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1.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/06/2013
[url]www.weekendwhitetails.com[/url]
If you'll have any ? please feel free to ask 2.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/06/2013
Any if see anything that needs changed please let me know
3.) bluecat - 05/06/2013
Look pretty cool Dave! Good luck.
4.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/06/2013
I will be adding a parent/child hunt to the website. Getting all the details worked out on the direction we want to go
5.) DParker - 05/06/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5776]Any if see anything that needs changed please let me know[/QUOTE]
Only in the spelling/grammar Nazi department. You might consider correcting some of the text at the bottom of the "Rates" page to read... [QUOTE]A fine of $250 will be enforced for shooting a buck under the 125" minimum using the Boone & Crockett scoring system. We want to harvest only mature deer, and to let the young bucks grow. A 50% non refundable deposit is due at time of booking. We accept PayPal (add 3%), checks, certified checks and money orders. The balance is due upon arrival in the form of cash, money order or certified check. Lodging is your responsibility. Click [url]http://www.athensohio.com/whattodo/wheretostay/[/url] for a listing of local accommodations.[/QUOTE] I haven't gone over the others yet. 6.) Jon - 05/06/2013
[COLOR="#006400"]DP, take your time, there's allot of werds to re-vew. Don't touch it up to muche, the locals won't knew what it say.[/COLOR]
7.) Swamp Fox - 05/06/2013
LOL, Jon...
Dave, if you could use any help proofing, editing or writing content for the website, let me know. :tu: 8.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/06/2013
I needs lots of help. Lol
9.) Dan-o - 05/06/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5787]Only in the spelling/grammar Nazi department. You might consider correcting some of the text at the bottom of the "Rates" page to read...
I haven't gone over the others yet.[/QUOTE] Oops. I missed a section Dave. 10.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/06/2013
Did a Lil more updating. Care to pick it apart as well
11.) DParker - 05/07/2013
I'm not seeing the customary 15% discount for out-of-state hunters from south of the Red River.
12.) Go Bucks - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5822]I'm not seeing the customary 15% discount for out-of-state hunters from south of the Red River.[/QUOTE]
Where is the red river? 13.) Go Bucks - 05/07/2013
Spell check musta got ya.. A few typos and grammar errors... nothing major.
Allowed vs aloud 14.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5822]I'm not seeing the customary 15% discount for out-of-state hunters from south of the Red River.[/QUOTE]
:wave: 15.) billy b - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5784]I will be adding a parent/child hunt to the website. Getting all the details worked out on the direction we want to go[/QUOTE]
Does Jerry count as my child:cf: 16.) crookedeye - 05/07/2013
Is the "pitstop" the only gas station around with an outstanding menu?? lol
17.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
There a couple others.
18.) hoyt_em - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=billy b;5826]Does Jerry count as my child:cf:[/QUOTE]
Ahahahaaaaa, he might count towards the family discount! Dibs on hunting with the lucky azz!! 19.) Jon - 05/07/2013
[COLOR="#006400"]The Pitstop has some great food, well......I ate there with Jess so the scenery was gorgeous....[/COLOR]
20.) DParker - 05/07/2013
Reminds me of the TPWD public land drawn hunt I went on a few years ago at Fort Boggy State Park, which is just off I-45 in the middle of nowhere. After the morning orientation I asked one of the local good-ol' boys where I could find a place to eat some lunch. He said that if I went back out to the interstate and headed south for about a mile I'd find, "the best Jack-In-The-Box in town". I stole that expression from him and still use it to this day.
21.) Swamp Fox - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5831] "the best Jack-In-The-Box in town[/QUOTE]
:-) ..... 22.) Jon - 05/07/2013
[COLOR="#006400"]Ummm, Jack wasn't along for lunch that day[/COLOR]
23.) Bob Peck - 05/07/2013
Suggestions:
A. [B]"The Landscape"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/rules-and-regulations.html[/url] Show pictures of the landscape and preferably many pictures of the landscape. Put them in the same slide show format you used on the "Past Harvest" page. Speaking of that page it's "harvests" as in plural unless there has only been one harvest. It's plural in the header navigation but not on the actual page. Consider a crop and Photoshop of the trail cam pic (re: monster deer used) under the top navigation for this page. It's one thing to keep the image authentic for the trail cam page but if you're using it as a graphical element (i.e. deer porn) it should be the best it can be. B. [B]"About Us"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/about-us.html[/url] Excellent photo! Beautiful photo except for the big pie-faced mook in camo. People respond to pictures of other people before they actually read. If there is at least one or two other endearing photos embed them in the written narrative. I'd also suggest a few words about why you started this business, philosophies and how it all came together. Besides people responding to pictures of other people they also respond with their wallets to a good and true story. C. [B]Consider a tag line[/B] ("Not Just Your Average Saturday & Sunday", "My name is Dave. My wife is the brains of the operation.") something to reinforce the WW brand or what it is you stand for. A stylized logo (betting it's already in the works) would also help. Although this sounds easy (it's not) it takes considerable time and effort to get something good that reproduces well on letterhead as well as banners and T-shirts. D. [B]Drugs and alcohol. [/B] You shouldn't have to saw a word about either but you might as well get it out there in terms of the rules while people are on your property. E. [B]The name of the operation[/B] suggests you're only booking weekend hunts. If this is not true you MUST spell that out. If it is true you should provide a Fri-Sun description of arrival, etc. F. [B]Your hunters will fly and/or drive. [/B] Help them figure out logistics by providing maps, drive times, license requirements and providing answers about picking them up at the airport,etc. Likewise, instead of basically saying Athens is over yonder go find yourself a place to sleep actually do the homework and make recommendations and/or get special room rates with the hotels for your hunters. The hotel will appreciate the referrals and your hunters will appreciate the discount no matter how small. G. [B]You may want to consider an FAQ[/B] (frequently asked question) page wherein people concerned over the number of hunters allowed on the property at any given time, refund policy, the proximity of stands to the dairy operation, liability insurance, what is there to do after the hunt is over, etc, etc. I realize some of this information is scattered throughout the site but the point here is to aggregate it all into one common area. H. [B]Contact Us[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/contact-us.html[/url] You're limiting the number of potential inquiries and the opportunity to sell the hunts by *not* listing a phone #. I think I understand why you may have omitted the tel numbers but there are other ways to skin the cat such as adding a line to your existing plan and forwarding it when you have time to field calls. Also on this page are "artifacts" which are random, nonsense characters. I'm seeing them under the blue on black emails for you and Jess (change this to white on black for legibility) and the artifacts read ${Officehours}. I suspect this is a page coding syntax error that is easily corrected. I. [B]Homepage[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/[/url] Consider either an aerial of your farm or a nice panoramic image of the farm. Something sweeping and epic looking that truly is more of a welcome image. I also think you could do with some word-smithing on the welcome text and add a call to action like "Book Now!" which links to the "Contact Us" page. Hope this helps! 24.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Bob Peck;5837]Suggestions:
A. [B]"The Landscape"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/rules-and-regulations.html[/url] Show pictures of the landscape and preferably many pictures of the landscape. Put them in the same slide show format you used on the "Past Harvest" page. Speaking of that page it's "harvests" as in plural unless there has only been one harvest. It's plural in the header navigation but not on the actual page. Consider a crop and Photoshop of the trail cam pic (re: monster deer used) under the top navigation for this page. It's one thing to keep the image authentic for the trail cam page but if you're using it as a graphical element (i.e. deer porn) it should be the best it can be. B. [B]"About Us"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/about-us.html[/url] Excellent photo! Beautiful photo except for the big pie-faced mook in camo. People respond to pictures of other people before they actually read. If there is at least one or two other endearing photos embed them in the written narrative. I'd also suggest a few words about why you started this business, philosophies and how it all came together. Besides people responding to pictures of other people they also respond with their wallets to a good and true story. C. [B]Consider a tag line[/B] ("Not Just Your Average Saturday & Sunday", "My name is Dave. My wife is the brains of the operation.") something to reinforce the WW brand or what it is you stand for. A stylized logo (betting it's already in the works) would also help. Although this sounds easy (it's not) it takes considerable time and effort to get something good that reproduces well on letterhead as well as banners and T-shirts. D. [B]Drugs and alcohol. [/B] You shouldn't have to saw a word about either but you might as well get it out there in terms of the rules while people are on your property. E. [B]The name of the operation[/B] suggests you're only booking weekend hunts. If this is not true you MUST spell that out. If it is true you should provide a Fri-Sun description of arrival, etc. F. [B]Your hunters will fly and/or drive. [/B] Help them figure out logistics by providing maps, drive times, license requirements and providing answers about picking them up at the airport,etc. Likewise, instead of basically saying Athens is over yonder go find yourself a place to sleep actually do the homework and make recommendations and/or get special room rates with the hotels for your hunters. The hotel will appreciate the referrals and your hunters will appreciate the discount no matter how small. G. [B]You may want to consider an FAQ[/B] (frequently asked question) page wherein people concerned over the number of hunters allowed on the property at any given time, refund policy, the proximity of stands to the dairy operation, liability insurance, what is there to do after the hunt is over, etc, etc. I realize some of this information is scattered throughout the site but the point here is to aggregate it all into one common area. H. [B]Contact Us[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/contact-us.html[/url] You're limiting the number of potential inquiries and the opportunity to sell the hunts by *not* listing a phone #. I think I understand why you may have omitted the tel numbers but there are other ways to skin the cat such as adding a line to your existing plan and forwarding it when you have time to field calls. Also on this page are "artifacts" which are random, nonsense characters. I'm seeing them under the blue on black emails for you and Jess (change this to white on black for legibility) and the artifacts read ${Officehours}. I suspect this is a page coding syntax error that is easily corrected. I. [B]Homepage[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/[/url] Consider either an aerial of your farm or a nice panoramic image of the farm. Something sweeping and epic looking that truly is more of a welcome image. I also think you could do with some word-smithing on the welcome text and add a call to action like "Book Now!" which links to the "Contact Us" page. Hope this helps![/QUOTE] When you say landscape pics are you talking pictures of foodplots, stand views, or all in all general of the land. On the trail cam pics are you saying crop out everything besides the deer or saying take some of the smaller up and comers out of it. On the aerial photo would it be ok to use google earth. I have one of those outlined of the property. 25.) Ventilator - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Bob Peck;5837]Suggestions:
A. [B]"The Landscape"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/rules-and-regulations.html[/url] Show pictures of the landscape and preferably many pictures of the landscape. Put them in the same slide show format you used on the "Past Harvest" page. Speaking of that page it's "harvests" as in plural unless there has only been one harvest. It's plural in the header navigation but not on the actual page. Consider a crop and Photoshop of the trail cam pic (re: monster deer used) under the top navigation for this page. It's one thing to keep the image authentic for the trail cam page but if you're using it as a graphical element (i.e. deer porn) it should be the best it can be. B. [B]"About Us"[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/about-us.html[/url] Excellent photo! Beautiful photo except for the big pie-faced mook in camo. People respond to pictures of other people before they actually read. If there is at least one or two other endearing photos embed them in the written narrative. I'd also suggest a few words about why you started this business, philosophies and how it all came together. Besides people responding to pictures of other people they also respond with their wallets to a good and true story. C. [B]Consider a tag line[/B] ("Not Just Your Average Saturday & Sunday", "My name is Dave. My wife is the brains of the operation.") something to reinforce the WW brand or what it is you stand for. A stylized logo (betting it's already in the works) would also help. Although this sounds easy (it's not) it takes considerable time and effort to get something good that reproduces well on letterhead as well as banners and T-shirts. D. [B]Drugs and alcohol. [/B] You shouldn't have to saw a word about either but you might as well get it out there in terms of the rules while people are on your property. E. [B]The name of the operation[/B] suggests you're only booking weekend hunts. If this is not true you MUST spell that out. If it is true you should provide a Fri-Sun description of arrival, etc. F. [B]Your hunters will fly and/or drive. [/B] Help them figure out logistics by providing maps, drive times, license requirements and providing answers about picking them up at the airport,etc. Likewise, instead of basically saying Athens is over yonder go find yourself a place to sleep actually do the homework and make recommendations and/or get special room rates with the hotels for your hunters. The hotel will appreciate the referrals and your hunters will appreciate the discount no matter how small. G. [B]You may want to consider an FAQ[/B] (frequently asked question) page wherein people concerned over the number of hunters allowed on the property at any given time, refund policy, the proximity of stands to the dairy operation, liability insurance, what is there to do after the hunt is over, etc, etc. I realize some of this information is scattered throughout the site but the point here is to aggregate it all into one common area. H. [B]Contact Us[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/contact-us.html[/url] You're limiting the number of potential inquiries and the opportunity to sell the hunts by *not* listing a phone #. I think I understand why you may have omitted the tel numbers but there are other ways to skin the cat such as adding a line to your existing plan and forwarding it when you have time to field calls. Also on this page are "artifacts" which are random, nonsense characters. I'm seeing them under the blue on black emails for you and Jess (change this to white on black for legibility) and the artifacts read ${Officehours}. I suspect this is a page coding syntax error that is easily corrected. I. [B]Homepage[/B] [url]http://www.weekendwhitetails.com/[/url] Consider either an aerial of your farm or a nice panoramic image of the farm. Something sweeping and epic looking that truly is more of a welcome image. I also think you could do with some word-smithing on the welcome text and add a call to action like "Book Now!" which links to the "Contact Us" page. Hope this helps![/QUOTE] What he said! :wave: It is for sure improving. Im with Dan-O in that i really didnt pick it apart when i looked it over the first time. These are all excellent points that Bob addressed above and will set you apart from the average goober online. Looking good so far. 26.) bluecat - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Bob Peck;5837]Suggestions:
[B]The name of the operation[/B] suggests you're only booking weekend hunts. If this is not true you MUST spell that out. If it is true you should provide a Fri-Sun description of arrival, etc. [/QUOTE] One thing I thought about Dave and Bob kinda hit on this. If you ever think you might expand to week hunts, your name will not depict this. Don't paint yourself in a corner. Once you are branded as "weekendwhitetails" or whatever you decide to be, you will have a hard time being something other than that. 27.) bluecat - 05/07/2013
You don't want to pull a Mathews and downgrade any system that isn't single cam and then try and launch a campaign where dual cam bows work good too... :wink
28.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
I wanna mainly go for 3 day hunts. When I did this adventure before I was asked a few times about doing a 5 day hunt. Of course at that time I couldn't because of work. Now that's no my a problem I wanna open up more options for the hunters. I understand our name is going to throw off a few but I personally like the name and its catchy. Lets face it most of us are weekend worriers in the woods any way. That's IMO. I will be going over a changing a few things though.
29.) DParker - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5846]Lets face it most of us are weekend worriers in the woods any way.[/QUOTE]
Just for that I'm going to show up on a Tuesday. 30.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
That's fine with me. I will be JOBLESS on Friday.... :)
31.) DParker - 05/07/2013
So I guess that means I should bring beer.
32.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
:hb: I have that.
33.) DParker - 05/07/2013
You do know that Bud/Miller/Coors/Schlitz/Hamm's don't count as "beer"....right?
34.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
Yuengling
35.) Go Bucks - 05/07/2013
I have to agree with the weekend thing... the perception is limiting. If you do use it, you must have a big notice on the splash page saying something like.. "where every day is a weekend. Book any day you like."
36.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/07/2013
I like that Barry
37.) DParker - 05/07/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5854]Yuengling[/QUOTE]
That works. 38.) Go Bucks - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5857]That works.[/QUOTE]
OHBH... you need to work on luring DP up here for the inaugural opening. mention some other obscure micro beers, a nice bottle of bourbon, a party favor magpul, plus have a chili contest for him to prove his worth. no Texan in their right mind could pass up that bait. heads up.. have a few oxygen bottles at the stands in case he sees a few monsters. 39.) DParker - 05/08/2013
OK...but where are you going to find anyone in Ohio who knows how to make chili?
40.) Go Bucks - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5859]OK...but where are you going to find anyone in Ohio who knows how to make chili?[/QUOTE]
this is your chance to educate us mere mortals used to making bean soup. 41.) DParker - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=Go Bucks;5860]this is your chance to educate us mere mortals used to making bean soup.[/QUOTE]
In y'all's case (how often do you get to use TWO apostrophes in a single word?) it isn't even so much the beans. That level of chili ignorance can be dealt with. But when you're putting boiled beef and cinnamon in your soup, pouring it over spaghetti and calling the resulting mess "chili" then I think that might fall outside my ability to correct. But we're off into Podunk territory now. 42.) Go Bucks - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5861]In y'all's case (how often do you get to use TWO apostrophes in a single word?) it isn't even so much the beans. That level of chili ignorance can be dealt with. But when you're putting boiled beef and cinnamon in your soup, pouring it over spaghetti and calling the resulting mess "chili" then I think that might fall outside my ability to correct.
But we're off into Podunk territory now.[/QUOTE] that is Greek Chili and dates back eons... Plato wrote about it and how much he enjoyed it... (ok... that's a stretch) 43.) DParker - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=Go Bucks;5862]that is Greek Chili and dates back eons... Plato wrote about it and how much he enjoyed it...
(ok... that's a stretch)[/QUOTE] Yeah. You know what else the Greeks are famous for? 44.) bluecat - 05/08/2013
[QUOTE=DParker;5865]Yeah. You know what else the Greeks are famous for?[/QUOTE]
Parties? Roadtrips? Wet T-shirt contests? 45.) Jon - 05/08/2013
[COLOR="#006400"]Dave, Bob Peck gave great advice and allot of it. Digest it slowly and take advantage of his years of market research, it's worth GOLD and very few people know this much and the ones who do will charge you an arm and a Jess for it.
My personal opinion beyond his advice, DO NOT post a google earth image of the property. They contain lat/long info and the last thing you need are yahoos figuring out where your hot stands are and going in there when you aren't around. If you must use a google earth image, MAKE sure you crop out the lat/long and name it something else while saving it in a different format so there's no information on the photo "properties" to allow people to easily punch the location into their GPS and find your place. Now, about charging an arm and a Jess......[/COLOR] 46.) luv2bowhunt - 05/08/2013
Looks like fun. Not sure I could handle the abundance of quality deer and lack of human competition.:tu:
I'd listen to what Bob P. says, because he's semi-professional in this kind of stuff. Some pics of Jess splashed around every so often couldn't hurt the ratings either. Keep your face off as much as possible. :wink 47.) Bob Peck - 05/09/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5840]When you say landscape pics are you talking pictures of foodplots, stand views, or all in all general of the land.[/QUOTE]I'm talking your land. Images someone will recognized during their orientation. Images that say "Man! Nice property."
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5840]On the trail cam pics are you saying crop out everything besides the deer or saying take some of the smaller up and comers out of it.[/QUOTE] Nope. Homepage image of deer with wicked red eye (or in the case of deer, white eye) [url]http://weekendwhitetails.com/[/url]. This image is the anchor on the homepage and all sub pages. Make the image as good as you can get it. This may not be possible if it's a low resolution image but if it's not there's no reason why someone with reasonable Photoshop skills can't make it perty. [QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5840]On the aerial photo would it be ok to use google earth. I have one of those outlined of the prop[/QUOTE] If that's all you have then sure but like Jon suggests edit out the lon/lat and make sure it's of sufficient size as to be legible. I study Google Earth images for hours and hours especially when hunting new locations or states I've not hunted before. Word of warning though ... Since I've not seen your property make sure that perceived negatives like neighbor out buildings, proximity of farm buildings to stand locations, access roads with trucks parked on them, etc are not in the image. You want the same thing in the Google Earth image as you do with your panoramic images of the farm. It's bait. P.S Tell Jess she did a great job bringing a great looking child into this world despite what she had to work with. You guys are blessed. :laugh: 48.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/09/2013
[QUOTE=Bob Peck;5877]I'm talking your land. Images someone will recognized during their orientation. Images that say "Man! Nice property."
Nope. Homepage image of deer with wicked red eye (or in the case of deer, white eye) [url]http://weekendwhitetails.com/[/url]. This image is the anchor on the homepage and all sub pages. Make the image as good as you can get it. This may not be possible if it's a low resolution image but if it's not there's no reason why someone with reasonable Photoshop skills can't make it perty. If that's all you have then sure but like Jon suggests edit out the lon/lat and make sure it's of sufficient size as to be legible. I study Google Earth images for hours and hours especially when hunting new locations or states I've not hunted before. Word of warning though ... Since I've not seen your property make sure that perceived negatives like neighbor out buildings, proximity of farm buildings to stand locations, access roads with trucks parked on them, etc are not in the image. You want the same thing in the Google Earth image as you do with your panoramic images of the farm. It's bait. P.S Tell Jess she did a great job bringing a great looking child into this world despite what she had to work with. You guys are blessed. :laugh:[/QUOTE] Bob Everything you have shared with me for the past few years has meant more to me than words can disgripe. There's a tons more I need to do but I've got allot of things done thanks to a few of you guys helping a brother out. 49.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/09/2013
N Jess. Well. I'm a lucky man. She is blind so don't let her in on me not being good looking.
50.) Go Bucks - 05/09/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5879]She is blind so don't let her in on me not being good looking.[/QUOTE]
gotta love a blind lady who can out shoot and out hunt her goober hubby.. 51.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/09/2013
And all his buddy's.
52.) Go Bucks - 05/09/2013
[QUOTE=Ohbuckhunter;5883]And all his buddy's.[/QUOTE]
uhhhhhh... yea :tap: 53.) Ohbuckhunter - 05/13/2013
Still going through a changing some stuff and adding to other.
54.) Ohbuckhunter - 06/02/2013
What logo do you like better.
55.) DParker - 06/02/2013
I vote for the 2nd logo. It's easier to read and is more space efficient, which will work better for you in the widest array of applications for it.
56.) Jag - 06/02/2013
Ditto DP's statement.
57.) Go Bucks - 06/03/2013
#2 by a landslide
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