swampy.....
146.) Floyd - 06/21/2014
Swampy is always in a playful mood.
147.) Swamp Fox - 06/21/2014
148.) Swamp Fox - 06/22/2014
IRS Corruption?
Who could have seen that coming?
Say it ain't so...
Who could have seen that coming?
Say it ain't so...
149.) bluecat - 06/23/2014
[QUOTE=Floyd;21135]Swampy is always in a playful mood.
[/QUOTE]
I've heard he cuts holes in his pockets so he has something to play with.
[/QUOTE]I've heard he cuts holes in his pockets so he has something to play with.
150.) bluecat - 06/26/2014
[url]http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/lois-lerner-irs-chuck-grassley-108322.html[/url]
Lois Lerner sought audit of group invite to GOP Senator
More dirt.
Lois Lerner sought audit of group invite to GOP Senator
More dirt.
151.) Swamp Fox - 06/26/2014
I saw that...
In other news (Read the backstory)...
[url]http://www.viralnova.com/5-year-old-tax-letter/[/url]
In other news (Read the backstory)...
[url]http://www.viralnova.com/5-year-old-tax-letter/[/url]
152.) bluecat - 07/10/2014
Lois Lerner in 2013: ‘Need to be cautious about what we say in emails’
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/09/lois-lerner-in-2013-need-to-be-cautious-about-what-say-in-emails/[/url]
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/09/lois-lerner-in-2013-need-to-be-cautious-about-what-say-in-emails/[/url]
153.) Swamp Fox - 07/10/2014
[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=5]"Perfect!"[/SIZE][/COLOR]
It's always cool to discover technology that can't be traced...LOL
It's always cool to discover technology that can't be traced...LOL
154.) bluecat - 07/10/2014
I'm sending you a smoke signal right now...
155.) Swamp Fox - 07/10/2014
It's a good thing that hammerhead Elija Cummings declared everything settled and closed last year (or maybe very early this year), or none of this would have come out...LOL
Not a smidgeon of corruption.
Not a smidgeon of corruption.
156.) bluecat - 07/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;21714]hammerhead Elija Cummings[/QUOTE]
:applause:
:applause:
157.) bluecat - 07/16/2014
IRS claims six more computers conveniently crashed, wiping out scandal-related emails
[url]http://humanevents.com/2014/06/17/irs-claims-six-more-computers-conveniently-crashed-wiping-out-scandal-related-emails/[/url]
[url]http://humanevents.com/2014/06/17/irs-claims-six-more-computers-conveniently-crashed-wiping-out-scandal-related-emails/[/url]
158.) bluecat - 07/16/2014
[url]http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/what_are_the_odds_these_a.php[/url]
159.) Deerminator - 07/16/2014
oopsy :wink!
160.) bluecat - 07/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;21714]
Not a smidgeon of corruption.[/QUOTE]
Well...I guess that is true...
Not a smidgeon of corruption.[/QUOTE]
Well...I guess that is true...
161.) Swamp Fox - 07/17/2014
This is my favorite comment on Lois Lerner...so far, and excluding stuff I've come up with myself....:wink...Well maybe INCLUDING...:tu:
"Apparently Lois Lerner is a one-woman walking electromagnetic pulse."
-----Jim Geraghty
"Apparently Lois Lerner is a one-woman walking electromagnetic pulse."
-----Jim Geraghty
162.) bluecat - 07/23/2014
House investigators: IRS tech experts say Lerner’s hard drive only 'scratched,' not destroyed
House investigators said Tuesday that the computer hard drive of ex-agency official Lois Lerner -- a key figure in the IRS targeting scandal -- was only “scratched,” not irreparably damaged, as Americans have been led to believe.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/22/house-investigators-irs-tech-experts-say-lerners-hard-drive-only-scratched-not/[/url]
House investigators said Tuesday that the computer hard drive of ex-agency official Lois Lerner -- a key figure in the IRS targeting scandal -- was only “scratched,” not irreparably damaged, as Americans have been led to believe.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/22/house-investigators-irs-tech-experts-say-lerners-hard-drive-only-scratched-not/[/url]
163.) Hunter - 07/23/2014
So, how do you get a scratch on a hard drive without removing it?
164.) bluecat - 07/23/2014
Oh, there are ways.
165.) bluecat - 07/23/2014
Honestly I have no idea. I do know that when the hard drive is spinning and you give the computer a good Chuck Norris roundhouse, you can get the head to collide with the disk. That would give it a good gash. Scratch, hmm, I dunno.
166.) bluecat - 07/23/2014
By the way, his pants cost him 1.00 and he forgot to remove the garage sale tag.
167.) bluecat - 07/31/2014
In the Nov. 9, 2012, email exchange from Ms. Lerner’s official IRS email account, she demonstrates “deep animus towards conservatives, which she refers to as “–holes,” Mr. Camp said.
In one email highlighted by the committee, she wrote, apparently referring to conservative critics of the administration: “So we don’t need to worry about alien teRrorists (sic). It’s our own crazies that will take us down.”
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/30/lois-lerner-hated-conservatives-new-emails-show/[/url]
In other shocking news, diets low in saturated fat and high in fresh fruits and vegetables are healthy.
In one email highlighted by the committee, she wrote, apparently referring to conservative critics of the administration: “So we don’t need to worry about alien teRrorists (sic). It’s our own crazies that will take us down.”
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/30/lois-lerner-hated-conservatives-new-emails-show/[/url]
In other shocking news, diets low in saturated fat and high in fresh fruits and vegetables are healthy.
168.) DParker - 07/31/2014
[URL="http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/07/31/judge-orders-doj-to-release-documents-withheld-from-congress-under-obama-executive-privilege-claim-n1873165"]Judge Orders DOJ to Release Fast and Furious Documents Withheld From Congress Under Obama Executive Privilege Claim[/URL]
I'm betting they were all stored on Lois Lerner's hard drive.
I'm betting they were all stored on Lois Lerner's hard drive.
169.) DParker - 07/31/2014
More good news that ought to enhance your trust in Uncle Sam.
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-director-john-brennan-apologizes-for-search-of-senate-computers/2014/07/31/28004b18-18c6-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html"]CIA director John Brennan apologizes for search of Senate committee’s computers[/URL]
[QUOTE]Brennan’s apology to lawmakers was in sharp contrast to the defiant position he took when the dispute first surfaced publicly in March. At the time, he warned that lawmakers would regret accusing the agency of wrongdoing.
“When the facts come out on this, I think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hacking will be proved wrong,” he said.
Brennan was responding to accusations from Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and others that the CIA had secretly removed documents from committee computers and attempted to intimidate investigators by requesting an FBI inquiry of their conduct.[/QUOTE]
Oops.
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-director-john-brennan-apologizes-for-search-of-senate-computers/2014/07/31/28004b18-18c6-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html"]CIA director John Brennan apologizes for search of Senate committee’s computers[/URL]
[QUOTE]Brennan’s apology to lawmakers was in sharp contrast to the defiant position he took when the dispute first surfaced publicly in March. At the time, he warned that lawmakers would regret accusing the agency of wrongdoing.
“When the facts come out on this, I think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hacking will be proved wrong,” he said.
Brennan was responding to accusations from Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and others that the CIA had secretly removed documents from committee computers and attempted to intimidate investigators by requesting an FBI inquiry of their conduct.[/QUOTE]
Oops.
170.) bluecat - 08/01/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;22732][URL="http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/07/31/judge-orders-doj-to-release-documents-withheld-from-congress-under-obama-executive-privilege-claim-n1873165"]Judge Orders DOJ to Release Fast and Furious Documents Withheld From Congress Under Obama Executive Privilege Claim[/URL]
I'm betting they were all stored on Lois Lerner's hard drive.[/QUOTE]
"This order forces the Obama DOJ, for the first time, to provide a detailed listing of all documents that it has withheld from Congress and the American people for years about the deadly Fast and Furious gun running scandal," Judicial Watch released in a statement.
transparent
I'm betting they were all stored on Lois Lerner's hard drive.[/QUOTE]
"This order forces the Obama DOJ, for the first time, to provide a detailed listing of all documents that it has withheld from Congress and the American people for years about the deadly Fast and Furious gun running scandal," Judicial Watch released in a statement.
transparent
171.) bluecat - 08/01/2014
:grin:
172.) DParker - 08/01/2014
Trey Gowdy at the mic is always must-see TV.
173.) bluecat - 08/01/2014
"Damn, that Trey character carved me up good!"
174.) DParker - 08/01/2014
I would like to take this opportunity to simultaneously thank the people of South Carolina for sending Mr. Gowdy to Congress, and apologize on behalf of most of my fellow Texans for offsetting his vote with Sheila Jackson Lee's. Her stints at the mic are also must-see, albeit for an entirely different reason. Namely, to marvel at the fact that a human being can be that stupid and still avoid being the recipient of a Darwin Award (so far, at least)...
[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/congresswoman-who-co-sponsored-impeachment-bill-of-bush-said-democrats-never-tried-to-impeach-bush-142528358.html"]Congresswoman who co-sponsored Bush impeachment bill said Democrats never tried to impeach Bush[/URL]
[video=youtube_share;LAuFRQpGzL8]http://youtu.be/LAuFRQpGzL8[/video]
[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/congresswoman-who-co-sponsored-impeachment-bill-of-bush-said-democrats-never-tried-to-impeach-bush-142528358.html"]Congresswoman who co-sponsored Bush impeachment bill said Democrats never tried to impeach Bush[/URL]
[video=youtube_share;LAuFRQpGzL8]http://youtu.be/LAuFRQpGzL8[/video]
175.) bluecat - 08/01/2014
:tu:
176.) DParker - 08/07/2014
The gaffe that keeps on giving...
177.) Swamp Fox - 08/07/2014
Yep, LOL...
As I said yesterday, can't blame that on a speak-o!
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.
As I said yesterday, can't blame that on a speak-o!
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.
178.) bluecat - 08/08/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;23094]
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
179.) Floyd - 08/08/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;23094]Yep, LOL...
As I said yesterday, can't blame that on a speak-o!
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.[/QUOTE]
...also a care or even a tiny bit of desire to know.
As I said yesterday, can't blame that on a speak-o!
You have to buy the map before you can know what is on it.[/QUOTE]
...also a care or even a tiny bit of desire to know.
180.) bluecat - 08/08/2014
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/08/key-obamacare-official-likely-deleted-emails-now-sought-in-house-probe/[/url]
More transparency
More transparency
181.) Swamp Fox - 08/08/2014
Yeah, saw that the other day...It's hard to keep up with these clowns at this point. They're cattywampus in all directions; can't see out one ear and blind in the other.
Feel free to put this kind of stuff on the [I]Shameless? Or Obamacare?[/I] thead...That can be a catch-all for gov't BOHICA items or for O-care...whatever...while maintaining the purity and magnificence of the IRS fail here. :wink
[url]http://forums.huntingcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?1222-Shameless-Or-Obamacare[/url]
Feel free to put this kind of stuff on the [I]Shameless? Or Obamacare?[/I] thead...That can be a catch-all for gov't BOHICA items or for O-care...whatever...while maintaining the purity and magnificence of the IRS fail here. :wink
[url]http://forums.huntingcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?1222-Shameless-Or-Obamacare[/url]
182.) bluecat - 08/08/2014
Thanks, I couldn't think of the other threads, but yes, it belongs there.
Earlier I was looking for the bladerunner thread I started long ago but alas it was expunged in the last meltdown. They are going to reach a verdict soon.
Earlier I was looking for the bladerunner thread I started long ago but alas it was expunged in the last meltdown. They are going to reach a verdict soon.
183.) Swamp Fox - 08/08/2014
Well, it's not like I'm the hall monitor or anything...I'd just hate to see this beauty of a thread get diluted. :tu:
Seriously, though, I've had so much to post lately but I don't have the heart right now. The bulllshit is never-ending.
Plus I suspect not everyone wants to see it or talk about it.
Seriously, though, I've had so much to post lately but I don't have the heart right now. The bulllshit is never-ending.
Plus I suspect not everyone wants to see it or talk about it.
184.) bluecat - 08/26/2014
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told FoxNews Monday that attorneys for the IRS have admitted that all of the supposedly lost emails from former IRS employee Lois Lerner are backed up, and that the [B]IRS has not admitted this because they say it would be too hard to dig them out of these backed up files[/B].
Yeah, right.
“A Department of Justice attorney told a Judicial Watch attorney on Friday that it turns out the federal government backs up all computer records in case something terrible happens in Washington,” Fitton said.
:pop:
Yeah, right.
“A Department of Justice attorney told a Judicial Watch attorney on Friday that it turns out the federal government backs up all computer records in case something terrible happens in Washington,” Fitton said.
:pop:
185.) bluecat - 08/27/2014
IRS lawyer: Lois Lerner's BlackBerry deliberately destroyed after start of congressional probe
Lois Lerner’s BlackBerry was intentionally destroyed [B]after[/B] Congress had begun its probe into IRS targeting of conservative groups, a senior IRS lawyer acknowledged in a sworn declaration.
Thomas Kane, Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel for the IRS, wrote in the declaration, part of a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch against the IRS, that the BlackBerry was "removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012."
That date - June 2012 - is significant because by that time, ex-IRS official Lerner had already been summoned before congressional staffers who interviewed her about reports of the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.
"We had already talked to her. Our personal staff and Oversight Committee staff had sat down with Ms. Lerner and confronted her about information we were getting from conservative groups in the state of Ohio and around the country," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, told Fox News.
"If you intentionally destroy evidence, that is a crime. If you make a statement in court saying the evidence is not available and it is, that is also a crime," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
The IRS did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/27/lois-lerner-blackberry-deliberately-destroyed-after-start-congressional-probe/[/url]
Lois Lerner’s BlackBerry was intentionally destroyed [B]after[/B] Congress had begun its probe into IRS targeting of conservative groups, a senior IRS lawyer acknowledged in a sworn declaration.
Thomas Kane, Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel for the IRS, wrote in the declaration, part of a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch against the IRS, that the BlackBerry was "removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012."
That date - June 2012 - is significant because by that time, ex-IRS official Lerner had already been summoned before congressional staffers who interviewed her about reports of the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.
"We had already talked to her. Our personal staff and Oversight Committee staff had sat down with Ms. Lerner and confronted her about information we were getting from conservative groups in the state of Ohio and around the country," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, told Fox News.
"If you intentionally destroy evidence, that is a crime. If you make a statement in court saying the evidence is not available and it is, that is also a crime," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
The IRS did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/27/lois-lerner-blackberry-deliberately-destroyed-after-start-congressional-probe/[/url]
186.) bluecat - 09/08/2014
IRS says it has lost emails from 5 other employees related to probes
The IRS said Friday that it has lost emails from five other employees involved in congressional probes into the agency's targeting of conservative groups, leading one top Republican to declare "this pattern must stop."
The announcement comes after the agency said in June that it could not locate an untold number of emails to and from Lois Lerner, who headed the IRS division that processes applications for tax-exempt status. The revelation set off a new round of investigations and congressional hearings.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/06/irs-says-it-has-lost-emails-from-5-other-employees-related-to-probe/[/url]
The good news is that Obama is going to lay out the strategy for killing Isis very soon. Isis should be very curious how the United States is going to proceed and I'm sure this won't affect the U.S. efforts.
The IRS said Friday that it has lost emails from five other employees involved in congressional probes into the agency's targeting of conservative groups, leading one top Republican to declare "this pattern must stop."
The announcement comes after the agency said in June that it could not locate an untold number of emails to and from Lois Lerner, who headed the IRS division that processes applications for tax-exempt status. The revelation set off a new round of investigations and congressional hearings.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/06/irs-says-it-has-lost-emails-from-5-other-employees-related-to-probe/[/url]
The good news is that Obama is going to lay out the strategy for killing Isis very soon. Isis should be very curious how the United States is going to proceed and I'm sure this won't affect the U.S. efforts.
187.) Swamp Fox - 09/16/2014
In case people missed these two items among all the other shiny objects lately:
Holder Aide at Department of Justice Would Like Democrats' Help Spinning News Before Republicans See It:
[url]http://thehill.com/policy/finance/217129-issa-accuses-doj-of-under-the-table-coordination-with-house-democrats[/url]
DOJ Uncooperative In Locating Former Attorney Who Happened To Be A Lois Lerner Associate at the IRS Before Being Tasked By DOJ To Investigate...wait for it...Lois Lerner and IRS
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/05/gop-lawmaker-demands-doj-hand-over-contact-info-former-employee-linked-to-irs/[/url]
Holder Aide at Department of Justice Would Like Democrats' Help Spinning News Before Republicans See It:
[url]http://thehill.com/policy/finance/217129-issa-accuses-doj-of-under-the-table-coordination-with-house-democrats[/url]
DOJ Uncooperative In Locating Former Attorney Who Happened To Be A Lois Lerner Associate at the IRS Before Being Tasked By DOJ To Investigate...wait for it...Lois Lerner and IRS
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/05/gop-lawmaker-demands-doj-hand-over-contact-info-former-employee-linked-to-irs/[/url]
188.) Swamp Fox - 09/16/2014
"Look at that corruption..."
LOL
Wish I could find that video. I posted it on the forum a while back but can't locate it on youtube or here.
LOL
Wish I could find that video. I posted it on the forum a while back but can't locate it on youtube or here.
189.) bluecat - 09/16/2014
They can't even call war by its name.
“A very significant counter-terrorism operation,” Kerry
Here's a gem from Pelosi
"We have initiated hostilities against ISIS".
Umm...really. I think the beheadings came first.
“A very significant counter-terrorism operation,” Kerry
Here's a gem from Pelosi
"We have initiated hostilities against ISIS".
Umm...really. I think the beheadings came first.
190.) Swamp Fox - 09/16/2014
LOL...Pelosi is just permanently adrift.
She said something even more daft the other day but I don't recall what it was. It's hard to keep up any more....
Oh, and another thing: Pretty sure the Islamic State isn't a bunch of Buddhists and Presbyterians...
She said something even more daft the other day but I don't recall what it was. It's hard to keep up any more....
Oh, and another thing: Pretty sure the Islamic State isn't a bunch of Buddhists and Presbyterians...
191.) DParker - 09/16/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;25356]"Look at that corruption..."
LOL
Wish I could find that video. I posted it on the forum a while back but can't locate it on youtube or here.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube_share;SjbPi00k_ME]http://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME[/video]
LOL
Wish I could find that video. I posted it on the forum a while back but can't locate it on youtube or here.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube_share;SjbPi00k_ME]http://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME[/video]
192.) bluecat - 04/29/2015
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/04/29/irs-watchdog-recovers-thousands-missing-lois-lerner-emails/[/url]
A Treasury Department watchdog has recovered thousands of emails from Lois Lerner and turned them over to Congress, reviving the investigation into the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.
So you're saying there's a chance...
A Treasury Department watchdog has recovered thousands of emails from Lois Lerner and turned them over to Congress, reviving the investigation into the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.
So you're saying there's a chance...
193.) bluecat - 07/30/2015
[url]http://nypost.com/2015/07/26/obamas-pathetic-attempt-to-spin-the-irs-scandal/[/url]
No sooner did President Obama claim last week the IRS scandal was just a mirage than new evidence emerged to show it was anything but.
The conservative group Judicial Watch says documents it obtained “confirm” the agency targeted the donors of certain tax-exempt organizations. And the Government Accountability Office faulted IRS procedures, saying they failed to prevent bias in the selection of nonprofits for audits. That’s key, since the agency has been accused of targeting conservative groups.
Yet here was Obama on the Jon Stewart show denying the IRS did anything wrong.
“The truth of the matter is that there was not some big conspiracy there,” said Obama. “They were trying to sort out these conflicting demands.” Indeed, he added, “the real scandal” is that the agency doesn’t have the money to do more audits. Right.
So did the agency do anything wrong?
You be the judge:
•First, there’s the IRS’ internal auditor charging the agency targeted conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status.
• Then there’s Lois Lerner, the former IRS official at the heart of the scandal, pleading the Fifth and claiming her hard drive crashed, destroying all the evidence.
• Later it turns out the IRS deliberately erased her backups, after the messages were subject to a congressional subpoena.
•And we learn the Justice Department apparently colluded with the IRS, discussing “several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law” against groups “posing” as tax-exempt nonprofits.
No sooner did President Obama claim last week the IRS scandal was just a mirage than new evidence emerged to show it was anything but.
The conservative group Judicial Watch says documents it obtained “confirm” the agency targeted the donors of certain tax-exempt organizations. And the Government Accountability Office faulted IRS procedures, saying they failed to prevent bias in the selection of nonprofits for audits. That’s key, since the agency has been accused of targeting conservative groups.
Yet here was Obama on the Jon Stewart show denying the IRS did anything wrong.
“The truth of the matter is that there was not some big conspiracy there,” said Obama. “They were trying to sort out these conflicting demands.” Indeed, he added, “the real scandal” is that the agency doesn’t have the money to do more audits. Right.
So did the agency do anything wrong?
You be the judge:
•First, there’s the IRS’ internal auditor charging the agency targeted conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status.
• Then there’s Lois Lerner, the former IRS official at the heart of the scandal, pleading the Fifth and claiming her hard drive crashed, destroying all the evidence.
• Later it turns out the IRS deliberately erased her backups, after the messages were subject to a congressional subpoena.
•And we learn the Justice Department apparently colluded with the IRS, discussing “several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law” against groups “posing” as tax-exempt nonprofits.
194.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
This weekend the IRS finally admitted it targeted over 400 conservative groups for intrusive scrutiny.
The Washington Times reported:
The government released names of 426 organizations. Another 40 were not released as part of the list because they had already opted out of being part of the class-action suit.
That total is much higher than the 298 groups the IRS‘ inspector general identified back in May 2013, when investigators first revealed the agency had been subjecting applications to long — potentially illegal — delays, and forcing them to answer intrusive questions about their activities. Tea party and conservative groups said they was the target of unusually heavy investigations and longer delays…
…Sixty of the groups on the list released last month have the word “tea” in their name, 33 have “patriot,” eight refer to the Constitution, and 13 have “912” in their name — which is the monicker of a movement started by conservatives. Another 26 group names refer to “liberty,” though that list does include some groups that are not discernibly conservative in orientation.
In May 2014 a Congressional report revealed 10% of Tea Party donors were audited by the IRS. This is 10 times more often than regular Americans.
The IRS Conservative Targeting Scandal involved:
Hundreds of conservative groups were targeted
At least 5 pro-Israel groups
Constitutional groups
Groups that criticized Obama administration
At least two pro-life groups
An 83 year-old Nazi concentration camp survivor
A 180 year-old Baptist paper
A Texas voting-rights group
A Hollywood conservative group was targeted and harassed
Conservative activists and businesses
At least one conservative Hispanic group
IRS continued to target groups even after the scandal was exposed
10% of Tea Party donors were audited by the IRS
[B]And… 100% of the 501(c)(4) Groups Audited by IRS Were Conservative[/B]
[url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/flashback-obama-said-not-smidgen-corruption-irs-scandal-now-know-400-conservative-groups-targeted/[/url]
The Washington Times reported:
The government released names of 426 organizations. Another 40 were not released as part of the list because they had already opted out of being part of the class-action suit.
That total is much higher than the 298 groups the IRS‘ inspector general identified back in May 2013, when investigators first revealed the agency had been subjecting applications to long — potentially illegal — delays, and forcing them to answer intrusive questions about their activities. Tea party and conservative groups said they was the target of unusually heavy investigations and longer delays…
…Sixty of the groups on the list released last month have the word “tea” in their name, 33 have “patriot,” eight refer to the Constitution, and 13 have “912” in their name — which is the monicker of a movement started by conservatives. Another 26 group names refer to “liberty,” though that list does include some groups that are not discernibly conservative in orientation.
In May 2014 a Congressional report revealed 10% of Tea Party donors were audited by the IRS. This is 10 times more often than regular Americans.
The IRS Conservative Targeting Scandal involved:
Hundreds of conservative groups were targeted
At least 5 pro-Israel groups
Constitutional groups
Groups that criticized Obama administration
At least two pro-life groups
An 83 year-old Nazi concentration camp survivor
A 180 year-old Baptist paper
A Texas voting-rights group
A Hollywood conservative group was targeted and harassed
Conservative activists and businesses
At least one conservative Hispanic group
IRS continued to target groups even after the scandal was exposed
10% of Tea Party donors were audited by the IRS
[B]And… 100% of the 501(c)(4) Groups Audited by IRS Were Conservative[/B]
[url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/flashback-obama-said-not-smidgen-corruption-irs-scandal-now-know-400-conservative-groups-targeted/[/url]
195.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
:tc:
196.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
LOL...The administration would like it to be closed...
Here's one of the more interesting points about this case, at this point. The IRS may have salted their list with a few non-conservative groups ---and I do mean a very few, in comparison--after the investigation started, to deflect from their outrageous focus on conservative groups. Let's see what the administration's apologists have to say about that, since they've been claiming against all evidence and common sense that there was no bias here because "liberal groups were scrutinized too." I call desperate BH on that (Buncha Hooey).
What are the odds someone loses their job, is forced out or is demoted over this?
For someone who gets all his information from the news, the best you can say is Obama certainly has a case of bad timing. You'd think he'd learn either to study more or keep his mouth shut. Just a few days ago, his economic victory lap in Indiana was followed one day later by a horrible jobs report (lowest job growth in something like 5 years, if I recall, and less than 15% of what we need to just keep our heads above water given population changes). And now there's this mirage thing to go along with the older "not a smidgen of corruption" thing. What's a poor boy to do?
It's almost like he doesn't know what's going on. :re:
Per the [I]Washington Times:
[/I]
[I]
That total is much higher than the 298 groups the IRS‘ inspector general identified back in May 2013, when investigators first revealed the agency had been subjecting applications to long — potentially illegal — delays, and forcing them to answer intrusive questions about their activities. Tea party and conservative groups said they was the target of unusually heavy investigations and longer delays,
Edward D. Greim, the lawyer who’s pursuing the case on behalf of NorCal Tea Party Patriots and other members of the class, said the list also could have ballooned toward the end of the targeting as the IRS, once it knew it was being investigated, snagged more liberal groups in its operations to try to soften perceptions of political bias.
"As we have identified in our filings in this case, important questions still exist regarding changes to the IRS‘ case listings that occurred after the IRS learned that the [inspector general] and congressional investigations had begun,” he said. “Based on these changes, which to date remain unexplained, a very real possibility — if not probability — exists that the IRS modified its targeting in light of the investigations, packing its own internal lists of targeted groups to support its preferred narrative, including by adding ideologically diverse groups.”
He said if that did happen, it would have “tainted” the list the IRS has now released.
The IRS declined to comment, saying its filing spoke for itself.
[/I]
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/5/irs-reveals-list-of-tea-party-groups-targeted-for-/[/url]
Here's one of the more interesting points about this case, at this point. The IRS may have salted their list with a few non-conservative groups ---and I do mean a very few, in comparison--after the investigation started, to deflect from their outrageous focus on conservative groups. Let's see what the administration's apologists have to say about that, since they've been claiming against all evidence and common sense that there was no bias here because "liberal groups were scrutinized too." I call desperate BH on that (Buncha Hooey).
What are the odds someone loses their job, is forced out or is demoted over this?
For someone who gets all his information from the news, the best you can say is Obama certainly has a case of bad timing. You'd think he'd learn either to study more or keep his mouth shut. Just a few days ago, his economic victory lap in Indiana was followed one day later by a horrible jobs report (lowest job growth in something like 5 years, if I recall, and less than 15% of what we need to just keep our heads above water given population changes). And now there's this mirage thing to go along with the older "not a smidgen of corruption" thing. What's a poor boy to do?
It's almost like he doesn't know what's going on. :re:
Per the [I]Washington Times:
[/I]
[I]
That total is much higher than the 298 groups the IRS‘ inspector general identified back in May 2013, when investigators first revealed the agency had been subjecting applications to long — potentially illegal — delays, and forcing them to answer intrusive questions about their activities. Tea party and conservative groups said they was the target of unusually heavy investigations and longer delays,
Edward D. Greim, the lawyer who’s pursuing the case on behalf of NorCal Tea Party Patriots and other members of the class, said the list also could have ballooned toward the end of the targeting as the IRS, once it knew it was being investigated, snagged more liberal groups in its operations to try to soften perceptions of political bias.
"As we have identified in our filings in this case, important questions still exist regarding changes to the IRS‘ case listings that occurred after the IRS learned that the [inspector general] and congressional investigations had begun,” he said. “Based on these changes, which to date remain unexplained, a very real possibility — if not probability — exists that the IRS modified its targeting in light of the investigations, packing its own internal lists of targeted groups to support its preferred narrative, including by adding ideologically diverse groups.”
He said if that did happen, it would have “tainted” the list the IRS has now released.
The IRS declined to comment, saying its filing spoke for itself.
[/I]
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/5/irs-reveals-list-of-tea-party-groups-targeted-for-/[/url]
197.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;41581]
What are the odds someone loses their job, is forced out or is demoted over this?
[/QUOTE]
:laugh::laugh:
What are the odds someone loses their job, is forced out or is demoted over this?
[/QUOTE]
:laugh::laugh:
198.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
So you're saying there's a chance?...
LOL
LOL
199.) DParker - 06/07/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;41581]What are the odds someone loses their job, is forced out or is demoted over this?[/QUOTE]
That'll happen right after you win the Powerball with the ticket you bought on your way to pick up Jeri Ryan for a weekend in Vegas.
That'll happen right after you win the Powerball with the ticket you bought on your way to pick up Jeri Ryan for a weekend in Vegas.
200.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
201.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
:-)
Do you all remember that her ex-husband withdrew from his 2004 Illinois senate race because a judge unsealed the couple's divorce/custody records (against the couple's wishes), revealing that her husband was a very naughty boy and was trying to take Jeri along for the ride, and---- wait for it----this paved the way for Barack Obama to win the seat to become the one-term senator who went on to become our transformational president, for some reason?
Do you all remember that her ex-husband withdrew from his 2004 Illinois senate race because a judge unsealed the couple's divorce/custody records (against the couple's wishes), revealing that her husband was a very naughty boy and was trying to take Jeri along for the ride, and---- wait for it----this paved the way for Barack Obama to win the seat to become the one-term senator who went on to become our transformational president, for some reason?
202.) DParker - 06/07/2016
This is now a Jeri Ryan thread. My work here is done.
203.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
Bless you....You are a great American. :grin:
204.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
I believe in American Exceptionalism.
205.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
206.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
You're welcome.
207.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
I don't see any hardware on her left hand Swampy.
208.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
So I'm saying there's a chance.
209.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
She might not wear the ring when she's working the crowd.
Pretty girls are tricky like that, I've found.
Also, I have a Can Cooker. Just sayin'. :wink
Pretty girls are tricky like that, I've found.
Also, I have a Can Cooker. Just sayin'. :wink
210.) bluecat - 06/07/2016
That ain't the only can you were looking at though.
211.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
"What can I say? I'm a can enthusiast! I don't apologize for it!" :grin:
[url]https://www.nationalcar.com/en_US/car-rental/xp/control-enthusiast.html[/url]
[url]https://www.nationalcar.com/en_US/car-rental/xp/control-enthusiast.html[/url]
212.) DParker - 06/07/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;41607]"What can I say? I'm a can enthusiast! I don't apologize for it!" :grin:[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you just lobbed that one right over the plate at me.
[video=youtube;yZX9Rv_2_C0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZX9Rv_2_C0[/video]
I can't believe you just lobbed that one right over the plate at me.
[video=youtube;yZX9Rv_2_C0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZX9Rv_2_C0[/video]
213.) Swamp Fox - 06/07/2016
Really, I can't believe how long it took for someone to take a swing at it...LOL
214.) billy b - 06/07/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;41601][/QUOTE]
There is a ring, that's Eva Shocky married to a pro hockey player.
[/QUOTE]There is a ring, that's Eva Shocky married to a pro hockey player.
215.) DParker - 06/07/2016
[QUOTE=billy b;41610]There is a ring, that's Eva Shocky married to a pro hockey player.[/QUOTE]
Whew! You might have just saved Swampy from one of these guys.
Whew! You might have just saved Swampy from one of these guys.
216.) Swamp Fox - 06/08/2016
LOL...I knew who it was.
I didn't handle it well when I first heard she was off the market, but I'm getting better...
I didn't handle it well when I first heard she was off the market, but I'm getting better...
217.) billy b - 06/08/2016
I heard you were her second choice, be patient the hockey player can't keep up with her.
218.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
[QUOTE=billy b;41610]There is a ring, that's Eva Shocky married to a pro hockey player.[/QUOTE]
I bet she really likes to puck.
I bet she really likes to puck.
219.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
Boo, Hiss
220.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;41601][/QUOTE]
You'd be proud of me. I cropped out dad. :wave:
[/QUOTE]You'd be proud of me. I cropped out dad. :wave:
221.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;41609]Really, I can't believe how long it took for someone to take a swing at it...LOL[/QUOTE]
Richard is also a can enthusiast and was way ahead of his time.
Fitness guru Richard Simmons, who was hospitalized Friday night following reports of “[B]erratic behavior[/B],” was allegedly released from Cedars-Sinai Medical Center on Saturday. But no, that release appears to have been only a clever feint choreographed by his (overly involved)(?) handlers. Because if that was Simmons, who was this blurry fellow tucked into the back seat of a silver sedan on Monday? TMZ is pretty sure:
[url]http://jezebel.com/richard-simmons-has-actually-been-released-from-the-hos-1781168700[/url]
Richard is also a can enthusiast and was way ahead of his time.
Fitness guru Richard Simmons, who was hospitalized Friday night following reports of “[B]erratic behavior[/B],” was allegedly released from Cedars-Sinai Medical Center on Saturday. But no, that release appears to have been only a clever feint choreographed by his (overly involved)(?) handlers. Because if that was Simmons, who was this blurry fellow tucked into the back seat of a silver sedan on Monday? TMZ is pretty sure:
[url]http://jezebel.com/richard-simmons-has-actually-been-released-from-the-hos-1781168700[/url]
222.) Swamp Fox - 06/08/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;41620]“[B]erratic behavior[/B],” [/QUOTE]
LOL:applause:
LOL:applause: