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1.) Swamp Fox - 11/16/2020
Go ...
2.) bluecat - 11/16/2020
Horse, tree saddle or shopping for some marital aids?
3.) Swamp Fox - 11/16/2020
I just posted the topic.
I'm not responsible for where it goes from there.
That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it ...
I'm not responsible for where it goes from there.
That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it ...
4.) crookedeye - 11/17/2020
a guy that went hunting with us this yr had one.. he had some heavy ass sticks then he was talkin about getting a platform for it.
5.) Swamp Fox - 11/17/2020
LOL ...
If I ever get into it, it would be without sticks. Otherwise the whole idea of a lightweight set-up is destroyed.
I'd really like to skip the platform, too, but I just don't see how that's not making a hunting trip into a torture session. I have a few old stand platforms or stand seats I might could make into platforms before buying any new gear.
There is a one-stick climbing method, but it's brutal. Not gonna happen in the sunny South during deer season, or with my knees. There's also a two-stick technique which is slightly more sensible but not enough to make me really consider it.
If I ever get into it, it would be without sticks. Otherwise the whole idea of a lightweight set-up is destroyed.
I'd really like to skip the platform, too, but I just don't see how that's not making a hunting trip into a torture session. I have a few old stand platforms or stand seats I might could make into platforms before buying any new gear.
There is a one-stick climbing method, but it's brutal. Not gonna happen in the sunny South during deer season, or with my knees. There's also a two-stick technique which is slightly more sensible but not enough to make me really consider it.
6.) luv2bowhunt - 11/23/2020
My first buck from the saddle. I ignored everything you told me to do, that was the key to my success. :ach:
I used a saddle, I scouted during the season and moved to where the fresh sign was, and I was only 18 ft. up the tree. Remember kids, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. :-)
I used a saddle, I scouted during the season and moved to where the fresh sign was, and I was only 18 ft. up the tree. Remember kids, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. :-)
7.) luv2bowhunt - 11/23/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62310]If I ever get into it, it would be without sticks. Otherwise the whole idea of a lightweight set-up is destroyed.[/QUOTE]
Really I don't follow you on this at all. Tethrd is coming out with the Tethrd One sticks, 18" long, weigh less than a lb. each. Timber Ninja has a 20" stick you can get with a built in aider, weighs 1.2 lbs. With the Tethrd stick I could also use my Knaider, that will eliminate a stick completely, probably only need 4 to get to 20 feet.
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:
Really I don't follow you on this at all. Tethrd is coming out with the Tethrd One sticks, 18" long, weigh less than a lb. each. Timber Ninja has a 20" stick you can get with a built in aider, weighs 1.2 lbs. With the Tethrd stick I could also use my Knaider, that will eliminate a stick completely, probably only need 4 to get to 20 feet.
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:
8.) bluecat - 11/23/2020
Well, well well, congratulations soldier. Is this what Madame Sophie predicted?
9.) Swamp Fox - 11/23/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62341]My first buck from the saddle. I ignored everything you told me to do, that was the key to my success. :ach:
I used a saddle, I scouted during the season and moved to where the fresh sign was, and I was only 18 ft. up the tree. Remember kids, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. :-)
[/QUOTE]
LOL ... Congratulations. Very nice. :beer:
I used a saddle, I scouted during the season and moved to where the fresh sign was, and I was only 18 ft. up the tree. Remember kids, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. :-)
[/QUOTE]LOL ... Congratulations. Very nice. :beer:
10.) Swamp Fox - 11/23/2020
Pretty good picture, too.
I like how you stuck the tongue back in.
I like how you stuck the tongue back in.
11.) Swamp Fox - 11/23/2020
Also, you look a lot older than the last time I saw you ... :poke:
:wave:
:wave:
12.) Swamp Fox - 11/23/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62342]Really I don't follow you on this at all. Tethrd is coming out with the Tethrd One sticks, 18" long, weigh less than a lb. each. Timber Ninja has a 20" stick you can get with a built in aider, weighs 1.2 lbs. With the Tethrd stick I could also use my Knaider, that will eliminate a stick completely, probably only need 4 to get to 20 feet.
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:[/QUOTE]
I'm slowly gathering ammunition for my argument. :wink It will work against me if some of the new stuff is significantly reduced in weight. We'll wait until the ATA show? (Will there be an ATA show? --Freakin' Wuhanians ....)
As far as scouting during the season goes, it's tricky. You're either a few days behind the action, or screwing up the action by intruding. I have very rarely killed a buck by discovering him mid-season by his sign.
Discovering *deer* sign and sitting over it hoping that does will pull a buck in is a slightly different story. But even that is most often hit-or-miss during the rut.
It seems to me that "mind-reading" buck behavior and using terrain and previously-acquired knowledge of the territory is a higher-odds proposition to kill decent bucks consistently, at least on public land or even private that you are sharing.
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:[/QUOTE]
I'm slowly gathering ammunition for my argument. :wink It will work against me if some of the new stuff is significantly reduced in weight. We'll wait until the ATA show? (Will there be an ATA show? --Freakin' Wuhanians ....)
As far as scouting during the season goes, it's tricky. You're either a few days behind the action, or screwing up the action by intruding. I have very rarely killed a buck by discovering him mid-season by his sign.
Discovering *deer* sign and sitting over it hoping that does will pull a buck in is a slightly different story. But even that is most often hit-or-miss during the rut.
It seems to me that "mind-reading" buck behavior and using terrain and previously-acquired knowledge of the territory is a higher-odds proposition to kill decent bucks consistently, at least on public land or even private that you are sharing.
13.) luv2bowhunt - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62350]As far as scouting during the season goes, it's tricky. You're either a few days behind the action, or screwing up the action by intruding. I have very rarely killed a buck by discovering him mid-season by his sign.[/QUOTE]
Not sure what experiences have led you to that conclusion, because I probably don't understand everything about where you're hunting. But that is the opposite of my experiences. I've had great success scouting during the season and moving around.
I can think of a couple I've killed right off the top of my head. I wouldn't have had either one of these bucks without making a late season move.
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Probably could add a couple more if I could find pics of them. And there are at least a dozen others I could've killed if everything had gone right. But don't take my advice, you never do anyway. I'm guessing you've never watched The Hunting Public on YouTube.
I luv those guys because they're doing it right and they're doing it mostly on public land. They hunt the way I always have, I just didn't know I was doing something different than most other guys. But maybe it's different down in Tarheel land, I don't know. I only know the hills of PA.
And I know this. When you go to the same hunting spot, walking in and out the same way, time after time, deer know it. The mature deer will learn quickly to avoid those areas. I believe using the saddle increases my ability to be more mobile, it certainly was easier bouncing around this year than using a treestand was in prior years.
"But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."
Not sure what experiences have led you to that conclusion, because I probably don't understand everything about where you're hunting. But that is the opposite of my experiences. I've had great success scouting during the season and moving around.
I can think of a couple I've killed right off the top of my head. I wouldn't have had either one of these bucks without making a late season move.
Probably could add a couple more if I could find pics of them. And there are at least a dozen others I could've killed if everything had gone right. But don't take my advice, you never do anyway. I'm guessing you've never watched The Hunting Public on YouTube.
I luv those guys because they're doing it right and they're doing it mostly on public land. They hunt the way I always have, I just didn't know I was doing something different than most other guys. But maybe it's different down in Tarheel land, I don't know. I only know the hills of PA.
And I know this. When you go to the same hunting spot, walking in and out the same way, time after time, deer know it. The mature deer will learn quickly to avoid those areas. I believe using the saddle increases my ability to be more mobile, it certainly was easier bouncing around this year than using a treestand was in prior years.
"But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."
14.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
I used to do a lot of in-season scouting and found that all I was doing was boogering up previously pristine territory. I did more of it during gun season than during bow season, so that may have something to do with my results. Trail cameras have helped a little, but you still need to operate on instinct and intrude to check them unless you've made the leap to remote viewing.
I rarely hunt stands without a rest between visits, and agree with you about deer patterning the hunter who slips into a routine.
Also, are we talking about finding fresh deer sign or fresh *buck* sign leading to a new set?
I rarely hunt stands without a rest between visits, and agree with you about deer patterning the hunter who slips into a routine.
Also, are we talking about finding fresh deer sign or fresh *buck* sign leading to a new set?
15.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62342]Really I don't follow you on this at all. Tethrd is coming out with the Tethrd One sticks, 18" long, weigh less than a lb. each. Timber Ninja has a 20" stick you can get with a built in aider, weighs 1.2 lbs. With the Tethrd stick I could also use my Knaider, that will eliminate a stick completely, probably only need 4 to get to 20 feet.
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
While looking up the Timber Ninja stuff I enjoyed a post on one forum scolding everyone for questioning the efficacy of carbon fiber sticks (which have yet to appear commercially in any volume, and not at all yet IRL from Timber Ninja as far as I know).
Apparently when you're a saddle hunter you're supposed to be relentlessly optimistic about the latest and greatest gear even if it might possibly be a teensy bit fragile, and you must be willing to go where no man has gone before.
:omg:
Otherwise, your value to "the saddle-hunting community" (this is a thing, apparently, or at least someone's trying really hard to make it happen) is suspect and you should probably be drummed out of the corps. :shocked:
I'll find the post again and put it up if anyone wants a giggle ...
But anyhoo .... Thanks for the heads-up, Luv. :tu::beer:
You can also get a small lightweight platform that weighs less than 2 lbs. You can make this as lightweight as you need to.
If you don't want to move around, but want to keep going to your same old tired stands just do it, we don't need you in the saddle hunting community. :grin:[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
While looking up the Timber Ninja stuff I enjoyed a post on one forum scolding everyone for questioning the efficacy of carbon fiber sticks (which have yet to appear commercially in any volume, and not at all yet IRL from Timber Ninja as far as I know).
Apparently when you're a saddle hunter you're supposed to be relentlessly optimistic about the latest and greatest gear even if it might possibly be a teensy bit fragile, and you must be willing to go where no man has gone before.
:omg:
Otherwise, your value to "the saddle-hunting community" (this is a thing, apparently, or at least someone's trying really hard to make it happen) is suspect and you should probably be drummed out of the corps. :shocked:
I'll find the post again and put it up if anyone wants a giggle ...
But anyhoo .... Thanks for the heads-up, Luv. :tu::beer:
16.) luv2bowhunt - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62355]Also, are we talking about finding fresh deer sign or fresh *buck* sign leading to a new set?[/QUOTE]
Well, first deer in picture above, it was fresh rubs and scrapes. Hadn't seen much of that until I stumbled into this spot, was tore up with scrapes. Sat the first sit, fine tuned my stand on the second sit. Killed him on Nov. 5 or 6.
The big buck was a beaten down path with big tracks and big rubs. He had been using this for awhile, I hadn't hunted in this area for 5 years or so, but seeing the sign I setup and killed him 15 minutes later. That was Nov. 9.
This years buck it was fresh scrapes on a trail coming down a point that intersected all the cross hill trails. When you see those straight line trails with scrapes at the intersections of other trails, I've learned those are likely buck cruising trails. They can move in a straight line and check any doe that may have went along the hill on the other trails. Also lots of fresh rubs.
Setup on a similar trail on the Sunday before and was an arrow deflection away from killing a much bigger buck. He left with a scar to remember our first, and most likely only, meeting.
Well, first deer in picture above, it was fresh rubs and scrapes. Hadn't seen much of that until I stumbled into this spot, was tore up with scrapes. Sat the first sit, fine tuned my stand on the second sit. Killed him on Nov. 5 or 6.
The big buck was a beaten down path with big tracks and big rubs. He had been using this for awhile, I hadn't hunted in this area for 5 years or so, but seeing the sign I setup and killed him 15 minutes later. That was Nov. 9.
This years buck it was fresh scrapes on a trail coming down a point that intersected all the cross hill trails. When you see those straight line trails with scrapes at the intersections of other trails, I've learned those are likely buck cruising trails. They can move in a straight line and check any doe that may have went along the hill on the other trails. Also lots of fresh rubs.
Setup on a similar trail on the Sunday before and was an arrow deflection away from killing a much bigger buck. He left with a scar to remember our first, and most likely only, meeting.
17.) luv2bowhunt - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62356]While looking up the Timber Ninja stuff I enjoyed a post on one forum scolding everyone for questioning the efficacy of carbon fiber sticks (which have yet to appear commercially in any volume, and not yet at all from Timber Ninja as far as I know).[/QUOTE]
That Timber Ninja Outdoors stuff is from NC.....so you know it's junk.
That Timber Ninja Outdoors stuff is from NC.....so you know it's junk.
18.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
LOL ...
19.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62357]
Setup on a similar trail on the Sunday before and was an arrow deflection away from killing a much bigger buck. He left with a scar to remember our first, and most lilkely only, meeting.[/QUOTE]
You're lucky ... We're still dreaming about hunting public land on Sundays.
Setup on a similar trail on the Sunday before and was an arrow deflection away from killing a much bigger buck. He left with a scar to remember our first, and most lilkely only, meeting.[/QUOTE]
You're lucky ... We're still dreaming about hunting public land on Sundays.
20.) bluecat - 11/24/2020
lol, +3
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.
21.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
Hope you get that other buck next year. :tu:
Quick impression: You're finding much more, fresher and more concentrated sign and buck movement during your bow season than I am, and your buck travel routes are more predictable. This could be a function of any number of things.
If NC hadn't screwed up the bow season years ago, I'd be more inclined to go looking for new public land from what I'm used to, with the idea that the grass is always greener somewhere else and that there are harder-to access areas out there for me to discover.
I would also be hoping to find area deer dynamics that lend themselves to lots of scrapes and rubs. I am not sure we're not at the low end of the spectrum with regards to bucks' need to leave highly visible sign here in the eastern and middle part of the state.
Quick impression: You're finding much more, fresher and more concentrated sign and buck movement during your bow season than I am, and your buck travel routes are more predictable. This could be a function of any number of things.
If NC hadn't screwed up the bow season years ago, I'd be more inclined to go looking for new public land from what I'm used to, with the idea that the grass is always greener somewhere else and that there are harder-to access areas out there for me to discover.
I would also be hoping to find area deer dynamics that lend themselves to lots of scrapes and rubs. I am not sure we're not at the low end of the spectrum with regards to bucks' need to leave highly visible sign here in the eastern and middle part of the state.
22.) Swamp Fox - 11/24/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62361]lol, +3
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about a saddle or one of the sticks?
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about a saddle or one of the sticks?
23.) DParker - 11/24/2020
Nice! So you didn't even dismount from your horse before shooting him?
24.) Swamp Fox - 11/25/2020
LOL ...
Packhorses don't need no stinkin' saddle ...
Packhorses don't need no stinkin' saddle ...
25.) luv2bowhunt - 11/25/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62362]Hope you get that other buck next year. :tu:
Quick impression: You're finding much more, fresher and more concentrated sign and buck movement during your bow season than I am, and your buck travel routes are more predictable. This could be a function of any number of things.
If NC hadn't screwed up the bow season years ago, I'd be more inclined to go looking for new public land from what I'm used to, with the idea that the grass is always greener somewhere else and that there are harder-to access areas out there for me to discover.
I would also be hoping to find area deer dynamics that lend themselves to lots of scrapes and rubs. I am not sure we're not at the low end of the spectrum with regards to bucks' need to leave highly visible sign here in the eastern and middle part of the state.[/QUOTE]
You might be right, I have no idea what it's like in your area. Although those big mountains of western NC are calling to me every time I drive through them.:wink That's where I'd want to be hunting.
And I was thinking about it last night when I couldn't sleep as usual, if you're hunting a small tract of land or a 300 acre lease, you could easily screw that up by in season scouting. I'm fortunate to be hunting 88,000 acres within 20 minutes of my house. The deer have a hard time getting away from you completely on a big tract. If I feel I've screwed something up, I've always got somewhere else to go.
That's one great thing about PA, millions of acres of public land. We are blessed that way. Our governor is an idiot....but.........
Quick impression: You're finding much more, fresher and more concentrated sign and buck movement during your bow season than I am, and your buck travel routes are more predictable. This could be a function of any number of things.
If NC hadn't screwed up the bow season years ago, I'd be more inclined to go looking for new public land from what I'm used to, with the idea that the grass is always greener somewhere else and that there are harder-to access areas out there for me to discover.
I would also be hoping to find area deer dynamics that lend themselves to lots of scrapes and rubs. I am not sure we're not at the low end of the spectrum with regards to bucks' need to leave highly visible sign here in the eastern and middle part of the state.[/QUOTE]
You might be right, I have no idea what it's like in your area. Although those big mountains of western NC are calling to me every time I drive through them.:wink That's where I'd want to be hunting.
And I was thinking about it last night when I couldn't sleep as usual, if you're hunting a small tract of land or a 300 acre lease, you could easily screw that up by in season scouting. I'm fortunate to be hunting 88,000 acres within 20 minutes of my house. The deer have a hard time getting away from you completely on a big tract. If I feel I've screwed something up, I've always got somewhere else to go.
That's one great thing about PA, millions of acres of public land. We are blessed that way. Our governor is an idiot....but.........
26.) luv2bowhunt - 11/25/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62361]lol, +3
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.[/QUOTE]
I think I had about a dozen sits in the saddle this year. I learned alot this season. Comfort comes down to the angles. How high you put your tether rope on the tree and how long your bridge is, seem to be the most important part of getting comfy. I was able to do 5 hour sits with no problem and shooting out of it was a piece of cake on the strong side.
I will never go back to using treestands in most situations. If you have a spot where you need to be quick and quiet getting in, a pre-hung stand is hard to beat for that.
If you want to know anything specific about the system let me know. My advice would be to find someone in your area who has one and ask if you can try it out on a tree. I didn't get to do that but I would've liked to.
I've given up any hope of actually learning about the product at this point. I know it exists and some people sort of like it.[/QUOTE]
I think I had about a dozen sits in the saddle this year. I learned alot this season. Comfort comes down to the angles. How high you put your tether rope on the tree and how long your bridge is, seem to be the most important part of getting comfy. I was able to do 5 hour sits with no problem and shooting out of it was a piece of cake on the strong side.
I will never go back to using treestands in most situations. If you have a spot where you need to be quick and quiet getting in, a pre-hung stand is hard to beat for that.
If you want to know anything specific about the system let me know. My advice would be to find someone in your area who has one and ask if you can try it out on a tree. I didn't get to do that but I would've liked to.
27.) crookedeye - 11/25/2020
is the top pic from this year? nice bucks anyhow..thats the key to sucess is not listening to swampy.lol
28.) luv2bowhunt - 11/25/2020
I did end up abandoning the Hawk Helium ladder sticks half way through the season, they were just too heavy to lug in over a mile. I pulled out my Wild Edge steps and used 6 of those with a Knaider.
That got me up around 19-20 ft and weighed 6 lbs. I'm pretty sure I will get 4 of the Tethrd One sticks for next season, with the Knaider that will get me around the same height and weigh 2 lbs less. Of course I'll need to take out a home equity loan to afford them.
That got me up around 19-20 ft and weighed 6 lbs. I'm pretty sure I will get 4 of the Tethrd One sticks for next season, with the Knaider that will get me around the same height and weigh 2 lbs less. Of course I'll need to take out a home equity loan to afford them.
29.) luv2bowhunt - 11/25/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62372]is the top pic from this year? nice bucks anyhow..thats the key to sucess is not listening to swampy.lol[/QUOTE]
The one with my ugly face in the bright sunshine is from this year. Yes, the road to success is paved with not reading social media from NC.:-)
The one with my ugly face in the bright sunshine is from this year. Yes, the road to success is paved with not reading social media from NC.:-)
30.) crookedeye - 11/27/2020
i seen it.. nice one. by the way i dont see any pics of swampy bucks on here, matter of fact i havnt seen one on here..does he actually hunt?
31.) crookedeye - 11/27/2020
nice woods
32.) luv2bowhunt - 11/30/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62386]i seen it.. nice one. by the way i dont see any pics of swampy bucks on here, matter of fact i havnt seen one on here..does he actually hunt?[/QUOTE]
:shh:
:shh:
33.) bluecat - 11/30/2020
^^^^lol
Have had two encounters with giant bucks this year. One was 40 yards and closing fast. He saw me reach for my bow, but I'm not sure how as his head was down and I was moving slow. He didn't blow, just changed course.
Another one was coming fast and veered to follow the creek. Didn't see decoy or it would have been a close shot. After those encounters I've decided to sit in a ground blind. I don't have the mature cedar trees in the area I am hunting which give me good coverage.
Have had two encounters with giant bucks this year. One was 40 yards and closing fast. He saw me reach for my bow, but I'm not sure how as his head was down and I was moving slow. He didn't blow, just changed course.
Another one was coming fast and veered to follow the creek. Didn't see decoy or it would have been a close shot. After those encounters I've decided to sit in a ground blind. I don't have the mature cedar trees in the area I am hunting which give me good coverage.
34.) luv2bowhunt - 12/01/2020
Looking forward to seeing one of those big ones on the ground. When does your season end? Any special reason you don't hunt in one of those trees?
35.) bluecat - 12/01/2020
If you are talking about the cedar trees, they aren't very big. The other trees with no leaves, you have to get up into nosebleed section to not get noticed. I don't do that. I had a stand in one of them until last week and was picked off pretty quick. Most of those trees have poison ivy vines going up the trunk. I've learned about those the hard way.
I just want to draw sometime without it being like trying to do heart surgery while driving in the Indy 500.
Our season ends on Dec 31st.
I just want to draw sometime without it being like trying to do heart surgery while driving in the Indy 500.
Our season ends on Dec 31st.
36.) luv2bowhunt - 12/03/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62406]The other trees with no leaves, you have to get up into nosebleed section to not get noticed. I don't do that. I had a stand in one of them until last week and was picked off pretty quick.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if a tree saddle might help a bit with that. If you had a decent idea which way they might travel, you might be able to stay hidden behind the tree. But they do what they want to do and who really knows which way they will approach.
Won't help the poison ivy any. :)
I wonder if a tree saddle might help a bit with that. If you had a decent idea which way they might travel, you might be able to stay hidden behind the tree. But they do what they want to do and who really knows which way they will approach.
Won't help the poison ivy any. :)
37.) crookedeye - 12/05/2020
nice pics bluecat..i like hunting turkeys out of a blind but deer i dont no ..i like to see all around
38.) crookedeye - 12/06/2020
did the deer you seen notice the blind?
39.) crookedeye - 12/06/2020
plus...i like the notion is to do everything opposite that swampy tells you..
40.) crookedeye - 12/06/2020
i remember that time i was looking for a good blind chair, and swampy reccomeded this certain chair so i bought it..that thing was probally the most uncomfortable chair i ever sat in..it bit into my thighs and made my back sore...:wave:
41.) bluecat - 12/08/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62410]did the deer you seen notice the blind?[/QUOTE]
Have not encountered a deer while in that blind.
Have not encountered a deer while in that blind.
42.) bluecat - 12/08/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62409]nice pics bluecat..i like hunting turkeys out of a blind but deer i dont no ..i like to see all around[/QUOTE]
Yes, me too, however my location dictates what I have to use.
Yes, me too, however my location dictates what I have to use.
43.) luv2bowhunt - 12/08/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62411]plus...i like the notion is to do everything opposite that swampy tells you..[/QUOTE]
We should get t-shirts made, "do everything opposite that swampy tells you". :tu:
We should get t-shirts made, "do everything opposite that swampy tells you". :tu:
44.) Swamp Fox - 12/09/2020
Oof! ....
This is brutal ... LOL
But you have to be much pithier on T-shirts. This is why you're still filling potholes and not writing screenplays or even limericks.
My suggestion:
[QUOTE] Swampy Sez
Do The Opposite[/QUOTE]
This is brutal ... LOL
But you have to be much pithier on T-shirts. This is why you're still filling potholes and not writing screenplays or even limericks.
My suggestion:
[QUOTE] Swampy Sez
Do The Opposite[/QUOTE]
45.) bluecat - 12/10/2020
....
So now that Swampy knows that you are doing the opposite, how do you know he's not giving you the opposite of the opposite advice?
So if Swampy tells you not to jump off of a cliff, what are you going to do?
So now that Swampy knows that you are doing the opposite, how do you know he's not giving you the opposite of the opposite advice?
So if Swampy tells you not to jump off of a cliff, what are you going to do?
46.) luv2bowhunt - 12/10/2020
I'm definitely not going to not do the opposite of what he wants me to not do.
.....wait.....
.....wait.....
47.) DParker - 12/11/2020
I wouldn't not do neither.
48.) Swamp Fox - 12/11/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62420]....
So now that Swampy knows that you are doing the opposite, how do you know he's not giving you the opposite of the opposite advice?
So if Swampy tells you not to jump off of a cliff, what are you going to do?[/QUOTE]
LOL ... Great catch. :beer:
[QUOTE]"What is troubling you? Career? Family? Sexual confusion? ..."[/QUOTE]"
LOL ...
So now that Swampy knows that you are doing the opposite, how do you know he's not giving you the opposite of the opposite advice?
So if Swampy tells you not to jump off of a cliff, what are you going to do?[/QUOTE]
LOL ... Great catch. :beer:
[QUOTE]"What is troubling you? Career? Family? Sexual confusion? ..."[/QUOTE]"
LOL ...
49.) DParker - 12/11/2020
Jerry Stiller was a national treasure.
50.) bluecat - 12/11/2020
That's his daughter I believe in that clip. Her last name is Stiller so. Ben also had an episode on King of Queens where he played Arthur's father in a flash back.
51.) Swamp Fox - 12/12/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62412]i remember that time i was looking for a good blind chair, and swampy reccomeded this certain chair so i bought it..that thing was probally the most uncomfortable chair i ever sat in..it bit into my thighs and made my back sore...:wave:[/QUOTE]
I'm going to start compiling specs on saddle hunting gear so I can tell you what I'd use ... LOL
You think you new pain before ...
Stay tuned. :wink
LOL ...
I'm going to start compiling specs on saddle hunting gear so I can tell you what I'd use ... LOL
You think you new pain before ...
Stay tuned. :wink
LOL ...
52.) crookedeye - 12/13/2020
i think we should start ....swampy blunders of 2020... some times i was shaking my head.. this is starting to become a good thread..:ach:
53.) crookedeye - 12/13/2020
i dont no i might try saddle hunting..i have 4 lonewolf climbing sticks, i dont no.. its always good just climbing up in youre stand..but a same day hunt
54.) Swamp Fox - 12/14/2020
[I]Swampy Blunders of 2020[/I] is manageable, but I'm still living with[I] Swampy Blunders of 2003[/I], so don't get me started ....
It could blow up, is what I'm sayin' ...
It could blow up, is what I'm sayin' ...
55.) bluecat - 12/14/2020
I'm still not sure what a saddle has to offer vs a normal tree stand.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.
56.) luv2bowhunt - 12/14/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62435]I'm still not sure what a saddle has to offer vs a normal tree stand.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.[/QUOTE]
I found it much, much easier to setup/tear down when you're bouncing around from spot to spot. Much lighter to carry than an 11 lb hang-on stand plus climbing method. I was using 6 Wild Edge steps and had my total weight with platform down to 9 1/2 lbs. With the same steps I'd be carrying in 17 lbs with my Bravada treestand, 20 lbs with my Millenium hang-on. In mid-November I moved to a different area, didn't have that dread of having to climb the hills carrying in a stand and ladder sticks.
Much more comfortable for the back and upper body, also I liked being able to hide behind the tree when deer were approaching. After 15 hunts out of it this year, I'm not going back to a treestand.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.[/QUOTE]
I found it much, much easier to setup/tear down when you're bouncing around from spot to spot. Much lighter to carry than an 11 lb hang-on stand plus climbing method. I was using 6 Wild Edge steps and had my total weight with platform down to 9 1/2 lbs. With the same steps I'd be carrying in 17 lbs with my Bravada treestand, 20 lbs with my Millenium hang-on. In mid-November I moved to a different area, didn't have that dread of having to climb the hills carrying in a stand and ladder sticks.
Much more comfortable for the back and upper body, also I liked being able to hide behind the tree when deer were approaching. After 15 hunts out of it this year, I'm not going back to a treestand.
57.) luv2bowhunt - 12/14/2020
One of the 'selling' points you see guys claiming on YouTube is that you can shoot 360 deg. around the tree from a saddle. This may be true in theory, but I found that the movement required to spin all the way around the tree makes some of those shot opportunities unrealistic.
You're not getting away with swinging around the tree and getting a shot at public land deer unless you're shooting at one all by himself. Then it would be possible. The one I shot this year was walking down the trail I planned to shoot to on the strong side. No movement required other than drawing the bow.
You're not getting away with swinging around the tree and getting a shot at public land deer unless you're shooting at one all by himself. Then it would be possible. The one I shot this year was walking down the trail I planned to shoot to on the strong side. No movement required other than drawing the bow.
58.) luv2bowhunt - 12/14/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62428]i think we should start ....swampy blunders of 2020... some times i was shaking my head.. this is starting to become a good thread..:ach:[/QUOTE]
Why narrow it down to just one year? There have been so many bad pieces of advice over the last 15 that I've known him.
Why narrow it down to just one year? There have been so many bad pieces of advice over the last 15 that I've known him.
59.) bluecat - 12/15/2020
[QUOTE=DParker;62424]Jerry Stiller was a national treasure.[/QUOTE]
Bonus footage: One of my favorite clips
Bonus footage: One of my favorite clips
60.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62439]Why narrow it down to just one year? There have been so many bad pieces of advice over the last 15 that I've known him.[/QUOTE]
I see you ignored my advice to take a math class, too.
You've virtually known me for more than 15 years ... Closer to 20 ... But not in the biblical sense ...
:buds:
I see you ignored my advice to take a math class, too.
You've virtually known me for more than 15 years ... Closer to 20 ... But not in the biblical sense ...
:buds:
61.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
I want to be clear on that point ...
62.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62435]I'm still not sure what a saddle has to offer vs a normal tree stand.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62437]I found it much, much easier to setup/tear down when you're bouncing around from spot to spot. Much lighter to carry than an 11 lb hang-on stand plus climbing method. I was using 6 Wild Edge steps and had my total weight with platform down to 9 1/2 lbs. With the same steps I'd be carrying in 17 lbs with my Bravada treestand, 20 lbs with my Millenium hang-on. In mid-November I moved to a different area, didn't have that dread of having to climb the hills carrying in a stand and ladder sticks.
Much more comfortable for the back and upper body, also I liked being able to hide behind the tree when deer were approaching. After 15 hunts out of it this year, I'm not going back to a treestand.[/QUOTE]
I think if you have the ability to have your stands pre-set, there is no advantage until you start thinking you would also like to hunt "mobile" with the same gear ... which I have a whole LOL Thread loaded in my head about, so don't get me started ...
If you are humping your gear in and out each time, there could be an advantage if you are careful about your equipment choices. I see no net advantages the way a lot of guys seem to be doing it, though.
Luv2 has obviously been able to cut his weight and gained some other advantages. He's close to the weight range I would be looking for, except I would opt/need to hunt higher, and I don't see any way to do that at this time without surpassing his weight by a fair margin, or pre-setting stands.
p.s. not expecting any pics or information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62437]I found it much, much easier to setup/tear down when you're bouncing around from spot to spot. Much lighter to carry than an 11 lb hang-on stand plus climbing method. I was using 6 Wild Edge steps and had my total weight with platform down to 9 1/2 lbs. With the same steps I'd be carrying in 17 lbs with my Bravada treestand, 20 lbs with my Millenium hang-on. In mid-November I moved to a different area, didn't have that dread of having to climb the hills carrying in a stand and ladder sticks.
Much more comfortable for the back and upper body, also I liked being able to hide behind the tree when deer were approaching. After 15 hunts out of it this year, I'm not going back to a treestand.[/QUOTE]
I think if you have the ability to have your stands pre-set, there is no advantage until you start thinking you would also like to hunt "mobile" with the same gear ... which I have a whole LOL Thread loaded in my head about, so don't get me started ...
If you are humping your gear in and out each time, there could be an advantage if you are careful about your equipment choices. I see no net advantages the way a lot of guys seem to be doing it, though.
Luv2 has obviously been able to cut his weight and gained some other advantages. He's close to the weight range I would be looking for, except I would opt/need to hunt higher, and I don't see any way to do that at this time without surpassing his weight by a fair margin, or pre-setting stands.
63.) luv2bowhunt - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62444]Luv2 has obviously been able to cut his weight and gained some other advantages. He's close to the weight range I would be looking for, except I would opt/need to hunt higher, and I don't see any way to do that at this time without surpassing his weight by a fair margin, or pre-setting stands.[/QUOTE]
I've found there's one big problem with pre-set stands. You have to be able to pick out a spot a decent buck will pass within 20-30 yds of, a month or two in advance. Once we leave early Oct., food sources change, testosterone levels rise, bucks disperse from bachelor groups, and everything changes from what you might have seen on cameras in Sept. Sometimes there can be a lot more human activity or hunting pressure in the area we setup in than we planned on.
We all know it's going to happen every season. I luv how the magazines and hunting 'pros' tell you to setup on pinch points, saddles, inside corners. That's great, except if you try that on most of our public land you'll have plenty of company in those spots. The places to setup that are easy to spot on a topo map or from walking around scouting, are normally full of ladder stands, flagging, and bright eyes.
Where I hunt this year the change from Sept. to Oct. was dramatic. Acorns were absent in most areas, but in some other areas a mile or two away there was a decent Red Oak drop. So deer moved accordingly and my cameras completely dried up, I had to start over from square one and find some buck sign. This has happened several times to me and to some degree happens a little every season.
This is when I always hated to start moving stands, even though I knew I had to. It is really difficult to know 2 months ahead of time where the activity will be for certain. Sure, sometimes we get lucky and it works out for us, but a lot of times it doesn't. That's where being mobile makes sense and helps up the odds in your favor. The saddle just makes it easier to make those adjustments during the season.
I also enjoyed the ability this past season to park anywhere, walk in and hunt without lugging a stand and sticks around. Pre-hung stands are great when you get lucky and they are in the right place, but so many times I was hunting stands that I knew were a waste of time, but that's where my stand was so I went there anyway.
That really is a stupid way to hunt when you think about it, going someplace just because your stand is there. Hunting where the deer are currently makes a lot more sense.
I've found there's one big problem with pre-set stands. You have to be able to pick out a spot a decent buck will pass within 20-30 yds of, a month or two in advance. Once we leave early Oct., food sources change, testosterone levels rise, bucks disperse from bachelor groups, and everything changes from what you might have seen on cameras in Sept. Sometimes there can be a lot more human activity or hunting pressure in the area we setup in than we planned on.
We all know it's going to happen every season. I luv how the magazines and hunting 'pros' tell you to setup on pinch points, saddles, inside corners. That's great, except if you try that on most of our public land you'll have plenty of company in those spots. The places to setup that are easy to spot on a topo map or from walking around scouting, are normally full of ladder stands, flagging, and bright eyes.
Where I hunt this year the change from Sept. to Oct. was dramatic. Acorns were absent in most areas, but in some other areas a mile or two away there was a decent Red Oak drop. So deer moved accordingly and my cameras completely dried up, I had to start over from square one and find some buck sign. This has happened several times to me and to some degree happens a little every season.
This is when I always hated to start moving stands, even though I knew I had to. It is really difficult to know 2 months ahead of time where the activity will be for certain. Sure, sometimes we get lucky and it works out for us, but a lot of times it doesn't. That's where being mobile makes sense and helps up the odds in your favor. The saddle just makes it easier to make those adjustments during the season.
I also enjoyed the ability this past season to park anywhere, walk in and hunt without lugging a stand and sticks around. Pre-hung stands are great when you get lucky and they are in the right place, but so many times I was hunting stands that I knew were a waste of time, but that's where my stand was so I went there anyway.
That really is a stupid way to hunt when you think about it, going someplace just because your stand is there. Hunting where the deer are currently makes a lot more sense.
64.) luv2bowhunt - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62442]I see you ignored my advice to take a math class, too.
You've virtually known me for more than 15 years ... Closer to 20 ... But not in the biblical sense ...
:buds:[/QUOTE]
I've known you since ArcheryWorld 1.0, before both of the crashes, or the BowCountry implosion(s). Hey, I bought those camo coveralls off of you too, like 15 years ago. Which I don't think I ever used btw. :re:
You've virtually known me for more than 15 years ... Closer to 20 ... But not in the biblical sense ...
:buds:[/QUOTE]
I've known you since ArcheryWorld 1.0, before both of the crashes, or the BowCountry implosion(s). Hey, I bought those camo coveralls off of you too, like 15 years ago. Which I don't think I ever used btw. :re:
65.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
I'm thinking 1999 or 2000 or thereabouts is when we first crossed paths.
Time flies like an arrow.
Fruit flies like a banana.
Time flies like an arrow.
Fruit flies like a banana.
66.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
Obviously, the solution for pre-set stands is to have a ton of them and to learn the land and the deer over several years, so you are seldom hunting a low-odds situation.
I think with the popularity of aiders coming on to supplement sticks and steps, there is some hope for bringing down the weight of the climbing gear. I'll be interested to see if there's something unveiled at the ATA show that I haven't gotten a whiff about already.
I'm picking up the pace to find some new places to hunt, and depending on the situation I may be forced to put a toe in the water and add a saddle to my arsenal. I doubt I would be carrying sticks in and out each time. I can see doing that for some situations, definitely not for others.
One attraction of saddle hunting for me is that I can shoot sitting down, LOL. I have never liked shooting from a standing position from a treestand. Something about my peripheral vision and balance or something. So I have always set up so my most likely shots could be taken while seated, or behind the tree where I could brace my legs against the stand seat if I had to stand. I expect a saddle might give me a few more comfortable angles.
I think with the popularity of aiders coming on to supplement sticks and steps, there is some hope for bringing down the weight of the climbing gear. I'll be interested to see if there's something unveiled at the ATA show that I haven't gotten a whiff about already.
I'm picking up the pace to find some new places to hunt, and depending on the situation I may be forced to put a toe in the water and add a saddle to my arsenal. I doubt I would be carrying sticks in and out each time. I can see doing that for some situations, definitely not for others.
One attraction of saddle hunting for me is that I can shoot sitting down, LOL. I have never liked shooting from a standing position from a treestand. Something about my peripheral vision and balance or something. So I have always set up so my most likely shots could be taken while seated, or behind the tree where I could brace my legs against the stand seat if I had to stand. I expect a saddle might give me a few more comfortable angles.
67.) luv2bowhunt - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62449]Obviously, the solution for pre-set stands is to have a ton of them and to learn the land and the deer over several years, so you are seldom hunting a low-odds situation.[/QUOTE]
Been there, done that. Problem for me is, then I've got half a dozen or so stands hung all over the place that needed set, moved, and then cleaned up. I was forever wearing myself out by the end of the season.
Even then, on years like this year, I'd have a whole area's worth of junk that was just sitting there because the deer sign dried up. The saddle is the way to go for multiple setups, I'm convinced of it.
I used a Knaider this year with the Wild Edge steps. I learned to like it, kind of. The Swaider thing may be beyond my current adventure level. I'm not sure I'm ready to be doing that in the dark AM or PM.
The guys with the 1 stick climbing method have it made for lightweight, no one is going to beat that. You just need to be a 21 yr old Olympic athlete to do that quietly and safely in the dark.
Been there, done that. Problem for me is, then I've got half a dozen or so stands hung all over the place that needed set, moved, and then cleaned up. I was forever wearing myself out by the end of the season.
Even then, on years like this year, I'd have a whole area's worth of junk that was just sitting there because the deer sign dried up. The saddle is the way to go for multiple setups, I'm convinced of it.
I used a Knaider this year with the Wild Edge steps. I learned to like it, kind of. The Swaider thing may be beyond my current adventure level. I'm not sure I'm ready to be doing that in the dark AM or PM.
The guys with the 1 stick climbing method have it made for lightweight, no one is going to beat that. You just need to be a 21 yr old Olympic athlete to do that quietly and safely in the dark.
68.) luv2bowhunt - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62449]I'm picking up the pace to find some new places to hunt, and depending on the situation I may be forced to put a toe in the water and add a saddle to my arsenal.[/QUOTE]
I know you well enough and for long enough to know it will never happen. You'll ask a couple dozen questions, post a few links, pics, or sale prices, but never put a toe in that water.
Big cloud, big thunder, little rain.:-)
I know you well enough and for long enough to know it will never happen. You'll ask a couple dozen questions, post a few links, pics, or sale prices, but never put a toe in that water.
Big cloud, big thunder, little rain.:-)
69.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
Once I set a stand, I rarely move it until after the season. I just invested in more and more stands over time, LOL. If a stand isn't working out, I don't worry about it, but it's funny how often a stand that didn't work one year was worth a few shots (sits) the following year. So I usually give a pre-set stand two years before I pull it. I have confidence in my original instinct to set up there, and more often than not that confidence is justified.
The Knaider/Swaider thing is something I'm still tossing around. How is it on your knees? It seems like a whole lot of goop to go through for guys who (supposedly, according to the marketing material :re:) can't handle the fiddle factor of something so complicated as reversible single-step sticks. :omg:
I'm more inclined to add aiders to each climbing stick and be done with it.
I agree on the one-stick method. The last I checked in on it it still made my knees scream, and it is way too much effort for my deer season when I can count on temps from 40-70 on prime-time mornings, and 60-80 in the evenings.
Forty to seventy percent humidity minimum on top of that, so put that in your smartphone hunting app and smoke it ...
[When I say prime time, I'm leaving out the two or two-and-a-half months of hunting season leading up to it, when I'd be stankin' up the place even worse with something as strenuous as one-stick climbing.]
The Knaider/Swaider thing is something I'm still tossing around. How is it on your knees? It seems like a whole lot of goop to go through for guys who (supposedly, according to the marketing material :re:) can't handle the fiddle factor of something so complicated as reversible single-step sticks. :omg:
I'm more inclined to add aiders to each climbing stick and be done with it.
I agree on the one-stick method. The last I checked in on it it still made my knees scream, and it is way too much effort for my deer season when I can count on temps from 40-70 on prime-time mornings, and 60-80 in the evenings.
Forty to seventy percent humidity minimum on top of that, so put that in your smartphone hunting app and smoke it ...
[When I say prime time, I'm leaving out the two or two-and-a-half months of hunting season leading up to it, when I'd be stankin' up the place even worse with something as strenuous as one-stick climbing.]
70.) Swamp Fox - 12/16/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62451]I know you well enough and for long enough to know it will never happen. You'll ask a couple dozen questions, post a few links, pics, or sale prices, but never put a toe in that water.
Big cloud, big thunder, little rain.:-)[/QUOTE]
Oh, ye of little faith ...
LOL
Nah, I'm tired of the same old-same old.
Prolly time for a new adventure.
Big cloud, big thunder, little rain.:-)[/QUOTE]
Oh, ye of little faith ...
LOL
Nah, I'm tired of the same old-same old.
Prolly time for a new adventure.
71.) Swamp Fox - 12/17/2020
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72.) luv2bowhunt - 12/17/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62452]The Knaider/Swaider thing is something I'm still tossing around. How is it on your knees?[/QUOTE]
I only used a Knaider, not a Swaider. With the Knaider 2 steps got me just over 6'. So using 6 I was around 19-19 1/2' to the platform.
I used the Knaider on my left knee (bad knee), and I had no problems with it once I learned to make the straps as tight as they would go. At first it wanted to slide off my foot when I moved up to the next step. User error I believe, tightening it more made that go away.
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.
I only used a Knaider, not a Swaider. With the Knaider 2 steps got me just over 6'. So using 6 I was around 19-19 1/2' to the platform.
I used the Knaider on my left knee (bad knee), and I had no problems with it once I learned to make the straps as tight as they would go. At first it wanted to slide off my foot when I moved up to the next step. User error I believe, tightening it more made that go away.
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.
73.) bluecat - 12/17/2020
castration band? I'm out.
74.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
C'mon.... It could be just what you need ...
(That's what SHE said ....)
(That's what SHE said ....)
75.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62459]I only used a Knaider, not a Swaider. With the Knaider 2 steps got me just over 6'. So using 6 I was around 19-19 1/2' to the platform.
I used the Knaider on my left knee (bad knee), and I had no problems with it once I learned to make the straps as tight as they would go. At first it wanted to slide off my foot when I moved up to the next step. User error I believe, tightening it more made that go away.
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.[/QUOTE]
Luv2, I'm with you on the Ameristeps for a jump start. I have a ton of those things from hunting some Federal land, LOL .... But I mainly used to use them for exactly the purpose you highlight on other public land: to reach my 8th screw-in step, the first one I'd leave in the tree.
I used the Ameristeps until I got my hands on a large supply of something else ... :shh::-)
Also, I will tell y'all not to use the Ameristeps in a horse pasture, because the damn horses will come over and suck on them and you'll never get them to go away ...
LOL ...
Ask me how I know ....
I used the Knaider on my left knee (bad knee), and I had no problems with it once I learned to make the straps as tight as they would go. At first it wanted to slide off my foot when I moved up to the next step. User error I believe, tightening it more made that go away.
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.[/QUOTE]
Luv2, I'm with you on the Ameristeps for a jump start. I have a ton of those things from hunting some Federal land, LOL .... But I mainly used to use them for exactly the purpose you highlight on other public land: to reach my 8th screw-in step, the first one I'd leave in the tree.
I used the Ameristeps until I got my hands on a large supply of something else ... :shh::-)
Also, I will tell y'all not to use the Ameristeps in a horse pasture, because the damn horses will come over and suck on them and you'll never get them to go away ...
LOL ...
Ask me how I know ....
76.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62459]
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. It doesn't look that complicated to me.
(It is more complicated than trespassing on someone else's pre-set stand, but I'm not sure the bar should be THAT low ....)
The main thing I object to is slapping a metal carabiner on a metal step or stick. I don't see how you don't make noise that way. I suppose you could wrap everything ....
I think the extra height and/or ditching one or two steps or sticks would make it very worthwhile.
The Swaider is a whole 'nuther' thing to learn. Haven't made that leap yet and don't think I will. I'm leaning heavily towards the new Tethrd One sticks. 4 of them would be the ticket for me, could carry along a couple of the old Ameristeps for the base of the tree too to get a few more feet if needed with very little additional weight.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. It doesn't look that complicated to me.
(It is more complicated than trespassing on someone else's pre-set stand, but I'm not sure the bar should be THAT low ....)
The main thing I object to is slapping a metal carabiner on a metal step or stick. I don't see how you don't make noise that way. I suppose you could wrap everything ....
I think the extra height and/or ditching one or two steps or sticks would make it very worthwhile.
77.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
The Tetherd sticks look VERY promising.
Four at about four pounds plus aiders could get you to 17-feet +, so six at just under six pounds plus aiders is talkin' to me ...
Four at about four pounds plus aiders could get you to 17-feet +, so six at just under six pounds plus aiders is talkin' to me ...
78.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
I still don't think my main method would be to carry sticks in and out, but after the Tetherd sticks, I would take a long look at:
Eastern Woods Outdoors (I'd prolly go with a 22 inch step and a 20- inch step-to- step.) 1 lb 10 oz
Lone Wolf Custom Gear Compact sticks (18 .75 inches overall, 17 inches step-to-step) 1 lb 10 oz
Shikar Steps, (19 inches overall, 17 step-to-step) 1 lb 9 oz
Until the ATA show, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
:wave:
Eastern Woods Outdoors (I'd prolly go with a 22 inch step and a 20- inch step-to- step.) 1 lb 10 oz
Lone Wolf Custom Gear Compact sticks (18 .75 inches overall, 17 inches step-to-step) 1 lb 10 oz
Shikar Steps, (19 inches overall, 17 step-to-step) 1 lb 9 oz
Until the ATA show, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
:wave:
79.) luv2bowhunt - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62464]I don't know. It doesn't look that complicated to me.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much the complication of it, it's the physics of it. With any aider I've used there's a certain amount of 'unsteadiness' that comes with the design. With the Knaider you have to make sure you jam that toe into the tree or it can swing left or right a little bit depending on the angle of the tree. The Swaider, being longer, is going to magnify that even more if the toe isn't jammed into the tree just right.
I used a movable aider with the Hawk Helium climbing sticks and hated every minute of it. It requires you to fit your toe in the loop, step onto the ladder, then remove it and put it around your neck, and then up on the next stick when you get it hung. I found this to be a real PITA doing it in the dark on morning hunts. Also, coming down was worse because it could be hard to see how your foot was doing getting it in the loop, in the dark.
The Knaider was much better because it's attached to you and you don't have to keep fiddling with it.
I luv my Ameristep strap on steps, I use them a lot for the first 3 steps at a stand location. Not sure I'd trust them all the way up, but fine for the first 6' or so.
It's not so much the complication of it, it's the physics of it. With any aider I've used there's a certain amount of 'unsteadiness' that comes with the design. With the Knaider you have to make sure you jam that toe into the tree or it can swing left or right a little bit depending on the angle of the tree. The Swaider, being longer, is going to magnify that even more if the toe isn't jammed into the tree just right.
I used a movable aider with the Hawk Helium climbing sticks and hated every minute of it. It requires you to fit your toe in the loop, step onto the ladder, then remove it and put it around your neck, and then up on the next stick when you get it hung. I found this to be a real PITA doing it in the dark on morning hunts. Also, coming down was worse because it could be hard to see how your foot was doing getting it in the loop, in the dark.
The Knaider was much better because it's attached to you and you don't have to keep fiddling with it.
I luv my Ameristep strap on steps, I use them a lot for the first 3 steps at a stand location. Not sure I'd trust them all the way up, but fine for the first 6' or so.
80.) luv2bowhunt - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62466]I still don't think my main method would be to carry sticks in and out, but after the Tetherd sticks, I would take a long look at:
Eastern Woods Outdoors (I'd prolly go with a 22 inch step and a 20- inch step-to- step.) 1 lb 10 oz
Lone Wolf Custom Gear full-sized sticks (18 .75 inches overall, 17 inches step-to-step) 1 lb 10 oz
Shikar Steps, (19 inches overall, 17 step-to-step) 1 lb 9 oz
Until the ATA show, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
:wave:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've looked at all of them. All good products but the weight increase for 4 compared to Tethrd is just too much for me. You'd be averaging an extra 2 1/2 lbs for 4 sticks.
Eastern Woods Outdoors (I'd prolly go with a 22 inch step and a 20- inch step-to- step.) 1 lb 10 oz
Lone Wolf Custom Gear full-sized sticks (18 .75 inches overall, 17 inches step-to-step) 1 lb 10 oz
Shikar Steps, (19 inches overall, 17 step-to-step) 1 lb 9 oz
Until the ATA show, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
:wave:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've looked at all of them. All good products but the weight increase for 4 compared to Tethrd is just too much for me. You'd be averaging an extra 2 1/2 lbs for 4 sticks.
81.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
Yes. ^^^^^
Unless there's something funky about how the Tetherd sticks pack or something, I can't see how someone would not prefer them.
I'll assume they'll bite the tree and don't kick out, etc ... LOL
Unless there's something funky about how the Tetherd sticks pack or something, I can't see how someone would not prefer them.
I'll assume they'll bite the tree and don't kick out, etc ... LOL
82.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62467]
I luv my Ameristep strap on steps, I use them a lot for the first 3 steps at a stand location. Not sure I'd trust them all the way up, but fine for the first 6' or so.[/QUOTE]
Before or at about the same time as I discovered the superior Cranford rope steps, I used the Ameristeps up to about 20 feet, back in the day when I thought that was pretty high, LOL.
It took a bit of effort to get them tight enough not to slip and I don't remember them ever being perfect. There was one buckle I had to get rid of because it was quadriplegia waiting to happen. But mostly they did their job. My main problem with them is that I never figured out how to carry as many as I needed without them taking up WAY too much space and being slow to deploy and stow (neatly).
I luv my Ameristep strap on steps, I use them a lot for the first 3 steps at a stand location. Not sure I'd trust them all the way up, but fine for the first 6' or so.[/QUOTE]
Before or at about the same time as I discovered the superior Cranford rope steps, I used the Ameristeps up to about 20 feet, back in the day when I thought that was pretty high, LOL.
It took a bit of effort to get them tight enough not to slip and I don't remember them ever being perfect. There was one buckle I had to get rid of because it was quadriplegia waiting to happen. But mostly they did their job. My main problem with them is that I never figured out how to carry as many as I needed without them taking up WAY too much space and being slow to deploy and stow (neatly).
83.) Swamp Fox - 12/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62467]It's not so much the complication of it, it's the physics of it. With any aider I've used there's a certain amount of 'unsteadiness' that comes with the design. With the Knaider you have to make sure you jam that toe into the tree or it can swing left or right a little bit depending on the angle of the tree. The Swaider, being longer, is going to magnify that even more if the toe isn't jammed into the tree just right.
I used a movable aider with the Hawk Helium climbing sticks and hated every minute of it. It requires you to fit your toe in the loop, step onto the ladder, then remove it and put it around your neck, and then up on the next stick when you get it hung. I found this to be a real PITA doing it in the dark on morning hunts. Also, coming down was worse because it could be hard to see how your foot was doing getting it in the loop, in the dark.
The Knaider was much better because it's attached to you and you don't have to keep fiddling with it.
[/QUOTE]
I'm liking the cable aiders you can permanently attach to each stick, for the simplicity and stability.
I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I never thought of the angle of the tree.
I used a movable aider with the Hawk Helium climbing sticks and hated every minute of it. It requires you to fit your toe in the loop, step onto the ladder, then remove it and put it around your neck, and then up on the next stick when you get it hung. I found this to be a real PITA doing it in the dark on morning hunts. Also, coming down was worse because it could be hard to see how your foot was doing getting it in the loop, in the dark.
The Knaider was much better because it's attached to you and you don't have to keep fiddling with it.
[/QUOTE]
I'm liking the cable aiders you can permanently attach to each stick, for the simplicity and stability.
I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I never thought of the angle of the tree.
84.) luv2bowhunt - 12/21/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62469]Yes. ^^^^^
Unless there's something funky about how the Tetherd sticks pack or something, I can't see how someone would not prefer them.
I'll assume they'll bite the tree and don't kick out, etc ... LOL[/QUOTE]
Watch this video and pay attention to how the sticks stack together. I think they nailed that too. There's going to be an immediate run on these when they finally hit the website. They won't last long IMO.
Unless there's something funky about how the Tetherd sticks pack or something, I can't see how someone would not prefer them.
I'll assume they'll bite the tree and don't kick out, etc ... LOL[/QUOTE]
Watch this video and pay attention to how the sticks stack together. I think they nailed that too. There's going to be an immediate run on these when they finally hit the website. They won't last long IMO.
85.) luv2bowhunt - 12/21/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62471]I'm liking the cable aiders you can permanently attach to each stick, for the simplicity and stability.
I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I never thought of the angle of the tree.[/QUOTE]
I agree on that, the cable aiders where the loop stays open and already attached to your stick, is the best aider option.
I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I never thought of the angle of the tree.[/QUOTE]
I agree on that, the cable aiders where the loop stays open and already attached to your stick, is the best aider option.
86.) Swamp Fox - 12/22/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62486]Watch this video and pay attention to how the sticks stack together. I think they nailed that too. There's going to be an immediate run on these when they finally hit the website. They won't last long IMO.
[/QUOTE]
Nice! Being able to climb with all or most of a lightweight set clipped together is a major step forward.
I'm thinking there's going to be a long wait to get these for a lot of people. I guess I'll save my pennies in the meantime and let them work the kinks out while I figure out if I can use them.
[/QUOTE]
Nice! Being able to climb with all or most of a lightweight set clipped together is a major step forward.
I'm thinking there's going to be a long wait to get these for a lot of people. I guess I'll save my pennies in the meantime and let them work the kinks out while I figure out if I can use them.
87.) Swamp Fox - 12/22/2020
Two things that are bothering me about the Tetherd sticks:
I'm guessing they are not cable aider-ready.
I've not seen where they are carry-compatible with anyone's platform, nor that they're even offering a sling or other easy carry option for a set of four or six sticks.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm guessing they are not cable aider-ready.
I've not seen where they are carry-compatible with anyone's platform, nor that they're even offering a sling or other easy carry option for a set of four or six sticks.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
88.) luv2bowhunt - 12/22/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62512]Two things that are bothering me about the Tetherd sticks:
I'm guessing they are not cable aider-ready.
I've not seen where they are carry-compatible with anyone's platform, nor that they're even offering a sling or other easy carry option for a set of four or six sticks.
Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
You're supposed to get a backpack that handles the sticks and platform, like the Trophyline CAYS pack. That's what everyone is doing. Get with the program Tarheel.
I'm guessing they are not cable aider-ready.
I've not seen where they are carry-compatible with anyone's platform, nor that they're even offering a sling or other easy carry option for a set of four or six sticks.
Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
You're supposed to get a backpack that handles the sticks and platform, like the Trophyline CAYS pack. That's what everyone is doing. Get with the program Tarheel.
89.) Swamp Fox - 12/22/2020
So after I get the 3.5-pound pack (!) which looks like a hot mess ("20 usable pockets"!) to carry the six pounds of sticks and the four- pound platform (I'm being generous all around here ... LOL) I'm good to go for lightweight mobile hunting, right?
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p
90.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
I do see a new pack in my future if I take up saddle hunting.... This is the next frontier in hunting gear, IMO...
It's never been acceptable to me to try to make a "standard" pack work with a treestand ("platform") plus climbing gear, plus weapon, plus EDC gear ...
It's never been acceptable to me to try to make a "standard" pack work with a treestand ("platform") plus climbing gear, plus weapon, plus EDC gear ...
91.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
92.) luv2bowhunt - 12/23/2020
Is that you climbing into the Bronco during gun season?
93.) luv2bowhunt - 12/23/2020
I'm still trying to find a way to get everything on my Badlands fanny pack, and wear the saddle in. I need to find a better way with the saddle, I really don't like backpacks for a couple reasons, but they are more convenient for carrying everything.
94.) luv2bowhunt - 12/23/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62519]So after I get the 3.5-pound pack (!) which looks like a hot mess ("20 usable pockets"!) to carry the six pounds of sticks and the four- pound platform (I'm being generous all around here ... LOL) I'm good to go for lightweight mobile hunting, right?
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p[/QUOTE]
But you still had to carry a pack with gear in it back then, no? Anyway you look at it, you have to carry other shi.....stuff in with you.
Since you posted this I've been checking pack weights. My Badlands Monster Fanny pack weighs almost 3 lbs. The Timber Hawk backpack I used this year weighs 3 1/2 lbs. The Eberlestock X2 weighs 4 1/2 lbs. The Horn Hunter Main Beam size med weighs 6 lbs. The ALPS OutdoorZ Trail Blazer weighs 4 lbs.
How much does the pack you're using this year weigh? Be honest, no fudging or guessing. I don't think 3 1/2 lbs is out of line for a pack to carry your platform and sticks.
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p[/QUOTE]
But you still had to carry a pack with gear in it back then, no? Anyway you look at it, you have to carry other shi.....stuff in with you.
Since you posted this I've been checking pack weights. My Badlands Monster Fanny pack weighs almost 3 lbs. The Timber Hawk backpack I used this year weighs 3 1/2 lbs. The Eberlestock X2 weighs 4 1/2 lbs. The Horn Hunter Main Beam size med weighs 6 lbs. The ALPS OutdoorZ Trail Blazer weighs 4 lbs.
How much does the pack you're using this year weigh? Be honest, no fudging or guessing. I don't think 3 1/2 lbs is out of line for a pack to carry your platform and sticks.
95.) bluecat - 12/23/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62519]
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p[/QUOTE]
We used to dream of a 12-pound climber.
I was doing this in the 80s with a 12-pound climber or a six-pound WindWalker ... :p[/QUOTE]
We used to dream of a 12-pound climber.
96.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62532]But you still had to carry a pack with gear in it back then, no? Anyway you look at it, you have to carry other shi.....stuff in with you.
Since you posted this I've been checking pack weights. My Badlands Monster Fanny pack weighs almost 3 lbs. The Timber Hawk backpack I used this year weighs 3 1/2 lbs. The Eberlestock X2 weighs 4 1/2 lbs. The Horn Hunter Main Beam size med weighs 6 lbs. The ALPS OutdoorZ Trail Blazer weighs 4 lbs.
How much does the pack you're using this year weigh? Be honest, no fudging or guessing. I don't think 3 1/2 lbs is out of line for a pack to carry your platform and sticks.[/QUOTE]
"Out of line" was not where I was going with that note.
I'd have to look up the weights of the packs I use, but a rough guess for almost everything beyond a fanny would be north of 6 pounds. I've never chosen packs with weight primarily in mind. I have always looked at capacity, ruggedness and storage layout. I've avoided anything I thought was "delicate." (Lighter Badlands of a certain era, I'm looking at you ...)
My disposition probably dooms me to heavier packs in the universe of what was/is available.
Obviously, though, there is a point where a pack is unnecessarily heavy. For the benefit I get out of the various packs I own, though, I don't feel I've ever crossed that line. I would call my packs "reasonable."
[B]So I noted the 3.5 # pack with the idea that it is a very light weight for a pack and therefore cannot be very substantial, either in capacity or material. My exclamation mark was meant as a point of criticism. I've been disappointed in mass-produced packs that shot for extreme light weight. [/B]
Of course, if you can put your hands on one and it meets your expectations for ruggedness and packability, have at it. I'm just spitballin' here ...
Since you posted this I've been checking pack weights. My Badlands Monster Fanny pack weighs almost 3 lbs. The Timber Hawk backpack I used this year weighs 3 1/2 lbs. The Eberlestock X2 weighs 4 1/2 lbs. The Horn Hunter Main Beam size med weighs 6 lbs. The ALPS OutdoorZ Trail Blazer weighs 4 lbs.
How much does the pack you're using this year weigh? Be honest, no fudging or guessing. I don't think 3 1/2 lbs is out of line for a pack to carry your platform and sticks.[/QUOTE]
"Out of line" was not where I was going with that note.
I'd have to look up the weights of the packs I use, but a rough guess for almost everything beyond a fanny would be north of 6 pounds. I've never chosen packs with weight primarily in mind. I have always looked at capacity, ruggedness and storage layout. I've avoided anything I thought was "delicate." (Lighter Badlands of a certain era, I'm looking at you ...)
My disposition probably dooms me to heavier packs in the universe of what was/is available.
Obviously, though, there is a point where a pack is unnecessarily heavy. For the benefit I get out of the various packs I own, though, I don't feel I've ever crossed that line. I would call my packs "reasonable."
[B]So I noted the 3.5 # pack with the idea that it is a very light weight for a pack and therefore cannot be very substantial, either in capacity or material. My exclamation mark was meant as a point of criticism. I've been disappointed in mass-produced packs that shot for extreme light weight. [/B]
Of course, if you can put your hands on one and it meets your expectations for ruggedness and packability, have at it. I'm just spitballin' here ...
97.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62522][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62530]Is that you climbing into the Bronco during gun season?[/QUOTE]
Crossbow season ...
:wink
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62530]Is that you climbing into the Bronco during gun season?[/QUOTE]
Crossbow season ...
:wink
98.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62531]I'm still trying to find a way to get everything on my Badlands fanny pack, and wear the saddle in. I need to find a better way with the saddle, I really don't like backpacks for a couple reasons, but they are more convenient for carrying everything.[/QUOTE]
I don't like wearing harneses in and out (sweaty). I'm attracted to the saddles that have detachable leg straps. Less to snag. But I foresee not wearing the saddle in or out.
I use one or two "guide bags" slung across the chest bandolier-style and riding on my sides for climbing gear, harnesses, trail cameras, etc., and they have worked out nicely. (Think messenger bags or man-purses, LOL.)
[url]https://www.mackspw.com/Avery-Expandable-Guides-Hunting-Bag[/url]
Also, the proper small backpack can be worn on the front of the chest, most often to complement a fanny pack that just won't carry everything you need. That way you don't have a backpack pressing down on a fanny pack worn in the rear, or you can carry a stand on your back and a pack on your front.
There is such a thing as commercial "chest packs" (check fishing and military surplus sites) but any small-to-medium backpack that you can get your arms through and then lock the sternum strap across your middle back will work.
I don't like wearing harneses in and out (sweaty). I'm attracted to the saddles that have detachable leg straps. Less to snag. But I foresee not wearing the saddle in or out.
I use one or two "guide bags" slung across the chest bandolier-style and riding on my sides for climbing gear, harnesses, trail cameras, etc., and they have worked out nicely. (Think messenger bags or man-purses, LOL.)
[url]https://www.mackspw.com/Avery-Expandable-Guides-Hunting-Bag[/url]
Also, the proper small backpack can be worn on the front of the chest, most often to complement a fanny pack that just won't carry everything you need. That way you don't have a backpack pressing down on a fanny pack worn in the rear, or you can carry a stand on your back and a pack on your front.
There is such a thing as commercial "chest packs" (check fishing and military surplus sites) but any small-to-medium backpack that you can get your arms through and then lock the sternum strap across your middle back will work.
99.) Swamp Fox - 12/23/2020
Good real-world review of the CAYS pack: ....
100.) Swamp Fox - 12/24/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62516]You're supposed to get a backpack that handles the sticks and platform, like the Trophyline CAYS pack. That's what everyone is doing. Get with the program Tarheel.[/QUOTE]
I never approved of either lashing a stand (or much of anything, including bows and rifles) to the face of a pack, [balance] nor of lashing the backpack to the stand [stability] --except in the lightest and slimmest configurations. They are both bass-ackwards methods to carry a load over anything but the gentlest terrain.
I'm glad to see that guys who want to haul all that shi...stuff over hell's creation have discovered cargo shelves on external frame packs. Perhaps now we will begin to make some progress.
I never approved of either lashing a stand (or much of anything, including bows and rifles) to the face of a pack, [balance] nor of lashing the backpack to the stand [stability] --except in the lightest and slimmest configurations. They are both bass-ackwards methods to carry a load over anything but the gentlest terrain.
I'm glad to see that guys who want to haul all that shi...stuff over hell's creation have discovered cargo shelves on external frame packs. Perhaps now we will begin to make some progress.
101.) Swamp Fox - 12/27/2020
I think before investing in a bunch of saddle gear which you might or might not end up liking, you might invest in a pack system that will carry a hang-on and steps or sticks and ease into it.
I think there is a lot to come in terms of seats and harnesses (to say nothing of platforms, lol) so that we're far from the pinnacle of saddle hunting gear development.
I think there is a lot to come in terms of seats and harnesses (to say nothing of platforms, lol) so that we're far from the pinnacle of saddle hunting gear development.
102.) Swamp Fox - 12/27/2020
In 20 years, the hot new idea will be hanging off the tree on a platform you can sit down on when you want to ... :wink
103.) luv2bowhunt - 12/28/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62599]In 20 years, the hot new idea will be hanging off the tree on a platform you can sit down on when you want to ... :wink[/QUOTE]
I've seen a new gizmo called the Rut Roost. So now I've got to carry 2 platforms so I can saddle hunt???? Might as well have a treestand if you're carrying all that shi...stuff.
I've seen a new gizmo called the Rut Roost. So now I've got to carry 2 platforms so I can saddle hunt???? Might as well have a treestand if you're carrying all that shi...stuff.
104.) bluecat - 12/28/2020
Rut Roh..
105.) Swamp Fox - 12/29/2020
LOL ...
I've done some long mornings (til 11, say) standing up on a traditional stand without a seat, with four-point harnesses and rock harnesses. It helps to ease the pain if you have a buddy in the tree with you filming or hunting, but it's doable even without.
Not real interested in standing all day even during the rut with or without outside entertainment, though...
... or she'd have to be REALLY good-looking, and really single.
[Applicants, submit your photos down below... I mean below this post ... ]
Seems to me that if the timing of a hunt is such that a deer could step out any time, requiring an all-day sit, you would not want a tree system that requires a lot of adjustment and squirming to stay comfortable and alert .... or you'd want to be at 30-ft.-plus ... :wink
I've done some long mornings (til 11, say) standing up on a traditional stand without a seat, with four-point harnesses and rock harnesses. It helps to ease the pain if you have a buddy in the tree with you filming or hunting, but it's doable even without.
Not real interested in standing all day even during the rut with or without outside entertainment, though...
... or she'd have to be REALLY good-looking, and really single.
[Applicants, submit your photos down below... I mean below this post ... ]
Seems to me that if the timing of a hunt is such that a deer could step out any time, requiring an all-day sit, you would not want a tree system that requires a lot of adjustment and squirming to stay comfortable and alert .... or you'd want to be at 30-ft.-plus ... :wink
106.) luv2bowhunt - 12/29/2020
This is why I told CrOoKEdEyE to get a saddle with a lot of material under your butt. That's what made me decide on mine, the reviews that all said the bigger the saddle surface area, the more comfortable it will be.
I think I've found that to be true. I sat in the saddle on 16 hunts last year, averaging 4-5 hours per sit, never got uncomfortable. When I sat with my knees against the tree and head/hands resting on the tether, I could've easily fallen asleep.
Not sure why you need a platform to sit on, unless you bought a skinny saddle that hurts your buttocks.
I think I've found that to be true. I sat in the saddle on 16 hunts last year, averaging 4-5 hours per sit, never got uncomfortable. When I sat with my knees against the tree and head/hands resting on the tether, I could've easily fallen asleep.
Not sure why you need a platform to sit on, unless you bought a skinny saddle that hurts your buttocks.
107.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
Are you a leaner or a sitter in a saddle, or how much do you alternate?
When I have to stand on stand for a long time, my legs just get tired. It's nice to be able to sit or at least do some jumping jacks or deep squats for a change of pace, LOL
When I have to stand on stand for a long time, my legs just get tired. It's nice to be able to sit or at least do some jumping jacks or deep squats for a change of pace, LOL
108.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62621]Are you a leaner or a sitter in a saddle, or how much do you alternate?
When I have to stand on stand for a long time, my legs just get tired. It's nice to be able to sit or at least do some jumping jacks or deep squats for a change of pace, LOL[/QUOTE]
I mostly ended up sitting, knees against the tree. That was what I found most comfortable for long periods of time. But the leaning with the backband on was comfortable too, and affords the ability to move around a bit to see around the tree and break up the boredom that comes on public land sits. I probably switched it up every 20 minutes or so.
Hours and hours of seeing nothing, day after day. This year was tough, I saw 9 deer from the tree this year, 5 of them were buck. With the Covid damnpanic, all those people that are 'working from home', were out in full force too.
I saw 2 groups of hikers, 2 women on horseback, and a herd of mountain bikers all from the tree this season. This in places where I never run into anyone. I'll be glad when this virus is gone so everyone can get back to doing whatever they did before, like go to the Outer Banks, Branson, Disney World, or wherever the hell they normally go.
When I have to stand on stand for a long time, my legs just get tired. It's nice to be able to sit or at least do some jumping jacks or deep squats for a change of pace, LOL[/QUOTE]
I mostly ended up sitting, knees against the tree. That was what I found most comfortable for long periods of time. But the leaning with the backband on was comfortable too, and affords the ability to move around a bit to see around the tree and break up the boredom that comes on public land sits. I probably switched it up every 20 minutes or so.
Hours and hours of seeing nothing, day after day. This year was tough, I saw 9 deer from the tree this year, 5 of them were buck. With the Covid damnpanic, all those people that are 'working from home', were out in full force too.
I saw 2 groups of hikers, 2 women on horseback, and a herd of mountain bikers all from the tree this season. This in places where I never run into anyone. I'll be glad when this virus is gone so everyone can get back to doing whatever they did before, like go to the Outer Banks, Branson, Disney World, or wherever the hell they normally go.
109.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
fyi, none of this conversation has given me any cause to check out the saddle. I still don't understand the advantage of sitting in a sling?
You have to bring steps or a ladder (no difference there). You have to get a certain type of saddle or it's uncomfortable. There's a lot of clips and carabiners and ropes and crap I don't want to deal with. Sitting with my knees against the tree sounds fruity as well as a view I would not consider beneficial.
You have to bring steps or a ladder (no difference there). You have to get a certain type of saddle or it's uncomfortable. There's a lot of clips and carabiners and ropes and crap I don't want to deal with. Sitting with my knees against the tree sounds fruity as well as a view I would not consider beneficial.
110.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62625]fyi, none of this conversation has given me any cause to check out the saddle. I still don't understand the advantage of sitting in a sling?
You have to bring steps or a ladder (no difference there). You have to get a certain type of saddle or it's uncomfortable. There's a lot of clips and carabiners and ropes and crap I don't want to deal with. Sitting with my knees against the tree sounds fruity as well as a view I would not consider beneficial.[/QUOTE]
It's certainly not for everyone. You'll get no argument from me.
For me, it's much easier to bounce around with than a treestand. Especially when I'm climbing up and down our hills. If you hunt flat land you probably don't mind carring an extra 4-5 lbs around. At my age, that makes a big difference in the hills.
Especially at the end of the season when I'd have to go around and gather up 5-6 sets of stands and ladder sticks. Wore myself out with that in 2019.
As far as facing the tree, I'm finding that to be helpful in hiding from deer when they come by.
You have to bring steps or a ladder (no difference there). You have to get a certain type of saddle or it's uncomfortable. There's a lot of clips and carabiners and ropes and crap I don't want to deal with. Sitting with my knees against the tree sounds fruity as well as a view I would not consider beneficial.[/QUOTE]
It's certainly not for everyone. You'll get no argument from me.
For me, it's much easier to bounce around with than a treestand. Especially when I'm climbing up and down our hills. If you hunt flat land you probably don't mind carring an extra 4-5 lbs around. At my age, that makes a big difference in the hills.
Especially at the end of the season when I'd have to go around and gather up 5-6 sets of stands and ladder sticks. Wore myself out with that in 2019.
As far as facing the tree, I'm finding that to be helpful in hiding from deer when they come by.
111.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
As I see it, the key to dropping weight is to climb using something much lighter than standard sticks or steps while [B]also[/B] minimizing "platform" weight. The ring of steps idea for the minimalist approach is extremely unconvincing to anyone who's ever used strap-on steps. (The ratchet required is another red flag, LOL)
Since I haven't seen any evidence that a platform that checks ALL the boxes I'd go in looking for would weigh less than five pounds, that doesn't leave a lot of room for a climbing method ...
But it leaves some!
I think I can work around some of the weight issues since I can legally use some methods of climbing that a lot of you other poor bastards cannot.
I am having a bit of a struggle envisioning how having your bridge and tether can't be gotten out of the way for better bow or rifle maneuverability, though.
I'm not sure why everyone is putting all that crap in front of them, unless it's just the Kool-Aid.
Since I haven't seen any evidence that a platform that checks ALL the boxes I'd go in looking for would weigh less than five pounds, that doesn't leave a lot of room for a climbing method ...
But it leaves some!
I think I can work around some of the weight issues since I can legally use some methods of climbing that a lot of you other poor bastards cannot.
I am having a bit of a struggle envisioning how having your bridge and tether can't be gotten out of the way for better bow or rifle maneuverability, though.
I'm not sure why everyone is putting all that crap in front of them, unless it's just the Kool-Aid.
112.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62627]I am having a bit of a struggle envisioning how having your bridge and tether can't be gotten out of the way for better bow or rifle maneuverability, though. I'm not sure why everyone is putting all that crap in front of them, unless it's just the Kool-Aid.[/QUOTE]
I haven't rifle hunted out of the saddle yet, rarely rifle hunt, but I was envisioning it while I was killing time. I think the bridge and tether would be a huge plus for gun hunting. You'd have a built in rifle rest no matter which way you had to move.
I haven't rifle hunted out of the saddle yet, rarely rifle hunt, but I was envisioning it while I was killing time. I think the bridge and tether would be a huge plus for gun hunting. You'd have a built in rifle rest no matter which way you had to move.
113.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62626]
Especially at the end of the season when I'd have to go around and gather up 5-6 sets of stands and ladder sticks. Wore myself out with that in 2019.
.[/QUOTE]
I can appreciate that. But rather than put out 5 or 6 stands why not put out a couple and then move them around instead of setting more and more. Does each set represent a wind direction or special situation?
Especially at the end of the season when I'd have to go around and gather up 5-6 sets of stands and ladder sticks. Wore myself out with that in 2019.
.[/QUOTE]
I can appreciate that. But rather than put out 5 or 6 stands why not put out a couple and then move them around instead of setting more and more. Does each set represent a wind direction or special situation?
114.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]
Hours and hours of seeing nothing, day after day. This year was tough, I saw 9 deer from the tree this year, 5 of them were buck. [/QUOTE]
You mean bucks.... LOL :wink
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]With the Covid damnpanic ... [/QUOTE]
Nice ... +11
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]all those people that are 'working from home', were out in full force too.[/QUOTE]
Either that or sitting home drinking and smoking stuff ... Mostly meats and cheeses, I'm sure.
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]I saw 2 groups of hikers, 2 women on horseback, and a herd of mountain bikers all from the tree this season. This in places where I never run into anyone. I'll be glad when this virus is gone so everyone can get back to doing whatever they did before, like go to the Outer Banks, Branson, Disney World, or wherever the hell they normally go.[/QUOTE]
Tell me more about the women on horseback ....
Hours and hours of seeing nothing, day after day. This year was tough, I saw 9 deer from the tree this year, 5 of them were buck. [/QUOTE]
You mean bucks.... LOL :wink
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]With the Covid damnpanic ... [/QUOTE]
Nice ... +11
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]all those people that are 'working from home', were out in full force too.[/QUOTE]
Either that or sitting home drinking and smoking stuff ... Mostly meats and cheeses, I'm sure.
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62623]I saw 2 groups of hikers, 2 women on horseback, and a herd of mountain bikers all from the tree this season. This in places where I never run into anyone. I'll be glad when this virus is gone so everyone can get back to doing whatever they did before, like go to the Outer Banks, Branson, Disney World, or wherever the hell they normally go.[/QUOTE]
Tell me more about the women on horseback ....
115.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
:-)116.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62628]I haven't rifle hunted out of the saddle yet, rarely rifle hunt, but I was envisioning it while I was killing time. I think the bridge and tether would be a huge plus for gun hunting. You'd have a built in rifle rest no matter which way you had to move.[/QUOTE]
Yes. I was thinking more about moving the instrument of choice around the gear, from one side to another, but if you had everything dialed in right you are correct: your ropes can become a rest.
A long time ago--before the internet--slings, rope and paracord were used to steady rifles from traditional treestands. :tu:
Yes. I was thinking more about moving the instrument of choice around the gear, from one side to another, but if you had everything dialed in right you are correct: your ropes can become a rest.
A long time ago--before the internet--slings, rope and paracord were used to steady rifles from traditional treestands. :tu:
117.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62631] :-)[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
+4 just because it was too easy ...
+7 otherwise, at least
Damn watermark! :tap:
:-)[/QUOTE]LOL ...
+4 just because it was too easy ...
+7 otherwise, at least
Damn watermark! :tap:
118.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62629]I can appreciate that. But rather than put out 5 or 6 stands why not put out a couple and then move them around instead of setting more and more. Does each set represent a wind direction or special situation?[/QUOTE]
Each set represents a pre-determined spot, normally an open area in the thick clearcut, or a trail intersection in the thick stuff. Most of these spots are a half mile apart or more, and to move the stand you normally have to tear it down, go through the thick brush, climb up or down the mountain, and move it somewhere else.
Over time I found it made more sense just to put a bunch of stands out. Didn't make as much noise and didn't require getting covered with sweat before a hunt. The bike helps to a point, but even then you've got to climb eventually.
I enjoyed the saddle for the reason I could just show up at one of these spots, or a new spot, and hang and hunt.
Each set represents a pre-determined spot, normally an open area in the thick clearcut, or a trail intersection in the thick stuff. Most of these spots are a half mile apart or more, and to move the stand you normally have to tear it down, go through the thick brush, climb up or down the mountain, and move it somewhere else.
Over time I found it made more sense just to put a bunch of stands out. Didn't make as much noise and didn't require getting covered with sweat before a hunt. The bike helps to a point, but even then you've got to climb eventually.
I enjoyed the saddle for the reason I could just show up at one of these spots, or a new spot, and hang and hunt.
119.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
This past season was a good example of why the saddle worked for me. I have made friends with a guy who I would see hunting an area I hunted for years. I'd been hunting there for several seasons and never saw anyone and then he started showing up. Normally I would've viewed him as an opponent, but I decided to get to know him and we've become friends. Cool dude.
He has 2 stands in the area I'm talking about and as we compared notes during the season we both were seeing almost nothing. Eventually I told him I was going to be hunting other areas and find some deer sign. I found areas that were ripped up with buck sign and got a shot at 2. He stayed put because that's where his stands were. The treestands were like an anchor to him, he wasn't going to go to the trouble of moving them, so he kept grinding it out.
That is a poor reason to hunt any area, just because that's where the stand is I hung in Sept, when the bucks were on a completely different pattern. That was your best guess in Sept. but things change.
That's equal to the rifle hunters who go to the same rock or tree, year after year, see nothing again, and complain that the Game Comm. sucks and there are no deer.
I don't see much difference between the two.
He has 2 stands in the area I'm talking about and as we compared notes during the season we both were seeing almost nothing. Eventually I told him I was going to be hunting other areas and find some deer sign. I found areas that were ripped up with buck sign and got a shot at 2. He stayed put because that's where his stands were. The treestands were like an anchor to him, he wasn't going to go to the trouble of moving them, so he kept grinding it out.
That is a poor reason to hunt any area, just because that's where the stand is I hung in Sept, when the bucks were on a completely different pattern. That was your best guess in Sept. but things change.
That's equal to the rifle hunters who go to the same rock or tree, year after year, see nothing again, and complain that the Game Comm. sucks and there are no deer.
I don't see much difference between the two.
120.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62630]Tell me more about the women on horseback ....[/QUOTE]
Let's just say the horses were probably glad to get back to the trailer and take a load off.
Let's just say the horses were probably glad to get back to the trailer and take a load off.
121.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
Yeah, I'm of the "cover the land with stands" school, but it is year-round work as you rotate the ones that are working and the ones you still have hope for (LOL) and the ones that need maintenance.
As I said previously, I don't usually move a stand in-season, just throw up a new stand in the new spot, but because pre-setting a new hang-on is pretty intrusive, there's less and less "bouncing around" done as I get older and more conservative in how much commotion I want to create after, say, mid-October.
If I hang a new set during the season I usually want to give it at least three days before I hunt it. Sometimes you can get away with less ...
But I mean, like, who really nos all this stuff anyway?
As I said previously, I don't usually move a stand in-season, just throw up a new stand in the new spot, but because pre-setting a new hang-on is pretty intrusive, there's less and less "bouncing around" done as I get older and more conservative in how much commotion I want to create after, say, mid-October.
If I hang a new set during the season I usually want to give it at least three days before I hunt it. Sometimes you can get away with less ...
But I mean, like, who really nos all this stuff anyway?
122.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62636]Let's just say the horses were probably glad to get back to the trailer and take a load off.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
I'm gonna hold it against you forever for ruining my illusions .... :sad:
LOL ...
I'm gonna hold it against you forever for ruining my illusions .... :sad:
123.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62637]Yeah, I'm of the "cover the land with stands" school, but it is year-round work as you rotate the ones that are working and the ones you still have hope for (LOL) and the ones that need maintenance.
As I said previously, I don't usually move a stand in-season, just throw up a new stand in the new spot, but because pre-setting a new hang-on is pretty intrusive, there's less and less "bouncing around" done as I get older and more conservative in how much commotion I want to create after, say, mid-October.
If I hang a new set during the season I usually want to give it at least three days before I hunt it. Sometimes you can get away with less ...
But I mean, like, who really nos all this stuff anyway?[/QUOTE]
If your food sources change, your stands need to change. Otherwise, it's just a matter of micro-adjustments.
In big rolling woods, to pre-set you have to predict deer movement by terrain and topography...or be willling to "bounce around" chasing sign. In flat woods you do the same, and you have the advantage of "traditional" travel patterns, but often (not always) you lose the advantage of strong funnels.
As I said previously, I don't usually move a stand in-season, just throw up a new stand in the new spot, but because pre-setting a new hang-on is pretty intrusive, there's less and less "bouncing around" done as I get older and more conservative in how much commotion I want to create after, say, mid-October.
If I hang a new set during the season I usually want to give it at least three days before I hunt it. Sometimes you can get away with less ...
But I mean, like, who really nos all this stuff anyway?[/QUOTE]
If your food sources change, your stands need to change. Otherwise, it's just a matter of micro-adjustments.
In big rolling woods, to pre-set you have to predict deer movement by terrain and topography...or be willling to "bounce around" chasing sign. In flat woods you do the same, and you have the advantage of "traditional" travel patterns, but often (not always) you lose the advantage of strong funnels.
124.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62639]If your food sources change, your stands need to change. Otherwise, it's just a matter of micro-adjustments.
In big rolling woods, to pre-set you have to predict deer movement by terrain and topography...or be willling to "bounce around" chasing sign. In flat woods you do the same, and you have the advantage of "traditional" travel patterns, but often (not always) you lose the advantage of strong funnels.[/QUOTE]
That was the case this year, good mast crop in isolated locations. 'Funnels' are usually a waste of time to hunt here on public land. If they're easy to spot on a map (saddles) or easy to see when walking around, there will be stands and bright eyes all over the place at those spots.
In big rolling woods, to pre-set you have to predict deer movement by terrain and topography...or be willling to "bounce around" chasing sign. In flat woods you do the same, and you have the advantage of "traditional" travel patterns, but often (not always) you lose the advantage of strong funnels.[/QUOTE]
That was the case this year, good mast crop in isolated locations. 'Funnels' are usually a waste of time to hunt here on public land. If they're easy to spot on a map (saddles) or easy to see when walking around, there will be stands and bright eyes all over the place at those spots.
125.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
That's the problem with hunting more physically challenging terrain: There are a lot of people clogging up the easier areas.
Whenever I hear somebody hyping an area that's remote or difficult, I always want to ask if that means nobody's hunting it, or if a fair number of guys are hunting it except for the spots you yourself will definitely die getting in and out of.
Whenever I hear somebody hyping an area that's remote or difficult, I always want to ask if that means nobody's hunting it, or if a fair number of guys are hunting it except for the spots you yourself will definitely die getting in and out of.
126.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
Thick, steep, or far. Those are the 3 limiting factors to hunter access. And limited access, and wet....5, 5 limiting factors.
Far being the easiest to overcome and won't always put you in a hot spot. Anytime you can combine at least 2, you might be alone.
Far being the easiest to overcome and won't always put you in a hot spot. Anytime you can combine at least 2, you might be alone.
127.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
+7
Six is right out! ...
LOL
:beer:
Six is right out! ...
LOL
:beer:
128.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
No one expects the limiting factors!
129.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
I wonder if we're gonna wind up at a place where people trying to cut weight and keep things simple are just standing on platforms with a lineman's belt, because ----except for the lineman's belt--- that's where we were back in the good old days.
LOL
LOL
130.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
I remember when I would sling my rifle over my neck and just shimmy up the tree. Wasn't very comfortable after the first hour.
131.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62645]I wonder if we're gonna wind up at a place where people trying to cut weight and keep things simple are just standing on platforms with a lineman's belt, because ----except for the lineman's belt--- that's where we were back in the good old days.
LOL[/QUOTE]
I can't post a pic of a red fox looking up at a pre-Swampy permanent stand on a firebreak at Camp Swampy. I'll keep trying.
In the meantime: you've been warned.
LOL[/QUOTE]
I can't post a pic of a red fox looking up at a pre-Swampy permanent stand on a firebreak at Camp Swampy. I'll keep trying.
In the meantime: you've been warned.
132.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62646]I remember when I would sling my rifle over my neck and just shimmy up the tree. Wasn't very comfortable after the first hour.[/QUOTE]
That's because you probably shot a Remington ....
That's because you probably shot a Remington ....
133.) luv2bowhunt - 12/30/2020
I had to shoot a buck with the opposite hand one time when I shimmied up a tree. He didn't seem to mind, died just like the other ones.
134.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62647]I can't post a pic of a red fox looking up at a pre-Swampy permanent stand on a firebreak at Camp Swampy. I'll keep trying.
In the meantime: you've been warned.[/QUOTE]
You big dummy.
In the meantime: you've been warned.[/QUOTE]
You big dummy.
135.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62647]I can't post a pic of a red fox looking up at a pre-Swampy permanent stand on a firebreak at Camp Swampy. I'll keep trying.
In the meantime: you've been warned.[/QUOTE]
You big dummy. You didn't think I was going to miss that opportunity did you?
In the meantime: you've been warned.[/QUOTE]
You big dummy. You didn't think I was going to miss that opportunity did you?
136.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62646]I remember when I would sling my rifle over my neck and just shimmy up the tree. Wasn't very comfortable after the first hour.[/QUOTE]
You were lucky, we used to dream of slinging a rifle over our necks and shimmying up a tree.
You were lucky, we used to dream of slinging a rifle over our necks and shimmying up a tree.
137.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62645]I wonder if we're gonna wind up at a place where people trying to cut weight and keep things simple are just standing on platforms with a lineman's belt, because ----except for the lineman's belt--- that's where we were back in the good old days.
LOL[/QUOTE]
+6 lol
LOL[/QUOTE]
+6 lol
138.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62649]I had to shoot a buck with the opposite hand one time when I shimmied up a tree. He didn't seem to mind, died just like the other ones.[/QUOTE]
So qwitcher bitchen ... :wink:nk::wave:
So qwitcher bitchen ... :wink:nk::wave:
139.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62651]
You big dummy. You didn't think I was going to miss that opportunity did you?
[/QUOTE]
We'll have to get CE in on this when he comes back from his hunting trip (LOL) in a day or two.
He's the one who likes to mess with redheads ...
You big dummy. You didn't think I was going to miss that opportunity did you?
[/QUOTE]We'll have to get CE in on this when he comes back from his hunting trip (LOL) in a day or two.
He's the one who likes to mess with redheads ...
140.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
These days, anyone who's not looking at an external frame pack with a freight hauler shelf is a dummy.
This is where it begins ... Unless you're okay the way you are.
:beer:
This is where it begins ... Unless you're okay the way you are.
:beer:
141.) Swamp Fox - 12/30/2020
What I mean is that hauling your gear has always been the main complaint of those who hunt from trees ...
142.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62656]These days, anyone who's not looking at an external frame pack with a freight hauler shelf is a dummy.
This is where it begins ... Unless you're okay the way you are.
:beer:[/QUOTE]
This is where it begins ... Unless you're okay the way you are.
:beer:[/QUOTE]
143.) bluecat - 12/30/2020
This sums up my season.
144.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62658][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bluecat;62659]
This sums up my season.[/QUOTE]
LOL...
That's classic...:grin:
:applause::applause::applause:
You capitalized on the previous play, focused on the fundamentals, and got it done.
+11 for the drive.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=bluecat;62659]
This sums up my season.[/QUOTE]
LOL...
That's classic...:grin:
:applause::applause::applause:
You capitalized on the previous play, focused on the fundamentals, and got it done.
+11 for the drive.
145.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I just try to take it one post at a time.
146.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I try and stay within myself.
147.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
There's no 'i' in team.
148.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
:laugh:
149.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
It's not about me.
150.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
The other forum members put their pants on the same way I do.
151.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
It's not over until Swampy locks up the thread.
152.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
:shocked:
LOL ...
Hey, I'm just postin' links here. Grindin' it out.
Maybe if the guys on Special Teams would execute, we wouldn't lose these threads by a frog hair ...
But, hey, I'm just spitballin' ... We've got a good team. We just need to put all the pieces together ...
LOL ...
Hey, I'm just postin' links here. Grindin' it out.
Maybe if the guys on Special Teams would execute, we wouldn't lose these threads by a frog hair ...
But, hey, I'm just spitballin' ... We've got a good team. We just need to put all the pieces together ...
153.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
We give 110%.
154.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
We're gonna learn from this.
155.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
I mean, stuff happens. Nobody's perfect every day of the week. But we need to bear down, get back to basics.
At the end of the day it's about winning.
At the end of the day it's about winning.
156.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
Fundamentals, mental toughness.
157.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
....And execution ...
Those are the three things.
And talent...
... Four things ...
The four things that are important are ...
Those are the three things.
And talent...
... Four things ...
The four things that are important are ...
158.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
[ATTACH]596[/ATTACH] ......
159.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62672]Fundamentals, mental toughness.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62673]....And execution ...
Those are the three things.
And talent...
... Four things ...
The four things that are important are ...[/QUOTE]
Attention to detail and follow through. Five things. Six things. I'll come in again.
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62673]....And execution ...
Those are the three things.
And talent...
... Four things ...
The four things that are important are ...[/QUOTE]
Attention to detail and follow through. Five things. Six things. I'll come in again.
160.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62675]Attention to detail and follow through. Five things. Six things. I'll come in again.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
Fixed it before I could get to it!
LOL ....
LOL ...
Fixed it before I could get to it!
LOL ....
161.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
When your life resembles a Monty Python skit, is it time to worry?
162.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
Attention to detale?
163.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I can't figure out why I didn't kill a deer, I was well hydrated.
164.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
Have you thought about switching to bottled water?
165.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I brought my 'A' game.
166.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
Maybe the city could run a line out there ...
167.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
All my camo matched too. No odd patterns.
168.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I've got to watch the film to see what happened. Where the breakdowns occurred. Missed assignments.
169.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
There is a pestilence upon this land! Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design well puns are under considerable economic stress at this period in history ...
170.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
It's not about the name on the back of the camo, it's about the name on the front.
171.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62685]There is a pestilence upon this land! Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design well puns are under considerable economic stress at this period in history ...[/QUOTE]
Have you thought about selling shrubberies?
Have you thought about selling shrubberies?
172.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
There's a lot of growth potential and upward mobility.
173.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
There's no grass ceiling.
Boo, hiss -2
Boo, hiss -2
174.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I should have played more to my strengths, puns satire, irony.
175.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
Bottled water? Maybe mineral water.
176.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
LOL ... Naw, I'll up that +5 so to you it feels like a solid 3...
Merry Christmas. :wink
Meself, I'm scratching for all the points I can get before Alex pulls the plug ...
Merry Christmas. :wink
Meself, I'm scratching for all the points I can get before Alex pulls the plug ...
177.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I also used a hac suit. It was a cheap knock-off of the hec suit. I think it actually amplified my electrical impulses. I used it as a hot spot on stand.
178.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62692]LOL ... Naw, I'll up that +5 so to you it feels like a solid 3...
Merry Christmas. :wink
Meself, I'm scratching for all the points I can get before Alex pulls the plug ...[/QUOTE]
Has he come out with prizes and their point values yet?
Last year I was able to get a package of gum-o-flage.
It tasted like crap.
Merry Christmas. :wink
Meself, I'm scratching for all the points I can get before Alex pulls the plug ...[/QUOTE]
Has he come out with prizes and their point values yet?
Last year I was able to get a package of gum-o-flage.
It tasted like crap.
179.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
LOL ....
When the time is right, let me tell you about wearable defibrillators .... LOL
When the time is right, let me tell you about wearable defibrillators .... LOL
180.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62693]I also used a hac suit. It was a cheap knock-off of the hec suit. I think it actually amplified my electrical impulses. I used it as a hot spot on stand.[/QUOTE]
LOL ....
When the time is right, let me tell you about wearable defibrillators .... LOL
LOL ....
When the time is right, let me tell you about wearable defibrillators .... LOL
181.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
Lol, I want to hear that one.
182.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I'm just glad it doesn't have anything to do with ED.
183.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
Does it?
184.) Swamp Fox - 12/31/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62699]Does it?[/QUOTE]
Who says there's no great content on HuntingCountry.com ? .... :re::wink:grin:
I'm seriously contemplating investing in a new pack system, which considering all the packs I already own is close to insane.
But I have almost always preferred internal frame packs for most of what I do. I've just never been even close to enthusiastic about carrying stands or weapons on them.
Because life has changed and I am probably going to be doing more hang-and-hunts, where I will not be completely pre-set as much as I have been in the past (steps are one thing, stands are another), I'm looking at external frame systems that might be better than my 1980's vintage relics for hauling gear ... LOL. I still use them for go-back-to-the-truck meat-hauling and the like, but for in-and-out EDC it's past time for an upgrade.
That's a long wind-up to pointing eastern saddle hunters toward the Kifaru Stryker, .22 Mag, and .44 Mag.
I wish I were getting a commission ...
Starting at the bottom of the capacity scale, but the theme remains consistent through the three:
(Cost and weight of frame not included.)
Would be interested in what you all think.
Who says there's no great content on HuntingCountry.com ? .... :re::wink:grin:
I'm seriously contemplating investing in a new pack system, which considering all the packs I already own is close to insane.
But I have almost always preferred internal frame packs for most of what I do. I've just never been even close to enthusiastic about carrying stands or weapons on them.
Because life has changed and I am probably going to be doing more hang-and-hunts, where I will not be completely pre-set as much as I have been in the past (steps are one thing, stands are another), I'm looking at external frame systems that might be better than my 1980's vintage relics for hauling gear ... LOL. I still use them for go-back-to-the-truck meat-hauling and the like, but for in-and-out EDC it's past time for an upgrade.
That's a long wind-up to pointing eastern saddle hunters toward the Kifaru Stryker, .22 Mag, and .44 Mag.
I wish I were getting a commission ...
Starting at the bottom of the capacity scale, but the theme remains consistent through the three:
(Cost and weight of frame not included.)
Would be interested in what you all think.
185.) bluecat - 12/31/2020
I'm kind of struck by the size of the main compartment in a lot of these packs including the one I bought last year, eberlestock X2
I really like the pack and am enjoying having a frame now. I just think they could make the main compartment larger. What would it hurt?
I don't think you could get a jacket in there.
I really like the pack and am enjoying having a frame now. I just think they could make the main compartment larger. What would it hurt?
I don't think you could get a jacket in there.
186.) Swamp Fox - 01/01/2021
I'm with you. I like a larger bag as well. I don't have to deal with the cold that you do, but I am "cold-blooded" and like to bundle up. For my bulkiest cold-weather gear, I use the bedroll straps on the bottom of a bag for my jacket or coat. I can usually fit the other layers I need inside, say, a 2800 bag. Anything smaller than that won't work for me past about mid-October (mornings).
When I need to, I take a piece of rope and roll my outer gear in a cylinder shape and tie it up at either end and sling the rope over my shoulder and across my chest. Works great.
The newer cold weather base layers are more compact than what I used to use, too. Not sure there's any way around your outer layers being bulky, though.
When I need to, I take a piece of rope and roll my outer gear in a cylinder shape and tie it up at either end and sling the rope over my shoulder and across my chest. Works great.
The newer cold weather base layers are more compact than what I used to use, too. Not sure there's any way around your outer layers being bulky, though.
187.) luv2bowhunt - 01/04/2021
If I was getting an Eberlestock, I'd be looking hard at this F1 Mainframe with the batwing pouches. Only thing that is keeping me from packs like these is the waist band will interfere with the saddle when wearing it in.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
188.) luv2bowhunt - 01/04/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62700]Would be interested in what you all think.[/QUOTE]
$600.00 for the bag and frame. I fold, I'm out.
$600.00 for the bag and frame. I fold, I'm out.
189.) Swamp Fox - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62726]$600.00 for the bag and frame. I fold, I'm out.[/QUOTE]
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
:tap::wink
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
:tap::wink
190.) Swamp Fox - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62725]If I was getting an Eberlestock, I'd be looking hard at this F1 Mainframe with the batwing pouches. Only thing that is keeping me from packs like these is the waist band will interfere with the saddle when wearing it in.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the video. That set-up has a lot of potential.
I don't understand the desire to wear a saddle in and out. (Well, I do, but you know what I mean.) If sweat and sag is not a problem, okay. But sweat is an issue here, and who wants to even have to think about sag? Buy the saddle you like and rig it the way you want to. The longer and tougher the hump, the more the saddle should come off your butt and go in the pack.
Change my mind.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the video. That set-up has a lot of potential.
I don't understand the desire to wear a saddle in and out. (Well, I do, but you know what I mean.) If sweat and sag is not a problem, okay. But sweat is an issue here, and who wants to even have to think about sag? Buy the saddle you like and rig it the way you want to. The longer and tougher the hump, the more the saddle should come off your butt and go in the pack.
Change my mind.
191.) DParker - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62726]$600.00 for the bag and frame. I fold, I'm out.[/QUOTE]
I think it'd look great with your $3,500 bicycle.
(That's not a dig, BTW...I'm contemplating getting one at some point myself.)
I think it'd look great with your $3,500 bicycle.
(That's not a dig, BTW...I'm contemplating getting one at some point myself.)
192.) Swamp Fox - 01/05/2021
Touche....
Insert your own umlaut.
:-)
Insert your own umlaut.
:-)
193.) luv2bowhunt - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=DParker;62729]I think it'd look great with your $3,500 bicycle.
(That's not a dig, BTW...I'm contemplating getting one at some point myself.)[/QUOTE]
LOL. I didn't pay nearly that much. If I remember correctly I got them before anyone wanted them and ONLY paid $2,000.00.
(That's not a dig, BTW...I'm contemplating getting one at some point myself.)[/QUOTE]
LOL. I didn't pay nearly that much. If I remember correctly I got them before anyone wanted them and ONLY paid $2,000.00.
194.) luv2bowhunt - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62728]I don't understand the desire to wear a saddle in and out. (Well, I do, but you know what I mean.) If sweat and sag is not a problem, okay. But sweat is an issue here, and who wants to even have to think about sag? Buy the saddle you like and rig it the way you want to. The longer and tougher the hump, the more the saddle should come off your butt and go in the pack.
Change my mind.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how or why anyone is having trouble keeping the saddle up while walking in. It doesn't move on me, hasn't even budged. I like to put it on at the vehicle because it's much easier to do in the light at the vehicle. Stepping through the bridge is not fun in the dark in the brush. Also can see the leg buckles easier at the vehicle. I like to have as little to do as possible once I arrive at the tree. Already bad enough having to hang the sticks and the platform.
Hot on the way in is not usually an issue here on a morning hunt. Even in the early season it's probably in the low 50's at best. On the last week of the season this past year it was in the teens on the way in. More layers were welcome at that point. Evening hunts in early October can be warm, 60's or low 70's but I'm not going to sweat much more with the saddle on than I would walking in with it off.
Change my mind.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how or why anyone is having trouble keeping the saddle up while walking in. It doesn't move on me, hasn't even budged. I like to put it on at the vehicle because it's much easier to do in the light at the vehicle. Stepping through the bridge is not fun in the dark in the brush. Also can see the leg buckles easier at the vehicle. I like to have as little to do as possible once I arrive at the tree. Already bad enough having to hang the sticks and the platform.
Hot on the way in is not usually an issue here on a morning hunt. Even in the early season it's probably in the low 50's at best. On the last week of the season this past year it was in the teens on the way in. More layers were welcome at that point. Evening hunts in early October can be warm, 60's or low 70's but I'm not going to sweat much more with the saddle on than I would walking in with it off.
195.) DParker - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62732]LOL. I didn't pay nearly that much. If I remember correctly I got them before anyone wanted them and ONLY paid $2,000.00.[/QUOTE]
So..how is it holding up so far?
So..how is it holding up so far?
196.) luv2bowhunt - 01/05/2021
OK, not perfect. Anything plastic on it I have broken and replaced already. I've broken the chain guard, reflectors, thumb throttle, display screen holder. Just got the new thumb throttle on, but technically I can't use it anymore in the State Forest.
Class 1 e-bikes allowed, Class 2 not allowed. A typical politician conceived law that makes little sense. I can engage the motor by pedaling but not by pushing a lever with my thumb. Same bike, same motor, same person, just can only activate in a certain way. Why? What's the real difference?
I see the next generation of e-bikes have improved on a lot of the features now, much more sophisticated. Hence the hefty price tags I suppose.
Class 1 e-bikes allowed, Class 2 not allowed. A typical politician conceived law that makes little sense. I can engage the motor by pedaling but not by pushing a lever with my thumb. Same bike, same motor, same person, just can only activate in a certain way. Why? What's the real difference?
I see the next generation of e-bikes have improved on a lot of the features now, much more sophisticated. Hence the hefty price tags I suppose.
197.) DParker - 01/05/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62735]A typical politician conceived law that makes little sense.[/QUOTE]
But you repeat yourself.
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62735]I see the next generation of e-bikes have improved on a lot of the features now, much more sophisticated. Hence the hefty price tags I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Well, that and they knew that once you bought one it would become trendy and demand would skyrocket.
But you repeat yourself.
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62735]I see the next generation of e-bikes have improved on a lot of the features now, much more sophisticated. Hence the hefty price tags I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Well, that and they knew that once you bought one it would become trendy and demand would skyrocket.
198.) Swamp Fox - 01/06/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62733]I'm not sure how or why anyone is having trouble keeping the saddle up while walking in. [/QUOTE]
It's related to medication the government has been secretly adding to the wells and water lines of white boys: Noassattall...
Note: This is different from a drug of the same name that girls slip in your drink when you go out to the bars.
So felllas, Keep an eye on your glasses ....
It's related to medication the government has been secretly adding to the wells and water lines of white boys: Noassattall...
Note: This is different from a drug of the same name that girls slip in your drink when you go out to the bars.
So felllas, Keep an eye on your glasses ....
199.) Swamp Fox - 01/06/2021
You don't want to be in the Police Blotter the next morning among the names of the other guys that got Noassatall....
200.) bluecat - 01/06/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62725]If I was getting an Eberlestock, I'd be looking hard at this F1 Mainframe with the batwing pouches. Only thing that is keeping me from packs like these is the waist band will interfere with the saddle when wearing it in.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
[/QUOTE]
It's sounding more and more like a chastity belt.
The 2 dump pouches I have on my saddle would have to be moved to the waistband of the pack and I'm not sure I really want to do that. The nicest part of the CAYS pack is they have moved the waist band higher so it doesn't interfere with the saddle when you wear it in.
[/QUOTE]
It's sounding more and more like a chastity belt.
201.) bluecat - 01/06/2021
202.) Swamp Fox - 01/10/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62735]
Class 1 e-bikes allowed, Class 2 not allowed. A typical politician conceived law that makes little sense. I can engage the motor by pedaling but not by pushing a lever with my thumb. Same bike, same motor, same person, just can only activate in a certain way. Why? What's the real difference?
[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem in SC. I am supposed to carry a deer out from the point of kill with the head attached, but after that I can drive around all over town with pieces parts ...
The regulation, or at least the DNR's description of it, has actually been worded MORE restrictively in the last few years, as far as I can tell/recall. I used to see some daylight between the "point of kill" and where you butchered your deer.
Not now:
[QUOTE]SC Code 50-11-400
It is unlawful for anyone in this State to have in his possession any deer with the head detached when the person is in transit from any woods, swamps, fields, or roads. Any person convicted of transporting a deer with the head detached must be fined not more than two hundred dollars or imprisoned for not more than thirty days.[/QUOTE]
Class 1 e-bikes allowed, Class 2 not allowed. A typical politician conceived law that makes little sense. I can engage the motor by pedaling but not by pushing a lever with my thumb. Same bike, same motor, same person, just can only activate in a certain way. Why? What's the real difference?
[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem in SC. I am supposed to carry a deer out from the point of kill with the head attached, but after that I can drive around all over town with pieces parts ...
The regulation, or at least the DNR's description of it, has actually been worded MORE restrictively in the last few years, as far as I can tell/recall. I used to see some daylight between the "point of kill" and where you butchered your deer.
Not now:
[QUOTE]SC Code 50-11-400
It is unlawful for anyone in this State to have in his possession any deer with the head detached when the person is in transit from any woods, swamps, fields, or roads. Any person convicted of transporting a deer with the head detached must be fined not more than two hundred dollars or imprisoned for not more than thirty days.[/QUOTE]
203.) Swamp Fox - 01/10/2021
Personally, I would like to be imprisoned for up to thirty days so I can get a break from the nonsense ...
204.) Swamp Fox - 01/10/2021
....
205.) crookedeye - 01/17/2021
i finally bit the bullet and ordered the cruzer cause i like to cruz..are how ever you spell it. well i least now i wont have to worry about tieing off and breaking my neck. ive been lucky threw my years kinda like floyd was when swampy almost killed him..
Now we need to talk platforms for it..
i have a lonewolf sit and climb for sale its old , but hardly used..i have new belts a hazmore seat on it plus i have a summit seat that works good with it..i have the extra long belts also plus the hand climber seat if anyone wants a good deal on it let me no.
Now we need to talk platforms for it..
i have a lonewolf sit and climb for sale its old , but hardly used..i have new belts a hazmore seat on it plus i have a summit seat that works good with it..i have the extra long belts also plus the hand climber seat if anyone wants a good deal on it let me no.
206.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62872]i finally bit the bullet and ordered the cruzer cause i like to cruz...are how ever you spell it.[/QUOTE]
Do you see what you've done here, Luv2? You've led poor old innocent CrOoKeDeYe down the gnrden path ...
CE, I think I've seen some stuff on using the LW handclimber as a platform. Look into it before you let it go too cheap. I'm not sure how well it will do with the side pressure some guys want to put into a saddle platform, but as a simple place to take a load off, I'm sure it could be made to work.
Do you see what you've done here, Luv2? You've led poor old innocent CrOoKeDeYe down the gnrden path ...
CE, I think I've seen some stuff on using the LW handclimber as a platform. Look into it before you let it go too cheap. I'm not sure how well it will do with the side pressure some guys want to put into a saddle platform, but as a simple place to take a load off, I'm sure it could be made to work.
207.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Congrats on the purchase! I'm interested to hear how you like it and how it works out for you.
Platforms are an entirely different adventure. You have to decide what matters most to you. Weight, size, cost, they all come into play for what you're looking for. I wanted something that wasn't too heavy but still had a decent amount of foot space. I just didn't like the layout of the Tethrd Predator, so I ended up with the OOAL Ridge Runner.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
Platforms are an entirely different adventure. You have to decide what matters most to you. Weight, size, cost, they all come into play for what you're looking for. I wanted something that wasn't too heavy but still had a decent amount of foot space. I just didn't like the layout of the Tethrd Predator, so I ended up with the OOAL Ridge Runner.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
208.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Remember CrOOkeDEye, these other guys are against us now. bluecat is a non-believer & Swamp Fox is all talk. He'll never buy one, he just likes to sound like he's interested and then talks behind our backs.
I'm the only one who understands you...........sucks to be you. :wink
I'm the only one who understands you...........sucks to be you. :wink
209.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Are you going to use knee pads? Some guys put a pad up strapped to the tree and rest their knees on that. I opted for knee pads, didn't want to have another thing to strap around the tree.
...I used to have padding on/in my knees, now it's all gristle and bone. Like when you take all the meat off of a chicken leg and thigh, that's what I'm dealing with now.
...I used to have padding on/in my knees, now it's all gristle and bone. Like when you take all the meat off of a chicken leg and thigh, that's what I'm dealing with now.
210.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
...and remember, if Swampy tells you to use the LW hand climber as a platform....you know what not to do.
211.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Remember when we used to have hundreds of other guys posting.......man we had discussions then. Mostly about whisker biscuits, doe tags, and baiting.
212.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
I remember Kenny, he corrupted Swamp Fox. He was a cool guy until Kenny got a hold of him.
213.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
DParker and I were right on Trump. We knew what he was in 2016, just sayin'.
...but I don't want to get into it, Biden and Harris are going to turn us into mind numbed robots......never look into their eyes on TV.
...but I don't want to get into it, Biden and Harris are going to turn us into mind numbed robots......never look into their eyes on TV.
214.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Can you even imagine Biden in 4 years. :shocked:
215.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
I've been all alone on here for 7 hours. Can you imagine being alone on ArcheryWorld for even 7 minutes. BULLZ-ear was on all night and JC-WI was on starting at 4:00 AM.
You were never posting alone.
....I miss billyb & Ohbie. :cool:
You were never posting alone.
....I miss billyb & Ohbie. :cool:
216.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
...and Wild Bob.
.................and Floyd & Hoyt-em & JimP & GoBucks & Adobe dave & Lonescout & dino.....
Not Jon though, he hates my guts.
.................and Floyd & Hoyt-em & JimP & GoBucks & Adobe dave & Lonescout & dino.....
Not Jon though, he hates my guts.
217.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
Why do you think Alex keeps this site up?? Maybe it's some kind of tax write off or something. Can't be the content or list of active members.
218.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
I think he's going to end it very soon. He's been in a major depression lately since he found out the Beastie Boys aren't getting back together.
219.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62879] I just didn't like the layout of the Tethrd Predator, so I ended up with the OOAL Ridge Runner.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
[/QUOTE]
From research to-date, so far I like the Scout or the Lone Wolf Custom Gear Ambush or their full-sized platform ... I'll look at the video later. Prolly some new ideas in there.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
[/QUOTE]
From research to-date, so far I like the Scout or the Lone Wolf Custom Gear Ambush or their full-sized platform ... I'll look at the video later. Prolly some new ideas in there.
220.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62882]...and remember, if Swampy tells you to use the LW hand climber as a platform....you know what not to do.[/QUOTE]
LOL ....
LOL ....
221.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62889]Why do you think Alex keeps this site up?? Maybe it's some kind of tax write off or something. Can't be the content or list of active members.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62890]I think he's going to end it very soon. He's been in a major depression lately since he found out the Beastie Boys aren't getting back together.[/QUOTE]
When you say you think he's going to end it very soon, you're talking about the site, right?
I mean, I know the forum right now isn't all he ever dreamed of---and it's tough when your band fades away --- but think of all the other joy in life ....
[Do you think we need to go to PMs to plan an intervention?]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62890]I think he's going to end it very soon. He's been in a major depression lately since he found out the Beastie Boys aren't getting back together.[/QUOTE]
When you say you think he's going to end it very soon, you're talking about the site, right?
I mean, I know the forum right now isn't all he ever dreamed of---and it's tough when your band fades away --- but think of all the other joy in life ....
[Do you think we need to go to PMs to plan an intervention?]
222.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
I haven't figured out if I'd prefer leaning or sitting if I were to use a saddle. Sitting looks particularly uncomfortable, to me at least.
Ahmoan go out on a limb and say I'd prolly do both, though. I'd probably have no hunts shorter than three hours (tree time). Most sits would be between four and six hours, just guessing.
Does that tell you anything about tethers and bridges that I need to know about? Not real interested in destroying my knees any further.
Ahmoan go out on a limb and say I'd prolly do both, though. I'd probably have no hunts shorter than three hours (tree time). Most sits would be between four and six hours, just guessing.
Does that tell you anything about tethers and bridges that I need to know about? Not real interested in destroying my knees any further.
223.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62893][Do you think we need to go to PMs to plan an intervention?][/QUOTE]
Let's just storm the place. You wear the Viking helmet & I'll go full tactical with zip ties.
Let's just storm the place. You wear the Viking helmet & I'll go full tactical with zip ties.
224.) luv2bowhunt - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62894]I haven't figured out if I'd prefer leaning or sitting if I were to use a saddle. Sitting looks particularly uncomfortable, to me at least.
Ahmoan go out on a limb and say I'd prolly do both, though. I'd probably have no hunts shorter than three hours (tree time). Most sits would be between four and six hours, just guessing.
Does that tell you anything about tethers and bridges that I need to know about? Not real interested in destroying my knees any further.[/QUOTE]
You'll end up doing both to break up the monotony. Swinging around on the sides is a nice break too. The big thing I learned about the bridge is, that is where the comfort/discomfort comes from. I found a fairly long bridge length was most comfortable. Might even go a little longer next time.
Tether height is something I'll play with more next season too. Not sure where the sweet spot is, I'm thinking I could go lower with it.
Ahmoan go out on a limb and say I'd prolly do both, though. I'd probably have no hunts shorter than three hours (tree time). Most sits would be between four and six hours, just guessing.
Does that tell you anything about tethers and bridges that I need to know about? Not real interested in destroying my knees any further.[/QUOTE]
You'll end up doing both to break up the monotony. Swinging around on the sides is a nice break too. The big thing I learned about the bridge is, that is where the comfort/discomfort comes from. I found a fairly long bridge length was most comfortable. Might even go a little longer next time.
Tether height is something I'll play with more next season too. Not sure where the sweet spot is, I'm thinking I could go lower with it.
225.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62895]Let's just storm the place. You wear the Viking helmet & I'll go full tactical with zip ties.[/QUOTE]
I was *HOPiNG* I could wear the Viking helmet!!!!
:grin::grin::grin:
I was *HOPiNG* I could wear the Viking helmet!!!!
:grin::grin::grin:
226.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62879]Congrats on the purchase! I'm interested to hear how you like it and how it works out for you.
Platforms are an entirely different adventure. You have to decide what matters most to you. Weight, size, cost, they all come into play for what you're looking for. I wanted something that wasn't too heavy but still had a decent amount of foot space. I just didn't like the layout of the Tethrd Predator, so I ended up with the OOAL Ridge Runner.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
[/QUOTE]
That guy has a big deck ....
The info on the Trophyline Mission was helpful. :tu:
Platforms are an entirely different adventure. You have to decide what matters most to you. Weight, size, cost, they all come into play for what you're looking for. I wanted something that wasn't too heavy but still had a decent amount of foot space. I just didn't like the layout of the Tethrd Predator, so I ended up with the OOAL Ridge Runner.
There are new platforms popping up everyday, some of them are really big like a flipping treestand. You have to decide what works best for you. I'm thinking of getting something smaller and lighter like the Solo Scout for quick hunts where I want to be even lighter.
[/QUOTE]
That guy has a big deck ....
The info on the Trophyline Mission was helpful. :tu:
227.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
One thing that's been nagging me for a while (that has to do with hunting):
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...
228.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62883]Remember when we used to have hundreds of other guys posting.......man we had discussions then. Mostly about whisker biscuits, doe tags, and baiting.[/QUOTE]
I do not recall that ...
I do not recall that ...
229.) bluecat - 01/18/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62899]One thing that's been nagging me for a while (that has to do with hunting):
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...[/QUOTE]
^^^^^^^^^^^
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...[/QUOTE]
^^^^^^^^^^^
230.) luv2bowhunt - 01/19/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62899]One thing that's been nagging me for a while (that has to do with hunting):
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...[/QUOTE]
From what I've read and seen on videos, the saddle is supposed to be more comfortable for long sits. Why don't you do an all day hunt sitting in a rock harness and report back to us?
Why not just hunt out of a rock harness? Is it an angle of the tether or tether and bridge thing? Is wearing the "diaper" supposed to be more comfortable? Maybe I'm missing something simple ....
Wait ...[/QUOTE]
From what I've read and seen on videos, the saddle is supposed to be more comfortable for long sits. Why don't you do an all day hunt sitting in a rock harness and report back to us?
231.) Swamp Fox - 01/19/2021
I'll see what I can do. I'm in getting-ready-to-fish mode now.
Well, that and cleaning up some other messes ....
But I'll see if I can pull some gear together and at least get a quick impression.
Well, that and cleaning up some other messes ....
But I'll see if I can pull some gear together and at least get a quick impression.
232.) Swamp Fox - 01/19/2021
What I really need now is a cameraman ...
Bueller... Bueller?...
Bueller... Bueller?...
233.) Swamp Fox - 01/19/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62904]What I really need now is a cameraman ...
Bueller... Bueller?...[/QUOTE]
Someone nice... And not too expensive ....
Bueller... Bueller?...[/QUOTE]
Someone nice... And not too expensive ....
234.) Swamp Fox - 01/19/2021
Also, it would be great if she had huge ... tracts of land ....
235.) bluecat - 01/19/2021
What about a fanatical devotion to the pope? Oh, what dark times are these.
236.) Swamp Fox - 01/19/2021
Well, those are givens.
But also, she has to have a certain special something...
But also, she has to have a certain special something...
237.) crookedeye - 01/24/2021
there just jealious there not saddle hunters..non saddle hunters talk that way.. So far after all the information.... im doing the opposite of want swampy is saying..and i got to tell you things are going pretty good now
238.) crookedeye - 01/24/2021
i might get the mission plateform..thats alot of freaking money though for the saddle now a platform..notice how i didnt call it a stand, but a platform.. we saddle hunters call it that
239.) Swamp Fox - 01/24/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62927]there just jealious there not saddle hunters..non saddle hunters talk that way.. So far after all the information.... im doing the opposite of want swampy is saying..and i got to tell you things are going pretty good now[/QUOTE]
LOL .... I'm glad I've made your life better, even in a reverse way :ach:... Maybe that's what I'm here on the planet for ...
:wink :wave:
LOL .... I'm glad I've made your life better, even in a reverse way :ach:... Maybe that's what I'm here on the planet for ...
:wink :wave:
240.) Swamp Fox - 01/24/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62928]i might get the mission plateform..thats alot of freaking money though for the saddle now a platform..notice how i didnt call it a stand, but a platform.. we saddle hunters call it that[/QUOTE]
You noticed that, too ... LOL ... :shh: .... +7 at least
You noticed that, too ... LOL ... :shh: .... +7 at least
241.) crookedeye - 01/24/2021
im looking more into the plateforms..i did see the video of the guy using the lonewolf hand climber seat..i thought to myself.swampy cant be right look elsewhere.
242.) crookedeye - 01/24/2021
did you ever get that ar 15 together?
243.) crookedeye - 01/24/2021
like this next year hunting season.. ill be able to say... hey luv 2 are you using youre saddle this weekend..he"ll say yep..and ill go.. me to... while swampy and the rest of the guys arre sittijng arouind the table twiitling there thumbs thinking about using there rock climbing harness for a saddle
244.) Swamp Fox - 01/24/2021
You two make a nice couple ...
There's probably a story there we can write about, next time the mood strikes ...
LOL ...
:wink :poke:
There's probably a story there we can write about, next time the mood strikes ...
LOL ...
:wink :poke:
245.) Swamp Fox - 01/25/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62935]im looking more into the plateforms..i did see the video of the guy using the lonewolf hand climber seat..i thought to myself.swampy cant be right look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
:wave:
:wave:
246.) luv2bowhunt - 01/25/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62941]like this next year hunting season.. ill be able to say... hey luv 2 are you using youre saddle this weekend..he"ll say yep..and ill go.. me to... while swampy and the rest of the guys arre sittijng arouind the table twiitling there thumbs thinking about using there rock climbing harness for a saddle[/QUOTE]
We should get Alex to start a new website "SaddleCountry". It would just be me and you though. But at least Swampy wouldn't be on there telling us what we shouldn't not do.
He keeps pushing that Lone Wolf climber seat..........can't be any good.
We should get Alex to start a new website "SaddleCountry". It would just be me and you though. But at least Swampy wouldn't be on there telling us what we shouldn't not do.
He keeps pushing that Lone Wolf climber seat..........can't be any good.
247.) luv2bowhunt - 01/25/2021
That climber is noisy on the tree in the video, also looks like a ton of effort. It also means you'd have to have a telephone pole tree to hunt out of. I like trees with branches, much easier to blend in.
That's dumb, why did you even post that Chris? You're not going to be part of SaddleCountry.
I'd sell the Lone Wolf and move on.
That's dumb, why did you even post that Chris? You're not going to be part of SaddleCountry.
I'd sell the Lone Wolf and move on.
248.) luv2bowhunt - 01/25/2021
When SaddleCountry goes live you all will be jealous. I'll bet we could get a whole bunch of people on there, like 7 or 8 at least. Compared to the 4 or 5 you have on here.
249.) luv2bowhunt - 01/25/2021
Alex, SaddleCountry is where it's at. Much better than that DeathCountry major bummer site you have. I read the stuff on there for a week and wanted to lay my head on the train tracks.
#suicidewatch #itsallover #depressionoverload
#suicidewatch #itsallover #depressionoverload
250.) Swamp Fox - 01/25/2021
[I][B]LOL To All That[/B][/I] ^^^^
[Coincidentally, this is the title of my upcoming book about my time on the internet, especially hunting forums, especially Alex's ... With apologies to Robert Graves.]
I did think that climbing method was noisy. Major turn-off.
But my original point was its use just as a platform (LOL) although he makes a good point about the multi-use benefit vs. the single benefit of sticks or steps. So that's kind of intriguing.
But then again, when you put a climber seat and a decent-sized platform together, what do you have? A climbing treestand .... LOL.
Yeah, it might only weigh 7 or 9 pounds, but if it's noisy and best suited for limbless trees how much good is it really doing you?
[Coincidentally, this is the title of my upcoming book about my time on the internet, especially hunting forums, especially Alex's ... With apologies to Robert Graves.]
I did think that climbing method was noisy. Major turn-off.
But my original point was its use just as a platform (LOL) although he makes a good point about the multi-use benefit vs. the single benefit of sticks or steps. So that's kind of intriguing.
But then again, when you put a climber seat and a decent-sized platform together, what do you have? A climbing treestand .... LOL.
Yeah, it might only weigh 7 or 9 pounds, but if it's noisy and best suited for limbless trees how much good is it really doing you?
251.) Swamp Fox - 01/25/2021
Looking around briefly, I don't see anything out of the ATA show that we haven't mentioned already ... but PLEASE correct me if I've missed something. I only took a quick peek at a few sites. My attention span for this kind of thing is very limited these days.
I'm most interested in a matched platform and sticks combo (four or more sticks ride gracefully on the platform) and/or a combo that carries well on an external frame pack.
I'm most interested in a matched platform and sticks combo (four or more sticks ride gracefully on the platform) and/or a combo that carries well on an external frame pack.
252.) Swamp Fox - 01/25/2021
BTW ... Kudos to Luv2 for using the phrase "SaddleCountry" multiple times ... We have 4 viewers right now, which proves that writing for Search Engine Optimization really pays off ...
253.) Swamp Fox - 01/25/2021
Of course, half of those four are perverts ...
254.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62971]Of course, half of those four are perverts ...[/QUOTE]
You mean city & Ventilator were on??
You mean city & Ventilator were on??
255.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
SaddleCountry is the future, Alex you need to move fast before somebody sucks up that name. I don't want to be a moderator though, I couldn't handle the posts 6 or 7 people make on a site.
256.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
I remember when Alex went away and put his friend in charge on BowCountry. Man we shredded him like last years check stubs. I tried to insert an image in a thread title, locked the whole thing up for the weekend.
Alex was mad.......that was the high point for me. Been a long down hill slide since then. But SaddleCountry is what will save us all now.
Alex was mad.......that was the high point for me. Been a long down hill slide since then. But SaddleCountry is what will save us all now.
257.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
SaddleCountry....where amateurs & non-believers tell you everything you don't need to know about what they don't know or like about saddle hunting.
People will flock to this site.
People will flock to this site.
258.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
You sure spend a lot of time on here lately telling us how much you hate the site. Just sayin.
259.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
Is it stand envy? We can work through it if your willing.
260.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
Help us, help you.
261.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;62978]You sure spend a lot of time on here lately telling us how much you hate the site. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to consult with CRoOkeDEyE but I'm pretty sure you're not going to be invited to SaddleCountry since you're a non-believer.
Unless you swear to only talk about how you dislike saddles & saddle hunters, we would consider that saddle related.
I'll have to consult with CRoOkeDEyE but I'm pretty sure you're not going to be invited to SaddleCountry since you're a non-believer.
Unless you swear to only talk about how you dislike saddles & saddle hunters, we would consider that saddle related.
262.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
I wouldn't say I'm a non-believer, I just don't understand the benefit.
263.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;62978]You sure spend a lot of time on here lately telling us how much you hate the site. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bluecat;62979]Is it stand envy? We can work through it if your willing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bluecat;62980]Help us, help you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62981]I'll have to consult with CRoOkeDEyE but I'm pretty sure you're not going to be invited to SaddleCountry since you're a non-believer.
Unless you swear to only talk about how you dislike saddles & saddle hunters, we would consider that saddle related.[/QUOTE]
Finally!!!
....Someone who understands the difference between hijacking and not hijacking!!
:wink:applause::applause::grin::wave:
[QUOTE=bluecat;62979]Is it stand envy? We can work through it if your willing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bluecat;62980]Help us, help you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62981]I'll have to consult with CRoOkeDEyE but I'm pretty sure you're not going to be invited to SaddleCountry since you're a non-believer.
Unless you swear to only talk about how you dislike saddles & saddle hunters, we would consider that saddle related.[/QUOTE]
Finally!!!
....Someone who understands the difference between hijacking and not hijacking!!
:wink:applause::applause::grin::wave:
264.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
Go easy on Luv2.
Just because he's hiding my great-great grandmother's silverware under the floorboards of his house doesn't mean he deserves EXTRA punishment ...
Just because he's hiding my great-great grandmother's silverware under the floorboards of his house doesn't mean he deserves EXTRA punishment ...
265.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;62982]I wouldn't say I'm a non-believer, I just don't understand the benefit.[/QUOTE]
It's lighter, it's easier to move around, it's actually easier to shoot all directions, and it helps you hide from the deer. You said that deer were picking you out of the trees you were in when you were in a treestand.
Let's say you have a trail crossing you're watching, with a treestand you pretty much have to face it. With the saddle, you can stay on the back side and avoid alot of eye contact, especially from deer you're not interested in.
I can hardly think of any advantages I had hunting from the treestand compared to the saddle. Maybe a little more comfy on long sits but that's about it. The saddle is better for me in almost any other category I can think of.
It's lighter, it's easier to move around, it's actually easier to shoot all directions, and it helps you hide from the deer. You said that deer were picking you out of the trees you were in when you were in a treestand.
Let's say you have a trail crossing you're watching, with a treestand you pretty much have to face it. With the saddle, you can stay on the back side and avoid alot of eye contact, especially from deer you're not interested in.
I can hardly think of any advantages I had hunting from the treestand compared to the saddle. Maybe a little more comfy on long sits but that's about it. The saddle is better for me in almost any other category I can think of.
266.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;62982]I wouldn't say I'm a non-believer, I just don't understand the benefit.[/QUOTE]
There are several benefits "advertised" but whether they really work is a different question.
Light weight: Show me the money for a practical system that's not a torture test. I'm drawing the line at a generous 12 pounds semi-arbitrarily, and will say I don't think even 10 pounds makes you a mobile-hunting ninja.
Mobile hunting: Unless you're tramping back and forth through thick brush with a shitty pack system, I don't know why you are more stealthy with a saddle + climbing system than a hang-on kit of similar weight, packed and handled well.
There are several benefits "advertised" but whether they really work is a different question.
Light weight: Show me the money for a practical system that's not a torture test. I'm drawing the line at a generous 12 pounds semi-arbitrarily, and will say I don't think even 10 pounds makes you a mobile-hunting ninja.
Mobile hunting: Unless you're tramping back and forth through thick brush with a shitty pack system, I don't know why you are more stealthy with a saddle + climbing system than a hang-on kit of similar weight, packed and handled well.
267.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
Okay, so you are trying to watch a trail from the backside of the tree -and then move to the front for a shot once a deer appears.
Seems like a lot of movement to me. Where am I wrong?
Also being able to sit comfortably (all day) is key.
I didn't get picked off because of the tree or location. I got picked off reaching for my bow that was behind me.
Seems like a lot of movement to me. Where am I wrong?
Also being able to sit comfortably (all day) is key.
I didn't get picked off because of the tree or location. I got picked off reaching for my bow that was behind me.
268.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
One of my favorite sets is where I can see a specific location over my left shoulder (right-hand shooter) and get a shot back there while seated.
There are many situations I've had where I really need to watch 360 around me, and the tree cover isn't great. If I can't sit facing that backside trail, I'll set my stand on the back of the tree. I doubt I could get a shot off if I had to do anything other than turn over my shoulder and shoot. (Low sets --under 20 feet-- brushy transition areas...)
(Meaning if my stand faced the trail, I would usually be picked off.)
There are many situations I've had where I really need to watch 360 around me, and the tree cover isn't great. If I can't sit facing that backside trail, I'll set my stand on the back of the tree. I doubt I could get a shot off if I had to do anything other than turn over my shoulder and shoot. (Low sets --under 20 feet-- brushy transition areas...)
(Meaning if my stand faced the trail, I would usually be picked off.)
269.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62986]There are several benefits "advertised" but whether they really work is a different question.
Light weight: Show me the money for a practical system that's not a torture test. I'm drawing the line at a generous 12 pounds semi-arbitrarily, and will say I don't think even 10 pounds makes you a mobile-hunting ninja.
Mobile hunting: Unless you're tramping back and forth through thick brush with a shitty pack system, I don't know why you are more stealthy with a saddle + climbing system than a hang-on kit of similar weight, packed and handled well.[/QUOTE]
Next season I'll be at 7 1/2 lbs with sticks & a platform. May add in a strap-on step that weighs a couple ounces and will definitely use the knaider. That will easily get me 20 feet up. Plenty in the woods I'm hunting.
You seem to forget, I've got 25 years experience carting around steps/sticks and a hang-on stand. I know what it feels like to cart that around up hills, down hills, lug it up the tree to hang it, tear it down, move to the next spot. I've done it countless times, more than most hunters ever will because of the number of stands I'd put out each year. I know from experience, it was way easier this year moving around with the saddle than dealing with a hang-on stand.
I've done both, others haven't.
Light weight: Show me the money for a practical system that's not a torture test. I'm drawing the line at a generous 12 pounds semi-arbitrarily, and will say I don't think even 10 pounds makes you a mobile-hunting ninja.
Mobile hunting: Unless you're tramping back and forth through thick brush with a shitty pack system, I don't know why you are more stealthy with a saddle + climbing system than a hang-on kit of similar weight, packed and handled well.[/QUOTE]
Next season I'll be at 7 1/2 lbs with sticks & a platform. May add in a strap-on step that weighs a couple ounces and will definitely use the knaider. That will easily get me 20 feet up. Plenty in the woods I'm hunting.
You seem to forget, I've got 25 years experience carting around steps/sticks and a hang-on stand. I know what it feels like to cart that around up hills, down hills, lug it up the tree to hang it, tear it down, move to the next spot. I've done it countless times, more than most hunters ever will because of the number of stands I'd put out each year. I know from experience, it was way easier this year moving around with the saddle than dealing with a hang-on stand.
I've done both, others haven't.
270.) luv2bowhunt - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;62987]Okay, so you are trying to watch a trail from the backside of the tree -and then move to the front for a shot once a deer appears.
Seems like a lot of movement to me. Where am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
It's not as much movement as you might think if you are taking your time about it. This year the buck had no clue I was even there until I stopped him.
I said the treestand was more comfortable for an all day sit, that didn't mean the saddle was uncomfortable. I found my back was way more comfortable with the saddle on an all day sit. Hang-on stands always hurt my back eventually during a sit.
Seems like a lot of movement to me. Where am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
It's not as much movement as you might think if you are taking your time about it. This year the buck had no clue I was even there until I stopped him.
I said the treestand was more comfortable for an all day sit, that didn't mean the saddle was uncomfortable. I found my back was way more comfortable with the saddle on an all day sit. Hang-on stands always hurt my back eventually during a sit.
271.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62989]
You seem to forget, I've got 25 years experience carting around steps/sticks and a hang-on stand. I know what it feels like to cart that around up hills, down hills, lug it up the tree to hang it, tear it down, move to the next spot. I've done it countless times, more than most hunters ever will because of the number of stands I'd put out each year. [/QUOTE]
I haven't forgotten shit. :wink
That's why I study your angry posts, even though you think I don't ... LOL
Looking forward to your gear list, and your advice.
You seem to forget, I've got 25 years experience carting around steps/sticks and a hang-on stand. I know what it feels like to cart that around up hills, down hills, lug it up the tree to hang it, tear it down, move to the next spot. I've done it countless times, more than most hunters ever will because of the number of stands I'd put out each year. [/QUOTE]
I haven't forgotten shit. :wink
That's why I study your angry posts, even though you think I don't ... LOL
Looking forward to your gear list, and your advice.
272.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
I do suck, that is a given.
One thing that I have on my stand I purchased this year is a bar for your feet. It's amazing how being able to put your feet on that bar helps your back.
I'm not here to poke fun (well, let me start again). I'm just trying to get the facts ma'am. Just the facts.
I'll put a cedar tree set up against anything, but of course they have to be present in the location you want to hunt. Someone should really do a story on the cedar tree...Maybe call it something clever like 'Consider the Cedar'.
One thing that I have on my stand I purchased this year is a bar for your feet. It's amazing how being able to put your feet on that bar helps your back.
I'm not here to poke fun (well, let me start again). I'm just trying to get the facts ma'am. Just the facts.
I'll put a cedar tree set up against anything, but of course they have to be present in the location you want to hunt. Someone should really do a story on the cedar tree...Maybe call it something clever like 'Consider the Cedar'.
273.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
LOL ...
Let me search the memory banks ...
Let me search the memory banks ...
274.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62989]Next season I'll be at 7 1/2 lbs with sticks & a platform. May add in a strap-on step that weighs a couple ounces and will definitely use the knaider. That will easily get me 20 feet up. [/QUOTE]
275.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
Do you guys feel like 20 feet up is a little excessive? Asking for a friend.
276.) Swamp Fox - 01/26/2021
No.
(Answering for a friend.)
Thirty-five feet, now we're talking ....
LOL...
(Answering for a friend.)
Thirty-five feet, now we're talking ....
LOL...
277.) bluecat - 01/26/2021
Thirty-five feet? Why stop there?
278.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
'Cause you know it'll be a mess any higher if you have to go Number Two?
You have to factor in the time down and back up ...
You have to factor in the time down and back up ...
279.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
Trending now on Archery Talk:[B][I][I] How Do You Relieve Yourself In A Saddle?[/I][/I][/B]
Hell, we did that one months ago .....
Hell, we did that one months ago .....
280.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
And we only have, like, 7 members ...
281.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62988]One of my favorite sets is where I can see a specific location over my left shoulder (right-hand shooter) and get a shot back there while seated.
There are many situations I've had where I really need to watch 360 around me, and the tree cover isn't great. If I can't sit facing that backside trail, I'll set my stand on the back of the tree. I doubt I could get a shot off if I had to do anything other than turn over my shoulder and shoot. (Low sets --under 20 feet-- brushy transition areas...)
(Meaning if my stand faced the trail, I would usually be picked off.)[/QUOTE]
Akshully, you can be too exposed much higher than that, now that I re-read what I was babbling earlier. So let's go 25 feet for the sake of sticking a number in there. Think lone tall pine trees in a new cut-over or burn.
I like hiding behind the tree. But a lot of places ""popping out" against the sky to take a shot just isn't gonna work ... Not even on the dumbest of my deer.
There are many situations I've had where I really need to watch 360 around me, and the tree cover isn't great. If I can't sit facing that backside trail, I'll set my stand on the back of the tree. I doubt I could get a shot off if I had to do anything other than turn over my shoulder and shoot. (Low sets --under 20 feet-- brushy transition areas...)
(Meaning if my stand faced the trail, I would usually be picked off.)[/QUOTE]
Akshully, you can be too exposed much higher than that, now that I re-read what I was babbling earlier. So let's go 25 feet for the sake of sticking a number in there. Think lone tall pine trees in a new cut-over or burn.
I like hiding behind the tree. But a lot of places ""popping out" against the sky to take a shot just isn't gonna work ... Not even on the dumbest of my deer.
282.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
Somebody should do a show where there are a bunch of millennial saddle hunters and one older guy who just keeps saying "Yeah, but what about ..."
It would be absolutely turrible if they were younger than that, though. At least millennials know what a radio is. (I think.)
Don't steal the idea, you whelps.... Or Hell will be coming to breakfast .... :wink
It would be absolutely turrible if they were younger than that, though. At least millennials know what a radio is. (I think.)
Don't steal the idea, you whelps.... Or Hell will be coming to breakfast .... :wink
283.) bluecat - 01/27/2021
What's a pine tree Charles?
284.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63003]What's a pine tree Charles?[/QUOTE]
:-) :tu:
:-) :tu:
285.) bluecat - 01/27/2021
Holy buckets, Batman!
286.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
Don't go all sappy on me now ...
287.) bluecat - 01/27/2021
Give me the straight and narrow.
288.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE]Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
---H. L. Mencken
[/QUOTE] .....
---H. L. Mencken
[/QUOTE] .....
289.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63007]Give me the straight and narrow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
---H. L. Mencken
[/QUOTE] .....
[QUOTE]Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
---H. L. Mencken
[/QUOTE] .....
290.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
291.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
Akshully ...
It's[QUOTE] It's[/QUOTE] not Its :re:[QUOTE][/QUOTE]
It's[QUOTE] It's[/QUOTE] not Its :re:[QUOTE][/QUOTE]
292.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
We're doomed ...
293.) Swamp Fox - 01/27/2021
How's that for the straight and narrow? .... LOL
294.) luv2bowhunt - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62991]I haven't forgotten shit. :wink
That's why I study your angry posts, even though you think I don't ... LOL
Looking forward to your gear list, and your advice.[/QUOTE]
I respond with facts, you give opinions. I tell you how much stuff actually weighs, you say it's not light enough. I tell you how much easier it was to be mobile, you say it's not mobile enough. I say how high I can get with the setup, you tell me it's not high enough.
It doesn't work for you guys, I get it.
That's why I study your angry posts, even though you think I don't ... LOL
Looking forward to your gear list, and your advice.[/QUOTE]
I respond with facts, you give opinions. I tell you how much stuff actually weighs, you say it's not light enough. I tell you how much easier it was to be mobile, you say it's not mobile enough. I say how high I can get with the setup, you tell me it's not high enough.
It doesn't work for you guys, I get it.
295.) bluecat - 01/27/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63013]How's that for the straight and narrow? .... LOL[/QUOTE]
I just didn't want you to [I]leave[/I] anything out.
I just didn't want you to [I]leave[/I] anything out.
296.) bluecat - 01/27/2021
This cleared up a lot of questions I had.
297.) bluecat - 01/28/2021
Now, that someone has posted a video of someone using the saddle, I can see that in certain situations it would be helpful. If you are needing to be mobile I can see where you could reduce your arsenal of stands. I would have to hunt out of it to know whether that tether would impede my shooting. I can also see that there would be trees that you could now hunt that before you would maybe pass over as a stand location. In terms of the overall hunter footprint in a tree, I'm not seeing a difference between stand and saddle. Those are my initial thoughts as someone who doesn't own one.
One thing I thought about because I love to hunt out of cedars so much, is that it might be helpful to have a saddle in a cedar as you wouldn't have to remove so many limbs to accomodate the stand. A small platform with the hunter tethered in might be a pretty cool option. With that I would want the tether behind me with hunter facing forward and out beyond the tree. Would that work on a saddle? Can you face forward with tether coming from behind you. If so...
One thing I thought about because I love to hunt out of cedars so much, is that it might be helpful to have a saddle in a cedar as you wouldn't have to remove so many limbs to accomodate the stand. A small platform with the hunter tethered in might be a pretty cool option. With that I would want the tether behind me with hunter facing forward and out beyond the tree. Would that work on a saddle? Can you face forward with tether coming from behind you. If so...
298.) Swamp Fox - 01/28/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63019]... With that I would want the tether behind me with hunter facing forward and out beyond the tree. Would that work on a saddle? Can you face forward with tether coming from behind you. If so...[/QUOTE]
If so, that would be a traditional four-point harness, a simple lineman's belt with one or two attachment points, or a rock harness worn backwards :wink. If I were promoting the latter, I would market it as "The Wedgie" which is a lot better than "The RHWB."
Let's forget about the four-point with all its problems.
Moving straight to the next option: The simple lineman's belt is taboo these days, but did allow a lot of mobility, at least with a single attachment point. I used this method for years. It had the added advantage of being able to lean into it, which I was never able to accomplish after I moved to a four-point harness.
In fact, leaning into the saddle is one of the most attractive items to me. I've previously mentioned I prefer shooting from a seated position. Never enjoyed shooting from a standing position at height. To compensate, my preferred stands always had the biggest platforms I could find,, so that when I did have to stand things were more comfortable. This meant that whenever I'd take off with a light, mobile stand or even a mid-sized stand for whatever reason, I was always feeling that things were not optimal.
If so, that would be a traditional four-point harness, a simple lineman's belt with one or two attachment points, or a rock harness worn backwards :wink. If I were promoting the latter, I would market it as "The Wedgie" which is a lot better than "The RHWB."
Let's forget about the four-point with all its problems.
Moving straight to the next option: The simple lineman's belt is taboo these days, but did allow a lot of mobility, at least with a single attachment point. I used this method for years. It had the added advantage of being able to lean into it, which I was never able to accomplish after I moved to a four-point harness.
In fact, leaning into the saddle is one of the most attractive items to me. I've previously mentioned I prefer shooting from a seated position. Never enjoyed shooting from a standing position at height. To compensate, my preferred stands always had the biggest platforms I could find,, so that when I did have to stand things were more comfortable. This meant that whenever I'd take off with a light, mobile stand or even a mid-sized stand for whatever reason, I was always feeling that things were not optimal.
299.) bluecat - 01/28/2021
You can be completely hidden in a cedar at 6 feet off the ground, so a lineman's belt might work. It would just be a stabilizer that would allow you to sit on some of the limbs. No reason to be 30 foot in the air if you can be completely covered at 6 feet. No steps, foliage all year round. If you fall you might make it to the bottom, maybe.
300.) Swamp Fox - 01/29/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63025]... If you fall you might make it to the bottom, maybe.[/QUOTE]
LOL ... Every region is different. Also every set is different, but that's a given. I have killed deer from very low sets, but I don't remember one with a bow, and definitely not around here. We don't have cover down low most places, and you could say I've hunted more flat and rolling country than steep. There's no question you can get away with a lower stand on a slope.
Not gonna beat a dead horse about getting above a deer's line of sight on flatter ground, though. (I will say deer in some areas I've hunted seem to notice less above them than deer in other areas, however.)
(Did I just beat a dead horse?) :dh:
LOL ... Every region is different. Also every set is different, but that's a given. I have killed deer from very low sets, but I don't remember one with a bow, and definitely not around here. We don't have cover down low most places, and you could say I've hunted more flat and rolling country than steep. There's no question you can get away with a lower stand on a slope.
Not gonna beat a dead horse about getting above a deer's line of sight on flatter ground, though. (I will say deer in some areas I've hunted seem to notice less above them than deer in other areas, however.)
(Did I just beat a dead horse?) :dh:
301.) bluecat - 01/29/2021
Completely agree, every situation is different.
302.) crookedeye - 01/30/2021
HAWK HAS A PLATFORM ON SALE NOW FOR 59 BUCKS
303.) crookedeye - 01/30/2021
REMEMBER WHEN bUSH WAS PRESIDENT..dam capslock anyhow.. when the iraq war started we all kick ass ..then the demorcrats starting saying the humvees were killing are troops and blaming Bush for not enough armour in the vehicals.during a war.. that should tell you what todays demorcrats are
304.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
every little thinhg the media blames trump..this is it guys.... we stand tall are we dont stand.. there going to taxes bullzi guns 900 bucks per year every gun not just a tax, but on every gun.. everyone saying my guns got stolen..ha ha..you shouldnt hide youre guns..if it comes down to a fist fight ill be behind you guys every step of the way
305.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
bullzi had that automatic shot gun..i mean who wouldnt want one of those..
306.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
per gun
307.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
im going to watch plant box now..that white boy is tough
308.) Swamp Fox - 01/31/2021
Tough?
309.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
sweet hands he goes by...one of my buddys from yrs past ray "the rat" .. fought roberto duran.."hands of stone" on ESPN..look it up..i was always called dumbass or dipshit..
310.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
the rat..i seen that guy get in a fight at a party back in the day..it was over in like seconds..i was like Damm.. lol
311.) crookedeye - 01/31/2021
to get back to saddle hunting..probally going to buy the mission platform later this year..i just want to screw around with my new saddle..this is a game changer
312.) Swamp Fox - 01/31/2021
"Game changer" .... That's what *they* say ...
Keep us posted.
Keep us posted.
313.) Swamp Fox - 02/10/2021
The video above pricked my ears about the Mission.
What did you like about it,, particularly?
What did you like about it,, particularly?
314.) bluecat - 02/10/2021
You said pricked.
315.) Swamp Fox - 02/11/2021
yes,, but it was in the line of doody ....
316.) Swamp Fox - 02/11/2021
That's prolly gonna piss some people off ....
317.) bluecat - 02/11/2021
It's happened before...and if I had to guess...
318.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
LOL ....:dig:
319.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
im always thinking ..i would like to ask luv2 if he likes a short bridge or a longer bridge?..i havnt even tried mined out yet..i got all the bells and whistles..im really liking this thing
320.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
therses no way i can do the one stick climbimg method...1..my knee would give out..2.. why..i hang 3 or 4 climbing sticks.might take me 15 minutes ..but who cares
321.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
the only thing im worried about it now is shooting and hanging my bow.. i think i may get a Clipter..thats probally way over you regular deer hunters heads..and i use the term "deer hunters" loosily...lol
322.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
This kind of reminds me of when they came out with miniature "Datsun" now Nissan and Toyota pickup trucks. Very small. Gas efficient. Then because the beds were so small and didn't hold anything, they came out with the miniature trucks with long beds. Then because there was no room in the cab they came out with miniature trucks with longs beds and extended cabs. You see where this is going right?
If only they made a platform with an attached seat, lol
If only they made a platform with an attached seat, lol
323.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
first there was the stick bow..then the compound ,then the crossbows now its the saddlehunters...it would be a good western
324.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63159]This kind of reminds me of when they came out with miniature "Datsun" now Nissan and Toyota pickup trucks. Very small. Gas efficient. Then because the beds were so small and didn't hold anything, they came out with the miniature trucks with long beds. Then because there was no room in the cab they came out with miniature trucks with longs beds and extended cabs. You see where this is going right?
If only they made a platform with an attached seat, lol[/QUOTE]
that would be nice
If only they made a platform with an attached seat, lol[/QUOTE]
that would be nice
325.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
the saddle is like resting in a hammock
326.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
all haters of somthing they didnt try:tu:
327.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
when i use mine im going to put ocean sounds on my ipod while sitting in it
328.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63164]when i use mine im going to put ocean sounds on my ipod while sitting in it[/QUOTE]
LOL ... +7
LOL ... +7
329.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63157]therses no way i can do the one stick climbimg method...1..my knee would give out..2.. why..i hang 3 or 4 climbing sticks.might take me 15 minutes ..but who cares[/QUOTE]
I re-read John Eberhart's[I] Bowhunting Pressured Whitetails [/I]a few months ago. He's the godfather of saddle hunting the way the Wenzel brothers are the godfathers of Montana whitetails. He hunts very high, pre-sets most of his stands (steps) and--at least back in the day---uses no platform, just circles his tree with long bolts drilled into the tree.
With all that prep, he's still at his tree 1.5 - 2 hours before shooting light .
All this would kill the normal human who's slow out of the bed.
I re-read John Eberhart's[I] Bowhunting Pressured Whitetails [/I]a few months ago. He's the godfather of saddle hunting the way the Wenzel brothers are the godfathers of Montana whitetails. He hunts very high, pre-sets most of his stands (steps) and--at least back in the day---uses no platform, just circles his tree with long bolts drilled into the tree.
With all that prep, he's still at his tree 1.5 - 2 hours before shooting light .
All this would kill the normal human who's slow out of the bed.
330.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63157]therses no way i can do the one stick climbimg method...1..my knee would give out..2.. why..i hang 3 or 4 climbing sticks.might take me 15 minutes ..but who cares[/QUOTE]
One-stick climbing:
The "young and dumb and full of cum" phase doesn't last forever, but the damage is eternal ....
One-stick climbing:
The "young and dumb and full of cum" phase doesn't last forever, but the damage is eternal ....
331.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
kenny did tell me years ago he did love his saddle. anyhow i might pre set my saddle areas..or walk in a new area an hour earlier
332.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
ive been hunting the same area for over 30 yrs ..im 27 now.
333.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
He liked the Guido's Sling with some reservations. If he moved to a true saddle that was after my time.
I didn't see the advantage of the Guido's. We had time to pre-set traditional stands when we hunted together. The Guido's was relatively heavy and awkward. There might have been one hunt where he was in a Guido's and I was filming from a traditional.
What he did after that, I don't know.
I didn't see the advantage of the Guido's. We had time to pre-set traditional stands when we hunted together. The Guido's was relatively heavy and awkward. There might have been one hunt where he was in a Guido's and I was filming from a traditional.
What he did after that, I don't know.
334.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
guido's... what the hell is that.. this isnt the 80's
335.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i dont care what you and kenny did in youre high school days leave the guido suit out of this
336.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
like him or hate him kenny is one hell of a hunter
337.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63180]ive been hunting the same area for over 30 yrs ..im 27 now.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
Getting in early is a bedding and transition area thing. It makes some sense, especially if what you've been doing isn't working. You're counting on deer walking past you in the dark and coming back around later in the morning during shooting light, vs. you walking in later and spooking them on their first pass through the area.
LOL ...
Getting in early is a bedding and transition area thing. It makes some sense, especially if what you've been doing isn't working. You're counting on deer walking past you in the dark and coming back around later in the morning during shooting light, vs. you walking in later and spooking them on their first pass through the area.
338.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63182]guido's... what the hell is that.. this isnt the 80's[/QUOTE]
LOL ... I don't think it's around anymore ....
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
Don't make me look for it ...
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Correction: Nearly 14 pounds, from what I can tell. but I don't see that on their website ... LOL[/COLOR]
LOL ... I don't think it's around anymore ....
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
Don't make me look for it ...
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Correction: Nearly 14 pounds, from what I can tell. but I don't see that on their website ... LOL[/COLOR]
339.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
thats fine..funny story when i went antelope hunting with dano and kenny..i remember i was sitting in this one area..thinking hopefully someone would pick me up and go back to camp, i havnt seen shit all day remember.. and thinking maybe go back to camp drink a few beers and watch TV..it was like sun up to sun down.. we were sitting around one day ..are hunting group, just glassing and i seen kenny a mile away.. i seen every movement he got out of this truck ..put his antelope hat on and stalk this antelope that was bedded hundreds of yds away..
..
he got really close to it... persistants
..
he got really close to it... persistants
340.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
when i was hunting ..i was like jesus..ive been out here for 12 hours im starving..
341.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
a bottle of water and a ham sandwich doesnt cut it
342.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i was like i need somthing to eat.. so back at camp we had some mountain lion meat..everyone was saying its good.. i was clicking on my phone for the nearest Mcdonalds
343.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
You're gonna need a bigger sandwich ...
344.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
the 3rd day i bit into this burger...i was like Mmmmm it was like death
345.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
when i pay money and give a good tip..i want chicken Mcnuggets or a greasy cheeseburger
346.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63195]the 3rd day i bit into this burger...i was like Mmmmm it was like death[/QUOTE]
it was like kakaroe meat
it was like kakaroe meat
347.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i got done hunting for 15 hrs and i get back to camp for this so called hanburger
348.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i played the part saying Mmm this is good
349.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
That's your problem right there. Unless you tell them how bad it is, they think they are doing you a favor by feeding you kakaroe meat.
350.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
if i paid 3 thousand bucks..i want at least a beef steak..or at the least a whopper with fries
351.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
no kakaroe meat
352.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
If you eat a young one, they're not so bad.
353.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
you do no what a kakaroe is?
354.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
Maybe you could pitch that to McDonalds, McKakaroe burger.
355.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
I'm scared to ask. Is it a cross between a Macaw and a Kangaroo?
356.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
I think he means kangaroo meat ... That's more of a Jack In The Box thing ....
357.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63207]I'm scared to ask. Is it a cross between a Macaw and a Kangaroo?[/QUOTE]
Like a turducken ...
Like a turducken ...
358.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
lol thats is funny
359.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
You know it's CE's grampaw that came up with the turducken ....
360.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i remember everyone eating at the table that night...it was like Mmmm
361.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
it was like one of those nights you bit into a camey piece of meat
362.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
everyone one asking if this was a goose burger
363.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63186] ....
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
Don't make me look for it ...[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Correction: Close to 14 pounds. [/COLOR]
You can thank me later .... :dig:
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
Don't make me look for it ...[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Correction: Close to 14 pounds. [/COLOR]
You can thank me later .... :dig:
364.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
ive been hunting for 15 hours and i comne home to a goose burger
365.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
we were all like Mmmm goose burgers..you got to show respect
366.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
polite ness
367.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
i think one night we had possium..the last day we had goose nuggets
368.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63186] ....
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
[COLOR="#FF0000"]
Correction: Close to 14 pounds. [/COLOR]
Don't make me look for it ...[/QUOTE]
You can thank me later .... :dig:
But there's something kinda similar.... Like a single porch swing seat ... I think it weighs 10 pounds.....
[COLOR="#FF0000"]
Correction: Close to 14 pounds. [/COLOR]
Don't make me look for it ...[/QUOTE]
You can thank me later .... :dig:
369.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63196]when i pay money and give a good tip..i want chicken Mcnuggets or a greasy cheeseburger[/QUOTE]
You should come on out to Camp Swampy, then ...
You should come on out to Camp Swampy, then ...
370.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63217]ive been hunting for 15 hours and i comne home to a goose burger[/QUOTE]
What did the cook look like?
If you became fond of him or her, you know you can make it through the hunt ...
What did the cook look like?
If you became fond of him or her, you know you can make it through the hunt ...
371.) crookedeye - 02/12/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63222]You should come on out to Camp Swampy, then ...[/QUOTE]
i dont no.. floyd said you like youre chickkin like your steaks.. bloddy in the middle
i dont no.. floyd said you like youre chickkin like your steaks.. bloddy in the middle
372.) Swamp Fox - 02/12/2021
LOL ... +4
I've started using a thermometer since then ... And in my defense that was an open pit in the middle of the woods, pitch dark, a mile from any paved road. He woke up the nexxt morning pert as a ruttin' buck, and that was when he saw the bears ....
So no harm done ..... LOL
I haven't lost anyone yet .... :wink
I've started using a thermometer since then ... And in my defense that was an open pit in the middle of the woods, pitch dark, a mile from any paved road. He woke up the nexxt morning pert as a ruttin' buck, and that was when he saw the bears ....
So no harm done ..... LOL
I haven't lost anyone yet .... :wink
373.) bluecat - 02/12/2021
Goose nuggets? Um, never mind.
374.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
They're under a buck ...
375.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
Oh, c'mon! ... :tap: :wink
Beer nuts are usually more expensive ....
Beer nuts are usually more expensive ....
376.) bluecat - 02/13/2021
I think they were under a goose.
377.) bluecat - 02/13/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63221]
You can thank me later .... :dig:[/QUOTE]
So, help me out. What's the difference between this and a stand? Type slow, I'm from Kansas.
You can thank me later .... :dig:[/QUOTE]
So, help me out. What's the difference between this and a stand? Type slow, I'm from Kansas.
378.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
You're forgetting the exchange rate.
When you factor Canadia vs. America, they're under a buck.
When you factor Canadia vs. America, they're under a buck.
379.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63234]I think they were under a goose.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting the exchange rate.
When you factor Canadia vs. America, they're under a buck.
You're forgetting the exchange rate.
When you factor Canadia vs. America, they're under a buck.
380.) bluecat - 02/13/2021
That's some cheap a$$ shit.
381.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63235]So, help me out. What's the difference between this and a stand? Type slow, I'm from Kansas.[/QUOTE]
The molasses is supposed to be from Missouri .... :wink
I have no experience with this and only a very tiny bit of second-hand experience with the Guido's which this is based on.
I've sat in the Guido's and observed someone hunt with it one or two or three times.
There is a learning curve. I'm sure some guys probably love this concept. I found it clunky. Obviously, it can't compete with a pre-set stand.
If you wanted to be mobile, I didn't think it was particularly quiet or easy to pack, especially with other gear. It wasn't light. You still needed a ring of steps or a platform (more weight), if everyone's gonna be perfectly honest,
So to me, it didn't compete with carrying a light stand in and setting up from Zero, either.
However, if you like this I think you would love a saddle.
The molasses is supposed to be from Missouri .... :wink
I have no experience with this and only a very tiny bit of second-hand experience with the Guido's which this is based on.
I've sat in the Guido's and observed someone hunt with it one or two or three times.
There is a learning curve. I'm sure some guys probably love this concept. I found it clunky. Obviously, it can't compete with a pre-set stand.
If you wanted to be mobile, I didn't think it was particularly quiet or easy to pack, especially with other gear. It wasn't light. You still needed a ring of steps or a platform (more weight), if everyone's gonna be perfectly honest,
So to me, it didn't compete with carrying a light stand in and setting up from Zero, either.
However, if you like this I think you would love a saddle.
382.) bluecat - 02/13/2021
...and you can get up at a decent hour.
383.) Swamp Fox - 02/13/2021
That's a whole 'nother subject .... Not sure it would work for a lot of folks, the way they hunt. They'll skip a crucial step or two.
Not sure I can blame them.
The book's worthwhile, though, if you can get your hands on it.
Not sure I can blame them.
The book's worthwhile, though, if you can get your hands on it.
384.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
i have a few trees id like to hunt with the saddle, plus ill hang my trusty lonewolf..that seat started to squeak this year, like it was to tight or somthing , might have to get new bolts for it
385.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
goose this goose that..getting up early..lol
386.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
did you guys see Rombney run when the capital got breached as they say? he's supposed be a leader. i never seen a 70 year oldman run so fast
387.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
it was kind of sad to see are leaders so afraid
388.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
he could have won the 400 yard dash
389.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
they should talk about the kid on Hill 58 in vietnam..in the dark when the vietemise attacked.. he didnt run
390.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
senator blumathol a decorated vietnam hero.. a phony and no one seems to care
391.) crookedeye - 02/13/2021
he's lucky the guy with the minasotoe viking horns on didnt get ahold of him
392.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
you guys ever watch a track and field event? like the 100 yard dash when they come out of the blocks...thats what senator robney look like..i mean that guy took off...
393.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
and these are the guys to tell us what to do...just like Guomo
394.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
i was like cmon...you ever see a guy running down a hall with just his socks on??? thats what mitt rombney looked like
395.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
that shows real leader ship
396.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
like im going to vote for this guy again..
397.) Swamp Fox - 02/14/2021
LOL ...
You're voting in Utah?
I suppose Romney could try for the presidency again,,,
Think of it this way: Romney was a tree saddle against Obama's antelope hat with a cow suit ....
And still right-leaning folks couldn't figure out they needed to choose.
:re:
You're voting in Utah?
I suppose Romney could try for the presidency again,,,
Think of it this way: Romney was a tree saddle against Obama's antelope hat with a cow suit ....
And still right-leaning folks couldn't figure out they needed to choose.
:re:
398.) bluecat - 02/14/2021
All this saddle talk has got me thinking about a good old John Wayne western.
399.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
i remember years ago i had a streak of like 2000 post pretty much it had nothing to do with anything..lol JB kept trying to ruin my streak of consecative post..funny anyone still in contact with ole JB?
400.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
my favorite times on here was talking about the Bigfoot crew..moneymaker and his side kicks
401.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
moneymaker could really let out a howl
402.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
Moneymaker was in charge of everything
403.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
i remember when ranea got her new hair done..and everyone was talking about it
404.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
are Bobo the last couple yrs i watched that show he didnt seem to be in the best of shape
405.) crookedeye - 02/14/2021
i remember now why i wanted the most post counts...because i wanted to beat Bullzi post count..that was a pretty big victory for me
406.) Swamp Fox - 02/17/2021
Luv2 is still waiting to find out what you like about the Mission platform that I asked you about ...
LOL ...:tap::dig:
LOL ...:tap::dig:
407.) Swamp Fox - 02/17/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63257]i remember years ago i had a streak of like 2000 post pretty much it had nothing to do with anything..lol JB kept trying to ruin my streak of consecative post..funny anyone still in contact with ole JB?[/QUOTE]
The last I talked to JB was two or three year ago. He was rolling the rock uphill. He misses the old guard, and we miss him.
The last I talked to JB was two or three year ago. He was rolling the rock uphill. He misses the old guard, and we miss him.
408.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63297]Luv2 is still waiting to find out what you like about the Mission platform that I asked you about ...
LOL ...:tap::dig:[/QUOTE]
nothing special its just another setup..if youre so afraid of the saddle..then dont use it.. sure the mission saddle is big..thats what the girls like..i can hunt any tree i see,, because i am a sadlle hunter
LOL ...:tap::dig:[/QUOTE]
nothing special its just another setup..if youre so afraid of the saddle..then dont use it.. sure the mission saddle is big..thats what the girls like..i can hunt any tree i see,, because i am a sadlle hunter
409.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
the reson im hunting the saddle is because different set ups...im going to hunt my fix stands and the saddle...and probally hunt on the ground
410.) Swamp Fox - 02/21/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63326]nothing special its just another setup..if youre so afraid of the saddle..then dont use it.. sure the mission saddle is big..thats what the girls like..i can hunt any tree i see,, because i am a sadlle hunter[/QUOTE]\\
ROTFLOL .... :tu:
ROTFLOL .... :tu:
411.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
you ever get that ar-15 done?
412.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
i think the saddle will be the ticket..thers one big ass pine tree i want to get in...its going to be a slaunder house if i can get up in the air in that thing..
413.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
bindens going to get you guys...a 900.00 dollar tax on each pistol or long rifle like they like to call it.. each gun
414.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
slauder slaughter..it all means the same thing
415.) crookedeye - 02/21/2021
so far biden shut down the pipeline costing, 1000 of jobs, and letting in hundreds of foriegn imigrants... and whats to start talking to iran for some kind of peace thing...which just attack us troops..that oldman doesnt no what hes doing ..i like binden..but the old ****er shouldnt be are president
416.) Swamp Fox - 02/22/2021
I liked the Mission platform from that video above, but I have one or two other models ahead of it that I'm more drawn to on first impression, and just reading and video surfing.
417.) Swamp Fox - 03/10/2021
I'd like to see more stuff on saddle hunting with a rifle ...
418.) Swamp Fox - 03/10/2021
Also:
[QUOTE]I want this place looking like a cavalry post before we leave...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I want this place looking like a cavalry post before we leave...[/QUOTE]
419.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
i finaly tried out my saddle last weekend..that thing is nice..very comfortable, im not kidding the chicks love it.
420.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
i bought the cheap hawk platform..which is nice..i really like everything
421.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
you rerally look like a limb
422.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
....
423.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
that guy had talent
424.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
....
425.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
was he a freak? sure he was..and it was never proven in a court of law
426.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
....
427.) crookedeye - 04/04/2021
to bad what a sexy girl..what a voice
428.) Swamp Fox - 04/06/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63516]was he a freak? sure he was..and it was never proven in a court of law[/QUOTE]
LOL .... :wave:
LOL .... :wave:
429.) Swamp Fox - 04/06/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63510]i finaly tried out my saddle last weekend..that thing is nice..very comfortable, im not kidding the chicks love it.[/QUOTE]
:-) ....
:-) ....
430.) Swamp Fox - 04/06/2021
Since we lost Luv2, we're counting on you to be the funny man around here, CE ...
Good luck!
:grin:
Good luck!
:grin:
431.) Swamp Fox - 04/10/2021
....
432.) crookedeye - 04/24/2021
i mean im not lieing..you sit in one of these saddles like a 3...4 hr hunt is a walk in the park... plus you look like a limb. trust me its very comfortable
433.) crookedeye - 04/24/2021
im buying all kinds of new shit for my saddle..thats how much i like it..you really should try one
434.) Swamp Fox - 04/24/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63627]i mean im not lieing..you sit in one of these saddles like a 3...4 hr hunt is a walk in the park... plus you look like a limb. trust me its very comfortable[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63628]im buying all kinds of new shit for my saddle..thats how much i like it..you really should try one[/QUOTE]
You're gonna lose a lot a people at "trust me" .... Not me, because I believe every word you rite, but I'm just sayin' ...
Be prepared for a lot of blowback ....
This site is like a barfight waiting to happen ...
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63628]im buying all kinds of new shit for my saddle..thats how much i like it..you really should try one[/QUOTE]
You're gonna lose a lot a people at "trust me" .... Not me, because I believe every word you rite, but I'm just sayin' ...
Be prepared for a lot of blowback ....
This site is like a barfight waiting to happen ...
435.) crookedeye - 04/24/2021
trust me ..youll never want to hunt out of a treestand again
436.) crookedeye - 04/24/2021
there coming out with saddle pants, saddle jackets, saddle caps...everything you need to become a saddle hunter
437.) crookedeye - 04/24/2021
i have a shirt that says...im a saddle hunter.. trust me.
438.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
LOL ...
The union suit is coming back, except now for outerwear, too ...
The union suit is coming back, except now for outerwear, too ...
439.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63638]i have a shirt that says...im a saddle hunter.. trust me.[/QUOTE]
You got that in a Youth Medium so your muscles stand out, right?
You got that in a Youth Medium so your muscles stand out, right?
440.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunters For Bernie" is another popular shirt I've seen around here ....
441.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
I saw this one the other day.
"Saddle hunters do it in a harness"
"Saddle hunters do it in a harness"
442.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunters Do It With The Least Possible"
I'm not sure that that's literally true, but that seems to be what they're most proud of ...
I'm not sure that that's literally true, but that seems to be what they're most proud of ...
443.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunters Are Down With the Struggle"
444.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunters Are Social Climbers"
445.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
"Watch My Beer For A Sec, I'll Demonstrate Saddle Hunting"
446.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunters Do It On Pegs ..."
447.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
,,,,
448.) bluecat - 04/26/2021
"Saddle Hunting Can Be A Pain In The Ass"
449.) Swamp Fox - 04/26/2021
[QUOTE]Saddle Hunting: It's The Good Kind of Pain[/QUOTE]
I overheard this the other day.
I immediately asked her out ...
I overheard this the other day.
I immediately asked her out ...
450.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
I saw this t-shirt the other day and thought I should let you know.
"Dating Swampy, it's the Good Kind of Pain"
"Dating Swampy, it's the Good Kind of Pain"
451.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE]I go for younger women ... Lived with several a while ...
Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day...Still could manage a smile...
Just takes a while...Just takes a while ...[/QUOTE]
Though I ran 'em away, they'd come back one day...Still could manage a smile...
Just takes a while...Just takes a while ...[/QUOTE]
452.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
So they've gone and started their own business ...
Can't say that I blame them.
Can't say that I blame them.
453.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63656]I saw this t-shirt the other day and thought I should let you know.
"Dating Swampy, it's the Good Kind of Pain"[/QUOTE]
So they've gone and started their own business ...
Can't say that I blame them.
"Dating Swampy, it's the Good Kind of Pain"[/QUOTE]
So they've gone and started their own business ...
Can't say that I blame them.
454.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE]"You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle 'Dixie'?" [/QUOTE] ....
455.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
I'm sure they have plenty of good material to draw from...
One of their best sellers read.
"I came for the Bronco but stayed for the ride"
One of their best sellers read.
"I came for the Bronco but stayed for the ride"
456.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
LOL ^^^
I keep tellin' y'all: "Chicks Dig A Jonboat" but no one will listen, including my publisher... I am hammering away at the story, regardless ... Look for it in selected bookstores in 2023 .......
Who new after a blowout six months ago the other tire would go and I would be short a (second) spare ....
:tap: LOL
I keep tellin' y'all: "Chicks Dig A Jonboat" but no one will listen, including my publisher... I am hammering away at the story, regardless ... Look for it in selected bookstores in 2023 .......
Who new after a blowout six months ago the other tire would go and I would be short a (second) spare ....
:tap: LOL
457.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
Unfortunately "My Bronco is on Life Support" enjoyed only regional success.
458.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
If "This $30 Ignition Thingamajig Got Me Up and Running" doesn't pan out for one of them I'm Prolly Gonna Wind Up Owing Both Google and Youtube since they posted it and sold me on it ...
459.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
Don't make me play the British Army being sung out of an Irish pub, because that is where I am this afternoon ...
LOL ..... :grin:
LOL ..... :grin:
460.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
"This t-shirt doesn't have anything to say" was the cash cow for the business. It got the business off the ground.
461.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
"I should be wrenching on my Bronco, but instead I'm in an Irish pub" appeals to a wide audience of tens of people across the U.S.
462.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
LOL ... That's why this forum is stlll around ....
463.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
Let me play more Irish pub tunes .... :wink
464.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
I just ordered a new engine for the Blazer. Color me stupid but I'm doing it.
465.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63668]LOL ... That's why this forum is stlll around ....[/QUOTE]
I thought it was for a glimpse of some fatties.
I thought it was for a glimpse of some fatties.
466.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
Naw... Good for you ... Old guys rule.
467.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63670]I just ordered a new engine for the Blazer. Color me stupid but I'm doing it.[/QUOTE]
Naw... Good for you ... Old guys rule.
Naw... Good for you ... Old guys rule.
468.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
There's a whole new generation of people coming on that can't back a boat trailer, parallel park, change a tire, drive a stick etc.
469.) bluecat - 04/28/2021
This t-shirt is only available in extra large for very good reason.
Carabiners (locking and non-locking), check
Mountaineering Rope, check
Foot platform, check
Harness, check
Slings, check
Gear Rope, check
bow mounting hook, check
pulleys, check
prussic sling, check
knee savers, check
back band, check
lineman's rope, check
ascenders, check
accessory bag, check
Not having to carry a stand to your tree, priceless.
Carabiners (locking and non-locking), check
Mountaineering Rope, check
Foot platform, check
Harness, check
Slings, check
Gear Rope, check
bow mounting hook, check
pulleys, check
prussic sling, check
knee savers, check
back band, check
lineman's rope, check
ascenders, check
accessory bag, check
Not having to carry a stand to your tree, priceless.
470.) Swamp Fox - 04/28/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;63674]There's a whole new generation of people coming on that can't back a boat trailer, parallel park, change a tire, drive a stick etc.[/QUOTE]
Hey! I can't drive a stick! At least not without ruining your European automobile ... You should check your privilege!
Hey! I can't drive a stick! At least not without ruining your European automobile ... You should check your privilege!
471.) Swamp Fox - 04/29/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63676]Hey! I can't drive a stick! At least not without ruining your European automobile ... You should check your privilege![/QUOTE]
I drove a used '86 S-10 Blazer well into the 2000's ..
I blew the engine April 11 early in the morning on the way to a turkey hunt, not far from where Johnston surrendered on the very same day (years ago) ..,
And not long after my girl left me ... But I don't like to talk about that, either ....
Bum thermostat ... I tried to repair it myself but the whole shebang got confiscated by knuckleheads who didn't coordinate with the other knuckleheads who owned the garage where I had it towed.
Otherwise,,, I'd still be driving it.
That truck was not 4WD... But it looked looked like it was ... Let me tell you the stories about the times people thought it was a Mud Magician ....
Deep River ... Yee-ha!
I drove a used '86 S-10 Blazer well into the 2000's ..
I blew the engine April 11 early in the morning on the way to a turkey hunt, not far from where Johnston surrendered on the very same day (years ago) ..,
And not long after my girl left me ... But I don't like to talk about that, either ....
Bum thermostat ... I tried to repair it myself but the whole shebang got confiscated by knuckleheads who didn't coordinate with the other knuckleheads who owned the garage where I had it towed.
Otherwise,,, I'd still be driving it.
That truck was not 4WD... But it looked looked like it was ... Let me tell you the stories about the times people thought it was a Mud Magician ....
Deep River ... Yee-ha!
472.) DParker - 04/29/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;63680]I blew the engine[/QUOTE]
That must have really burned your lips.
That must have really burned your lips.
473.) Swamp Fox - 04/29/2021
Nah ... I'd barely got her warmed up ...
474.) crookedeye - 05/30/2021
i bought a ropeman1.. a daisy chain to hang my bow and other important gear, hero clip and a few other clips. this saddle hunting is the way to go
475.) Swamp Fox - 06/02/2021
Are Hero clips the new must-have in saddle hunting?
It's hard for me to keep up ...
It's hard for me to keep up ...
476.) Swamp Fox - 06/03/2021
I'm old enough to remember when cup-holders for your treestand were the thing ...
477.) bluecat - 06/03/2021
What about deer view mirrors?
478.) Swamp Fox - 06/03/2021
LOL ... There was one tree I liked to hunt where I could have used one of those things...
A BIG oak, close to or three feet across at chest height ---"I've seen bigger"--- and it took me a while to figure out the deer came in from behind me in the morning. The best shooting opportunities were in front though, LOL ...
[Insert image of Mae West here .... My 'puter is being uncooperative. Chrome issue? But Firefox isn't helping either ... I blame "the Biden administration" ... LOL]
A BIG oak, close to or three feet across at chest height ---"I've seen bigger"--- and it took me a while to figure out the deer came in from behind me in the morning. The best shooting opportunities were in front though, LOL ...
[Insert image of Mae West here .... My 'puter is being uncooperative. Chrome issue? But Firefox isn't helping either ... I blame "the Biden administration" ... LOL]
479.) bluecat - 06/03/2021
Russian hacking I'm guessing. Don't worry, Biden's going to give them a stern talkin' to. He's got this.
480.) Swamp Fox - 06/03/2021
That tree is about 10 yards from a slightly bigger version under which I ran into the biggest canebrake rattler ever ... I've written about it on here before.
Not gonna try to recall what I thought his length was --I'll let somebody dig around in the archives--- but when you go to Wiki or wherever to find the upper limit, this monster was at it or longer.
I had plenty of time to look him over from prolly too close. He was sunning after a meal (I'm guessing) in late October, early November and wasn't going anywhere. Either that, or he was stoned. Come to think of it, I know pothead millenials with more energy than this slug of a viper.
This is in contrast to the fattest cottonmouth I've ever seen (20 miles away) who would have chased me down and beaten me with a stick if I hadn't tipped my hat to her and slowly backed away ...
Not gonna try to recall what I thought his length was --I'll let somebody dig around in the archives--- but when you go to Wiki or wherever to find the upper limit, this monster was at it or longer.
I had plenty of time to look him over from prolly too close. He was sunning after a meal (I'm guessing) in late October, early November and wasn't going anywhere. Either that, or he was stoned. Come to think of it, I know pothead millenials with more energy than this slug of a viper.
This is in contrast to the fattest cottonmouth I've ever seen (20 miles away) who would have chased me down and beaten me with a stick if I hadn't tipped my hat to her and slowly backed away ...
481.) crookedeye - 06/20/2021
when its all said and done, i probally spend over a grand or more ..thinking about getting some little sticks with an aider..i dont no why i didnt do this stuff when i was younger
482.) crookedeye - 06/20/2021
speaking of old weres billy at ..i havnt heard from him for a while or jon..billy does no im the best crappie fisherman west of the mississippi
483.) Swamp Fox - 06/22/2021
You've probababbly intimmerdated him with yer rough talk ...
Tell us moe about that nice white bass you snagged ... Was it with a cane pole?
Tell us moe about that nice white bass you snagged ... Was it with a cane pole?
484.) Swamp Fox - 06/24/2021
Okay ... I understand ... Loose lips sink ships ...
485.) crookedeye - 06/24/2021
i cant believe in 3 years this site hasnt pick up 1 new member i mean 1..
486.) crookedeye - 06/24/2021
i mean you guys are knowledgable, artistic.. and ...............
487.) bluecat - 06/24/2021
...good lookin'.
488.) Swamp Fox - 06/25/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64057]i cant believe in 3 years this site hasnt pick up 1 new member i mean 1..[/QUOTE]
This is fake news ... Jamika Weatherfor joined May of '19 ... That was a big month for us ...
This is fake news ... Jamika Weatherfor joined May of '19 ... That was a big month for us ...
489.) Swamp Fox - 06/25/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64057]i cant believe in 3 years this site hasnt pick up 1 new member i mean 1..[/QUOTE]
Everybody's gotten used to the Whisker Biscuit by now ...
It's no longer like talking about aliens .... or BigFoot ...
We all know it exists ... And works upside down, and underwater ...
:wave:
Everybody's gotten used to the Whisker Biscuit by now ...
It's no longer like talking about aliens .... or BigFoot ...
We all know it exists ... And works upside down, and underwater ...
:wave:
490.) Swamp Fox - 06/25/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64038]You've probababbly intimmerdated him with yer rough talk ...
Tell us moe about that nice white bass you snagged ... Was it with a cane pole?[/QUOTE]
CE did catch a very nice white bass recently ... I have the proof, in case it's the last or only one of his career ... LOL ...
I reckon he's just too shy to talk about it ... :poke:
Tell us moe about that nice white bass you snagged ... Was it with a cane pole?[/QUOTE]
CE did catch a very nice white bass recently ... I have the proof, in case it's the last or only one of his career ... LOL ...
I reckon he's just too shy to talk about it ... :poke:
491.) crookedeye - 06/26/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64059]...good lookin'.[/QUOTE]
i dont no.. you ever see swampy in those pig hunt pics? kinda like half snail and wc fields
i dont no.. you ever see swampy in those pig hunt pics? kinda like half snail and wc fields
492.) crookedeye - 06/27/2021
i guess they have enginers and architect looking at that building that collasped in florida...im a roofer and can tell you why it collasped
493.) crookedeye - 06/27/2021
i would like to ask the enginers and architecs...so what do you think on why the building collasped
494.) crookedeye - 06/27/2021
there going to give some screwed up answer on why..and trust me they dont no why..
495.) crookedeye - 06/27/2021
to get back to saddle hunting.. i might buy the seeker platform from cruz but maybe not..im going to give it a go early season. i sat in the xc saddle this spring and really liked it..maybe get some small sticks with an aider.
496.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64080]i dont no.. you ever see swampy in those pig hunt pics? kinda like half snail and wc fields[/QUOTE]
You wish you were WC Fields ...
And so do I .... :wink
(I'd lose my hat with Mae West, too ...)
You wish you were WC Fields ...
And so do I .... :wink
(I'd lose my hat with Mae West, too ...)
497.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2021
LOL ...
This is why CrOokEDeyE is a legend....
[Hardly] No on Else would have come up with a WC Fields reference out of the blue ...
:grin::hb::clap:
This is why CrOokEDeyE is a legend....
[Hardly] No on Else would have come up with a WC Fields reference out of the blue ...
:grin::hb::clap:
498.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2021
Not sure where the snail comes in, though, to be honest ...
:dig::pop:
:dig::pop:
499.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2021
Plus he's really good on the new product skinny ....
Based on his recommendation, if I can ever find some copper-over-glass out of Indiana, I will be covered up with dead turkeys ....
Based on his recommendation, if I can ever find some copper-over-glass out of Indiana, I will be covered up with dead turkeys ....
500.) crookedeye - 07/02/2021
lol....
501.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
you guys should come up here or down here for a hunt, saying a hunt to end alll hunts.. bluecats only hours away swampy might have a little jog. im thinking dparker could bring his ww1 sniper rifle,,and we could each take a crack at it
502.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
that ww1 rifle didnt even have a scope on it,,did it? man them were the glory days
503.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
all bayonets back then..thats the real way
504.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
i read on some site that Custer last stand wasnt really a last stand...Custer was actually with a patrol with 3 men,,,when he was attacked..true story
505.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
Custer knife has never been found at the little bighorn river
506.) crookedeye - 07/04/2021
that was were john wayne lost his pistiol along the milk river
507.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64143]i read on some site that Custer last stand wasnt really a last stand...Custer was actually with a patrol with 3 men,,,when he was attacked..true story[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64144]Custer knife has never been found at the little bighorn river[/QUOTE]
This is really weird,, because last night I meant to post something about your lifelong search for Custer's hat, and because I am always trying to Irish up this snoozefest to give it a kick in the pants, I was gonna play Garryowen in your Polish honor ...
Why I did not accomplish my goal is a mystery, unless I passed out ... But my mother will tell ye I was sober as a church mouse and under her watchful eye all night ...
An alternative explanation is that I have not found the perfect mix of music, rebel lyrics and video to suit my tastes, and I'd just had enough nectar of the gods before I needed to go to bed ...
So in the meantime:
[url]https://1cda.org/history/garryowen/[/url]
:wave:
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64144]Custer knife has never been found at the little bighorn river[/QUOTE]
This is really weird,, because last night I meant to post something about your lifelong search for Custer's hat, and because I am always trying to Irish up this snoozefest to give it a kick in the pants, I was gonna play Garryowen in your Polish honor ...
Why I did not accomplish my goal is a mystery, unless I passed out ... But my mother will tell ye I was sober as a church mouse and under her watchful eye all night ...
An alternative explanation is that I have not found the perfect mix of music, rebel lyrics and video to suit my tastes, and I'd just had enough nectar of the gods before I needed to go to bed ...
So in the meantime:
[url]https://1cda.org/history/garryowen/[/url]
:wave:
508.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2021
The mental disorder that suggests this tune is politically incorrect never crossed me mind ...
509.) crookedeye - 07/05/2021
......
510.) crookedeye - 07/05/2021
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511.) crookedeye - 07/05/2021
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512.) crookedeye - 07/05/2021
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513.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2021
LOL Benny Hill ^^^^Gonna have to bookmark that wife-swap one, lol
[QUOTE]"I had a strange experience on my way to work ..."
"Really?"
"You know that hotel at Third and Market? Well, it caught fire and as I was passing by I heard someone yelling 'Save me! Save me!' There was a woman on the fourth floor standing on the sill. I looked up and saw her predicament..."
"Through all the smoke?"
"You'd be surprised how far a man will go to spot a predicament ... I saw one once all the way across the river ...Almost drowned trying to swim to it .... Found out it was my mother-in-law, the one I don't like ..."
---old burlesque routine [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"I had a strange experience on my way to work ..."
"Really?"
"You know that hotel at Third and Market? Well, it caught fire and as I was passing by I heard someone yelling 'Save me! Save me!' There was a woman on the fourth floor standing on the sill. I looked up and saw her predicament..."
"Through all the smoke?"
"You'd be surprised how far a man will go to spot a predicament ... I saw one once all the way across the river ...Almost drowned trying to swim to it .... Found out it was my mother-in-law, the one I don't like ..."
---old burlesque routine [/QUOTE]
514.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64140]you guys should come up here or down here for a hunt, saying a hunt to end alll hunts.. bluecats only hours away swampy might have a little jog. im thinking dparker could bring his ww1 sniper rifle,,and we could each take a crack at it[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed my several hunts in Nebraska. Saw some nice bucks, an elk, a lot of antelope, some big trains and tiny towns, a little bit of frontier and Injun-fightin' stuff and a small piece of the Badlands, but I never got into any predicaments ...
So overall, I'd rate the experience an 8, with room for improvement ... :wink LOL
I enjoyed my several hunts in Nebraska. Saw some nice bucks, an elk, a lot of antelope, some big trains and tiny towns, a little bit of frontier and Injun-fightin' stuff and a small piece of the Badlands, but I never got into any predicaments ...
So overall, I'd rate the experience an 8, with room for improvement ... :wink LOL
515.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
The thing about hunting in Nebraska is that the trees are so tiny (low) that it seems like no matter what kind of stand you use ---traditional or saddle--- getting up in one seems like just a ceremonial formality.
I hunted out of one tree where the best place for the platform made it at about 45 degrees under my feet, though ... That was a lot of fun ... Had deer under me that evening, but no shooters ... Would have been difficult to position for a shot anyway, but I was proud of the last-minute set-up, lol ... That would have been a saddle tree ....
I hunted out of one tree where the best place for the platform made it at about 45 degrees under my feet, though ... That was a lot of fun ... Had deer under me that evening, but no shooters ... Would have been difficult to position for a shot anyway, but I was proud of the last-minute set-up, lol ... That would have been a saddle tree ....
516.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
The thing about hunting in Nebraska is that the trees are so tiny (low) that it seems like no matter what kind of stand you use ---traditional or saddle--- getting up in one seems like just a ceremonial formality.
I hunted out of one tree where the best place for the platform made it at about 45 degrees under my feet, though ... That was a lot of fun ... Had deer under me that evening, but no shooters ... Would have been difficult to position for a shot, but I was proud of the last-minute set-up, lol ... That would have been a saddle tree ....
I hunted out of one tree where the best place for the platform made it at about 45 degrees under my feet, though ... That was a lot of fun ... Had deer under me that evening, but no shooters ... Would have been difficult to position for a shot, but I was proud of the last-minute set-up, lol ... That would have been a saddle tree ....
517.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
Forgot to mention there was no sitting on that stand ... The only thing you could do was stand, leaning against the tree , one leg lower than the other, cocked up a measly 18 feet above the ground like you were surfing a radical instrument of torture from geometry class ...
518.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
It was like I'd fallen down a stump hole with my left leg but my right leg remained where I had been walking ...
If you've never had one leg shoot down a stump hole to your naughty bits while you're just moseying along, you don't know what I'm talking about ...
If you've never had one leg shoot down a stump hole to your naughty bits while you're just moseying along, you don't know what I'm talking about ...
519.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
The first thing you think is [SIZE=2][COLOR="#FF0000"][B]"Viper's Nest!" [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] and you pop right out .... LOL ....
520.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
Sometimes, if you're especially wired, you think [SIZE=3][B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Vipers' Nest! [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
521.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
You ALWAYS shout the [B][B][SIZE=2]F[/SIZE][/B][/B] word, though ....
LOL ...
LOL ...
522.) Swamp Fox - 07/09/2021
....
:wave:
:wave:
523.) bluecat - 07/09/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64171]It was like I'd fallen down a stump hole with my left leg but my right leg remained where I had been walking ...
If you've never had one leg shoot down a stump hole to your naughty bits while you're just moseying along, you don't know what I'm talking about ...[/QUOTE]
You said naughty bits.
If you've never had one leg shoot down a stump hole to your naughty bits while you're just moseying along, you don't know what I'm talking about ...[/QUOTE]
You said naughty bits.
524.) Swamp Fox - 07/10/2021
I've said a lot more than that .... LOL ...
I suppose if you're looking for a place to hide the moonshine, finding a new stump hole is a good thing ....
As a matter of fact, once you pop out, sticking your head down there to poke around is highly recommended ...
:bad: ... LOL
I suppose if you're looking for a place to hide the moonshine, finding a new stump hole is a good thing ....
As a matter of fact, once you pop out, sticking your head down there to poke around is highly recommended ...
:bad: ... LOL
525.) Swamp Fox - 09/24/2021
Dan Infalt vs. Saddle Hunting ... LOL
(We did a whole thread here mainly about Number Two way back last year .... Just sayin' ... :wink LOL)
(We did a whole thread here mainly about Number Two way back last year .... Just sayin' ... :wink LOL)
526.) bluecat - 09/24/2021
I'm sure CE will post about how it is going for him and his tree saddle.
527.) Swamp Fox - 09/25/2021
I'm loOkIng forward to it!
:grin:
:grin:
528.) crookedeye - 09/26/2021
give it time
529.) bluecat - 09/27/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63627]i mean im not lieing..you sit in one of these saddles like a 3...4 hr hunt is a walk in the park... plus you look like a limb. trust me its very comfortable[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63628]im buying all kinds of new shit for my saddle..thats how much i like it..you really should try one[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63636]trust me ..youll never want to hunt out of a treestand again[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64777]give it time[/QUOTE]
New car smell wearing off?
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63628]im buying all kinds of new shit for my saddle..thats how much i like it..you really should try one[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;63636]trust me ..youll never want to hunt out of a treestand again[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=crookedeye;64777]give it time[/QUOTE]
New car smell wearing off?
530.) Swamp Fox - 09/28/2021
LOL ...
:pop:
This is the best thing to happen to hunting forums since the Whisker Biscuit ...
:pop:
This is the best thing to happen to hunting forums since the Whisker Biscuit ...
531.) bluecat - 11/02/2021
:shh:
I'll post softly as I don't want to wake everyone up but
how's that saddle working out? Have you sold all your treestands?
I'll post softly as I don't want to wake everyone up but
how's that saddle working out? Have you sold all your treestands?
532.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2021
I'm almost inclined to join a saddle hunting forum...
Somebody stop me.
Somebody stop me.
533.) bluecat - 12/07/2021
Would that mean you'd spend less time on this forum? I don't know if we could take the hit.
Your paper route is really cramping my style.
Your paper route is really cramping my style.
534.) Swamp Fox - 12/08/2021
Nah, I'll still be around ... They're not making any more hours in the day, but I'll try to shave the time from personal hygiene ...
535.) crookedeye - 12/24/2021
who you talkin to?
536.) Swamp Fox - 12/24/2021
Wait ... I thought I heard something ...
537.) Swamp Fox - 12/25/2021
Oh, c'mon ... that's at least a + 13 ... Although I'm willing to bicker and argue about who killed who ...
538.) Swamp Fox - 12/25/2021
[QUOTE=crookedeye;65299]who you talkin to?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;65301]Wait ... I thought I heard something ...
[/QUOTE]........
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;65301]Wait ... I thought I heard something ...
539.) bluecat - 12/25/2021
Well it WAS good. Maybe not a +13 good. If I gave you a +13 everytime you thought you were clever I'd have to go back and reevaluate some of DPs posts. I mean that chicken pic was epic.
Go Packers
Go Packers
540.) Swamp Fox - 12/26/2021
LOL ...Well, okay, but maybe DP needs a bump on some of his posts, too, you Scrooge .... :wink
541.) bluecat - 12/26/2021
Yep, I've been pretty hard on the little feller. I'll make that one of my resolutions.
542.) Swamp Fox - 12/26/2021
Not saying grade inflation isn't a thing, tho ... LOL
543.) DParker - 12/27/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;65338]Not saying grade inflation isn't a thing, tho ... LOL[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say no to some social promotion.
I wouldn't say no to some social promotion.
544.) bluecat - 12/27/2021
[QUOTE=DParker;65339]I wouldn't say no to some social promotion.[/QUOTE]
+5 :grin:
+5 :grin: