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1.) luv2bowhunt - 09/08/2020
I wondered if he'd show up this year, didn't think he would, but he made it again. There was more hunting pressure last year than most.
This is the 3rd year I've gotten pics of this buck in the same bedding area. Just curious, how old do you think he is? He hasn't changed all that much in 3 years, just gotten a little heavier.
This is the 3rd year I've gotten pics of this buck in the same bedding area. Just curious, how old do you think he is? He hasn't changed all that much in 3 years, just gotten a little heavier.
2.) bluecat - 09/09/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61863] He hasn't changed all that much in 3 years, just gotten a little heavier.
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Are you talking about BULLZ-i?
I think that deer would have to be 6-7 years old. The 2018 picture looks like at least a three year old.
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Are you talking about BULLZ-i?
I think that deer would have to be 6-7 years old. The 2018 picture looks like at least a three year old.
3.) luv2bowhunt - 09/09/2020
Yeah, I'm thinking he's older than 2 1/2 in 2018. He's a legend with me. 2 or 3 times he's gone by one of stands in daylight while I was hunting in a different one. Once he showed up at 12:30 PM when I left that stand at 12:00. Can't be a coincidence.
I am not hunting him, that would be a waste of my time. But if he happened to screw up and stroll by.......:wink
BULLZ-i is also a legend.
I am not hunting him, that would be a waste of my time. But if he happened to screw up and stroll by.......:wink
BULLZ-i is also a legend.
4.) Swamp Fox - 09/11/2020
I'm going with 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 absent a full body shot.
:wave::beer::wave:
:wave::beer::wave:
5.) luv2bowhunt - 09/11/2020
Kip getting PO'd, that's scarier than G-Man taking on BULLZ-ear.
I have a surprise waiting for this buck this year. I'm going mobile with a tree saddle, so he won't know where my stands are to avoid.....so there.
I have a surprise waiting for this buck this year. I'm going mobile with a tree saddle, so he won't know where my stands are to avoid.....so there.
6.) bluecat - 09/11/2020
There is no way those things wouldn't make your butt and legs go to sleep.
7.) Swamp Fox - 09/12/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61875]Kip getting PO'd, that's scarier than G-Man taking on BULLZ-ear.
I have a surprise waiting for this buck this year. I'm going mobile with a tree saddle, so he won't know where my stands are to avoid.....so there.[/QUOTE]
Kip doesn't even get PO'd .... He gets [B]T[/B]O'd (lol) which is much less menacing, but not so cussy ... So he has that going for him, which is nice ... :wink
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Fill us in on the whole saddle thing. Chronicle as you go, perhaps. :-)
I'm still skeptical. If you "pre-prep" your sites in the off- season, I don't see the benefit to anyone who owns multiple stands and puts them out ahead of time, unless you're putting them out where they are sure to get stolen, which kinda runs contrary to the whole "I found a great spot" narrative in the first place.
If you're climbing new trees and finding new ambushes during the season, that's a different story, but how realistic is that? Also, I defy anyone to exert any energy making a new set around here mid-season without stinking the place up. Maybe if you hunt in a huge walk-in refrigerator...
Not trying to be a wet blanket, but am trying to find a justification ...
I have a surprise waiting for this buck this year. I'm going mobile with a tree saddle, so he won't know where my stands are to avoid.....so there.[/QUOTE]
Kip doesn't even get PO'd .... He gets [B]T[/B]O'd (lol) which is much less menacing, but not so cussy ... So he has that going for him, which is nice ... :wink
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Fill us in on the whole saddle thing. Chronicle as you go, perhaps. :-)
I'm still skeptical. If you "pre-prep" your sites in the off- season, I don't see the benefit to anyone who owns multiple stands and puts them out ahead of time, unless you're putting them out where they are sure to get stolen, which kinda runs contrary to the whole "I found a great spot" narrative in the first place.
If you're climbing new trees and finding new ambushes during the season, that's a different story, but how realistic is that? Also, I defy anyone to exert any energy making a new set around here mid-season without stinking the place up. Maybe if you hunt in a huge walk-in refrigerator...
Not trying to be a wet blanket, but am trying to find a justification ...
8.) luv2bowhunt - 09/14/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;61877]There is no way those things wouldn't make your butt and legs go to sleep.[/QUOTE]
I've been practicing, sat in it for an hour or so, haven't noticed that yet. Stay tuned, will be using it 10/3 Lord willing.
I've been practicing, sat in it for an hour or so, haven't noticed that yet. Stay tuned, will be using it 10/3 Lord willing.
9.) luv2bowhunt - 09/14/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61878]If you're climbing new trees and finding new ambushes during the season, that's a different story, but how realistic is that? Also, I defy anyone to exert any energy making a new set around here mid-season without stinking the place up. Not trying to be a wet blanket, but am trying to find a justification ...[/QUOTE]
You are, and always have been, a wet blanket. But seriously folks..........:wave:
After the last couple of seasons, setting stands, moving them, collecting them at the end, has worn me out. I had to try something less physically demanding. I believe the saddle helps me with that. Only 10 lbs to carry, and I can bounce wherever I need to.
I can't believe you think it is unrealistic to find a new spot during the season, set up there, and kill a buck. I've done it many times. With the saddle you can move around until you find some hot sign and setup. I can't tell you how many times I've been going into my pre-hung stand and crossed really fresh buck sign on the way, thinking I should have a stand right here, but I keep moving on to my stand because that's where I'm setup.
Sometimes it's tough since you may not have as many shooting lanes since you didn't prep the spot ahead of time. But when I killed the big one, I only had two holes for shooting lanes and he stepped into one of them. I'd rather be lucky than good I guess.
I will keep you posted with an honest review of what I like and dislike about it. I can tell you right now, being on the skinny side of things is going to help. I wouldn't try it if I was a 'big boned' person. I don't think we're allowed to say fat any more.
....or retarded. Can't say that either. I wonder if it's still in the dictionary?
You are, and always have been, a wet blanket. But seriously folks..........:wave:
After the last couple of seasons, setting stands, moving them, collecting them at the end, has worn me out. I had to try something less physically demanding. I believe the saddle helps me with that. Only 10 lbs to carry, and I can bounce wherever I need to.
I can't believe you think it is unrealistic to find a new spot during the season, set up there, and kill a buck. I've done it many times. With the saddle you can move around until you find some hot sign and setup. I can't tell you how many times I've been going into my pre-hung stand and crossed really fresh buck sign on the way, thinking I should have a stand right here, but I keep moving on to my stand because that's where I'm setup.
Sometimes it's tough since you may not have as many shooting lanes since you didn't prep the spot ahead of time. But when I killed the big one, I only had two holes for shooting lanes and he stepped into one of them. I'd rather be lucky than good I guess.
I will keep you posted with an honest review of what I like and dislike about it. I can tell you right now, being on the skinny side of things is going to help. I wouldn't try it if I was a 'big boned' person. I don't think we're allowed to say fat any more.
....or retarded. Can't say that either. I wonder if it's still in the dictionary?
10.) bluecat - 09/14/2020
I will corroborate what Luv3 said about moving mid-season. It works. At the very least it keeps optimism up as you are sitting in a brand new area and seeing new things. I think the tree saddle is a great idea, I just don't know about the comfort level.
Luv3, be sure and include some pics and maybe some text about how to set it up.
Luv3, be sure and include some pics and maybe some text about how to set it up.
11.) luv2bowhunt - 09/14/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;61887]I will corroborate what Luv3 said about moving mid-season. It works. At the very least it keeps optimism up as you are sitting in a brand new area and seeing new things. I think the tree saddle is a great idea, I just don't know about the comfort level.
Luv3, be sure and include some pics and maybe some text about how to set it up.[/QUOTE]
Will do, but no pics of me. Jon cured me of that. I did alot of research, watched every video about saddle hunting I could find on YouTube, making sure I picked what would be best for me. I settled on the Aerohunter Kestrel Flex.
So far been comfortable, but haven't put 4-5 hours straight in it. But then to tell you the truth, 4-5 hours in a hang on treestand ain't that comfortable either. My back always starts hurting at some point.
I will give you honest reviews, not crap like these political ads and Swampy that tell half truths.:grin:
Luv3, be sure and include some pics and maybe some text about how to set it up.[/QUOTE]
Will do, but no pics of me. Jon cured me of that. I did alot of research, watched every video about saddle hunting I could find on YouTube, making sure I picked what would be best for me. I settled on the Aerohunter Kestrel Flex.
So far been comfortable, but haven't put 4-5 hours straight in it. But then to tell you the truth, 4-5 hours in a hang on treestand ain't that comfortable either. My back always starts hurting at some point.
I will give you honest reviews, not crap like these political ads and Swampy that tell half truths.:grin:
12.) Swamp Fox - 09/15/2020
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I can't believe you think it is unrealistic to find a new spot during the season, set up there, and kill a buck. I've done it many times. With the saddle you can move around until you find some hot sign and setup. I can't tell you how many times I've been going into my pre-hung stand and crossed really fresh buck sign on the way, thinking I should have a stand right here, but I keep moving on to my stand because that's where I'm setup.
Sometimes it's tough since you may not have as many shooting lanes since you didn't prep the spot ahead of time. But when I killed the big one, I only had two holes for shooting lanes and he stepped into one of them. I'd rather be lucky than good I guess.
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That's retarded ... What you prolly *meant* to say is you'd rather be lucky AND good ... But don't let me put words in your mouth... LOL ... :wave:
I'll get back to you about what I meant by [I]unrealistic[/I] (which may have been the wrong word, or one I need to put in more context) when I have more time.
In the meantime:
From experience, when I think about screwing steps into trees or setting climbing sticks or hauling in an extra climber on the fly, that's a lot of work and impact when you don't want a lot of work and impact. Remember that it doesn't take much to break a sweat until well after the rut here, even working in the dark.
I would like to be hunting thicker areas or on their edges in the first place, and the chances of me wandering through those areas in the daylight to discover and then set up on the hot spot whether by day or by night to kill a good buck are slim.
I'm inclined to save the information for next year, or to think in terms of setting up to hunt in 3 to 4 or more days, when conditions are in my favor and the disruption of setting up has faded.
I can't believe you think it is unrealistic to find a new spot during the season, set up there, and kill a buck. I've done it many times. With the saddle you can move around until you find some hot sign and setup. I can't tell you how many times I've been going into my pre-hung stand and crossed really fresh buck sign on the way, thinking I should have a stand right here, but I keep moving on to my stand because that's where I'm setup.
Sometimes it's tough since you may not have as many shooting lanes since you didn't prep the spot ahead of time. But when I killed the big one, I only had two holes for shooting lanes and he stepped into one of them. I'd rather be lucky than good I guess.
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That's retarded ... What you prolly *meant* to say is you'd rather be lucky AND good ... But don't let me put words in your mouth... LOL ... :wave:
I'll get back to you about what I meant by [I]unrealistic[/I] (which may have been the wrong word, or one I need to put in more context) when I have more time.
In the meantime:
From experience, when I think about screwing steps into trees or setting climbing sticks or hauling in an extra climber on the fly, that's a lot of work and impact when you don't want a lot of work and impact. Remember that it doesn't take much to break a sweat until well after the rut here, even working in the dark.
I would like to be hunting thicker areas or on their edges in the first place, and the chances of me wandering through those areas in the daylight to discover and then set up on the hot spot whether by day or by night to kill a good buck are slim.
I'm inclined to save the information for next year, or to think in terms of setting up to hunt in 3 to 4 or more days, when conditions are in my favor and the disruption of setting up has faded.
13.) Swamp Fox - 09/15/2020
Oh and duh .... Your point about shooting lanes is key. Unless you set up in daylight initially, you are almost guaranteed to have no clear shots with a bow here. What I mean is that successfully setting up "blind" ain't gonna work. If you set up in daylight you are still going to have to climb down and trim 90% of the time.
We ain't hunting old growth forest with no understory here ...
We ain't hunting old growth forest with no understory here ...
14.) Swamp Fox - 09/15/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61888]Will do, but no pics of me. Jon cured me of that. [/QUOTE]
I completely understand, though I am disappointed at the lost opportunities for meself ...
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I completely understand, though I am disappointed at the lost opportunities for meself ...
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15.) luv2bowhunt - 09/15/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61890]Oh and duh .... Your point about shooting lanes is key. Unless you set up in daylight initially, you are almost guaranteed to have no clear shots with a bow here. What I mean is that successfully setting up "blind" ain't gonna work. If you set up in daylight you are still going to have to climb down and trim 90% of the time.
We ain't hunting old growth forest with no understory here ...[/QUOTE]
Understood. Just to clarify I'm hunting overgrown clearcuts or on the edge of them, so I'm not dealing with open hardwoods either. Normally I'm set up to shoot 1 trail, that's the best you can hope for.
I'm still not believing there's no use for a tree saddle down there, when YouTube is filled with southern goobers using tree saddles.
Send pics of your normal hunting locations, not staged or hand picked spots to try and validate your point, like a Biden commercial. Maybe then I can think of a way to break you out of your perennial negativity.:tu:
We ain't hunting old growth forest with no understory here ...[/QUOTE]
Understood. Just to clarify I'm hunting overgrown clearcuts or on the edge of them, so I'm not dealing with open hardwoods either. Normally I'm set up to shoot 1 trail, that's the best you can hope for.
I'm still not believing there's no use for a tree saddle down there, when YouTube is filled with southern goobers using tree saddles.
Send pics of your normal hunting locations, not staged or hand picked spots to try and validate your point, like a Biden commercial. Maybe then I can think of a way to break you out of your perennial negativity.:tu:
16.) Swamp Fox - 09/16/2020
Youtube is filled with Southern goobers [B]generally[/B]. (Yes, it's capitalized.) Think of it as revenge.
I'm not claiming there's no use for [[B]on the fly[/B]] saddle hunting here. It depends where you hunt. In the mountains, I can see it. Less understory; surrounding trees and the obstructions they present not so much of an issue; the weight and portability advantages ... yada yada yada.
You get in the rolling and the flat ground here, it's a different story. I'm convinced we need to get much higher than what you're used to [[I][B]Free Bird![/B][/I]]---and/thus the natural shot opportunities are far fewer. More brush, vines, saplings, gators, snakes and possums and [[B]General Lee[/B]] just a lot of SITW .
(Do you see what I did there? --- :shocked:)
If you'd ever taken me up on any one of my invitations to hunt at any Camp Swampy you'd know what I'm talking about, but I understand your fear of having your throat cut and your wallet stolen if you cross the Mason-Dixon Line ...
It's not an unreasonable fear ... for you ...
:nk::beer::wave:
I'm not claiming there's no use for [[B]on the fly[/B]] saddle hunting here. It depends where you hunt. In the mountains, I can see it. Less understory; surrounding trees and the obstructions they present not so much of an issue; the weight and portability advantages ... yada yada yada.
You get in the rolling and the flat ground here, it's a different story. I'm convinced we need to get much higher than what you're used to [[I][B]Free Bird![/B][/I]]---and/thus the natural shot opportunities are far fewer. More brush, vines, saplings, gators, snakes and possums and [[B]General Lee[/B]] just a lot of SITW .
(Do you see what I did there? --- :shocked:)
If you'd ever taken me up on any one of my invitations to hunt at any Camp Swampy you'd know what I'm talking about, but I understand your fear of having your throat cut and your wallet stolen if you cross the Mason-Dixon Line ...
It's not an unreasonable fear ... for you ...
:nk::beer::wave:
17.) luv2bowhunt - 09/16/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61893]If you'd ever taken me up on any one of my invitations to hunt at any Camp Swampy you'd know what I'm talking about, but I understand your fear of having your throat cut and your wallet stolen if you cross the Mason-Dixon Line ...[/QUOTE]
Camp Swampy......yeah I remember..........that's where you almost killed my friend Floyd. He was never the same after that, still walks with a limp.
No thanks, I'm quite capable of killing myself on my own, don't need your help Tarheel.:td:
Camp Swampy......yeah I remember..........that's where you almost killed my friend Floyd. He was never the same after that, still walks with a limp.
No thanks, I'm quite capable of killing myself on my own, don't need your help Tarheel.:td:
18.) Swamp Fox - 09/17/2020
Ouch ...
19.) Swamp Fox - 09/17/2020
I have all my terrain and game cam pics on my little notebook. If I get a chance I'll go through there and see if there's anything informative.
20.) Swamp Fox - 09/17/2020
I'm inclined to start a thread about building a saddle hunting rig from just all the old crap I have sitting around ... Out-of-production or specialty steps of various kinds; platforms from stands too tiny and/or seats too low to tolerate; never- or lightly used harnesses, ropes and carabiners (Oh my!) ...
21.) Swamp Fox - 09/17/2020
GoBucks had a similar idea many moons ago, if I can appropriate an old Indian phrase without offending the Kansas City Chiefs, who now have a dress code for attendance at football games at Arrowhead Stadium....
(Next on the SJW hit-list: Don't Walk Like An Egyptian ... but I digress.)
His idea (roughly speaking, and as best I can remember) was to run a thread and/or competition to see who could put together, hunt and kill with the oldest/cheapest/coolest bow built up from second-hand and used pieces.
No fair taking an old bow off the hanger and swapping out your carefully chosen accessories with weird shit from Ebay, though I personally think that should definitely be a category unto itself. Who doesn't want to see Jon hunt with one of his old Bowtechs rigged with a prong rest and a sight from 1994?
Anyway, somebody get back to me on this ... I have like a million ideas ...
:wink
(Next on the SJW hit-list: Don't Walk Like An Egyptian ... but I digress.)
His idea (roughly speaking, and as best I can remember) was to run a thread and/or competition to see who could put together, hunt and kill with the oldest/cheapest/coolest bow built up from second-hand and used pieces.
No fair taking an old bow off the hanger and swapping out your carefully chosen accessories with weird shit from Ebay, though I personally think that should definitely be a category unto itself. Who doesn't want to see Jon hunt with one of his old Bowtechs rigged with a prong rest and a sight from 1994?
Anyway, somebody get back to me on this ... I have like a million ideas ...
:wink
22.) luv2bowhunt - 09/17/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61896]Ouch ...[/QUOTE]
That's what he said. Haha....that's what...he.............anyway.
I gave my brother my old Bear Polar Whitetail bow years ago. He doesn't use it, wonder if I could get it back. I'll bet you I could hit 100 fps with a carbon arrow out of it.
I miss the joy of watching the arrows in flight out of it at 20 yds. You could shoot, pick up your beer, make a comment to your buddy about your new TM Hunter rest, and still have time to see arrow impact.
Those were the days. Like ArcheryWorld 1.0, I still miss that place.
Of course that was back when Alex was still alive. RIP Alex.
That's what he said. Haha....that's what...he.............anyway.
I gave my brother my old Bear Polar Whitetail bow years ago. He doesn't use it, wonder if I could get it back. I'll bet you I could hit 100 fps with a carbon arrow out of it.
I miss the joy of watching the arrows in flight out of it at 20 yds. You could shoot, pick up your beer, make a comment to your buddy about your new TM Hunter rest, and still have time to see arrow impact.
Those were the days. Like ArcheryWorld 1.0, I still miss that place.
Of course that was back when Alex was still alive. RIP Alex.
23.) bluecat - 09/17/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61900]
I gave my brother my old Bear Polar Whitetail bow years ago. [/QUOTE]
You gave away a Bear Polar Whitetail? We used to dream of having a Bear Polar Whitetail!
I gave my brother my old Bear Polar Whitetail bow years ago. [/QUOTE]
You gave away a Bear Polar Whitetail? We used to dream of having a Bear Polar Whitetail!
24.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61900]That's what he said. Haha....that's what...he.............anyway.
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LOL ... +7
That's damn good for a rookie effort from a drive-by :-):wink ... And I would have scored it higher if the punctuation and capitalization was closer to what I have in my own head as to how I would deliver those lines ...
What I mean to say is that you may have a future in comedy writing if the whole filling potholes thing doesn't work out ...
:-):beer:
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LOL ... +7
That's damn good for a rookie effort from a drive-by :-):wink ... And I would have scored it higher if the punctuation and capitalization was closer to what I have in my own head as to how I would deliver those lines ...
What I mean to say is that you may have a future in comedy writing if the whole filling potholes thing doesn't work out ...
:-):beer:
25.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;61900]
I miss the joy of watching the arrows in flight out of it at 20 yds. You could shoot, pick up your beer, make a comment to your buddy about your new TM Hunter rest, and still have time to see arrow impact.
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This reminds me of my best bow buck, which was taken on camera with an angle behind and slightly to the left of me. I was using a relatively new but slower Mathews solocam at 60 pounds or so, and a carbon arrow fletched with one purple and two flo green/chartreuse feathers, with a flo green/chartreuse nock. You can see *everything* on about a 27-yard shot ... LOL ... It was friggin' awesome. :-)
I miss the joy of watching the arrows in flight out of it at 20 yds. You could shoot, pick up your beer, make a comment to your buddy about your new TM Hunter rest, and still have time to see arrow impact.
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This reminds me of my best bow buck, which was taken on camera with an angle behind and slightly to the left of me. I was using a relatively new but slower Mathews solocam at 60 pounds or so, and a carbon arrow fletched with one purple and two flo green/chartreuse feathers, with a flo green/chartreuse nock. You can see *everything* on about a 27-yard shot ... LOL ... It was friggin' awesome. :-)
26.) bluecat - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61903]This reminds me of my best bow buck, which was taken on camera with an angle behind and slightly to the left of me. I was using a relatively new but slower Mathews solocam at 60 pounds or so, and a carbon arrow fletched with one purple and two flo green/chartreuse feathers, with a flo green/chartreuse nock. You can see *everything* on about a 27-yard shot ... LOL ... It was friggin' awesome. :-)[/QUOTE]
Were you wearing wool plaid? Can you post that footage?
Were you wearing wool plaid? Can you post that footage?
27.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
LOL .... As a matter of fact, I was wearing Natgear, which has been around almost as long as plaid wool. :-)
I still have my old plaid wool hunting shirt somewhere. Haven't seen it in years. It got a big hole in the tail somehow that I do not recall ---it wasn't cut off, LOL --- but I retired it.
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, lower clothing costs ...
I doubt I can post the video. It's prolly on the cloud somewhere ---what the hell am I talking about?--- and I suppose I have a disk. I will add it to the to-do list and make a half-hearted effort to find it for you.
I still have my old plaid wool hunting shirt somewhere. Haven't seen it in years. It got a big hole in the tail somehow that I do not recall ---it wasn't cut off, LOL --- but I retired it.
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, lower clothing costs ...
I doubt I can post the video. It's prolly on the cloud somewhere ---what the hell am I talking about?--- and I suppose I have a disk. I will add it to the to-do list and make a half-hearted effort to find it for you.
28.) bluecat - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;61905]LOL .... As a matter of fact, I was wearing Natgear, which has been around almost as long as plaid wool. :-)
I still have my old plaid wool hunting shirt somewhere. Haven't seen it in years. It got a big hole in the tail somehow that I do not recall ---it wasn't cut off, LOL --- but I retired it.
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, [B]lower clothing costs ... [/B]
I doubt I can post the video. It's prolly on the cloud somewhere ---what the hell am I talking about?--- and I suppose I have a disk. I will add it to the to-do list and make a half-hearted effort to find it for you.[/QUOTE]
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
btw, I used to dream of having NatGear.
I still have my old plaid wool hunting shirt somewhere. Haven't seen it in years. It got a big hole in the tail somehow that I do not recall ---it wasn't cut off, LOL --- but I retired it.
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, [B]lower clothing costs ... [/B]
I doubt I can post the video. It's prolly on the cloud somewhere ---what the hell am I talking about?--- and I suppose I have a disk. I will add it to the to-do list and make a half-hearted effort to find it for you.[/QUOTE]
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
btw, I used to dream of having NatGear.
29.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;61906]That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
btw, I used to dream of having NatGear.[/QUOTE]
It looks nice, and it's not too expensive.
btw, I used to dream of having NatGear.[/QUOTE]
It looks nice, and it's not too expensive.
30.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
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Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, lower clothing costs ...
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Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, [B]lower clothing costs ...[/B][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=bluecat;61906]That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.[/QUOTE]
Did you pick up on the" hunt on your own" = [B]fewer[/B] idiots? .... That was really the money line ...
Don't gyp me on points ...
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, lower clothing costs ...
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[QUOTE]Quote Originally Posted by Swamp Fox View Post
Do buddies still cut the tail off your shirt when you miss? Prolly not. That was always a good reason to hunt on your own. Less disturbance, fewer idiots, [B]lower clothing costs ...[/B][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=bluecat;61906]That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.[/QUOTE]
Did you pick up on the" hunt on your own" = [B]fewer[/B] idiots? .... That was really the money line ...
Don't gyp me on points ...
31.) bluecat - 09/18/2020
I picked up on it. I just didn't find it that funny. Just a lot of fluff.
You really need to put some money in the reference jar next time you walk by it.
You really need to put some money in the reference jar next time you walk by it.
32.) bluecat - 09/18/2020
Oh alright, +4 for the [B]fewer[/B] idiots part. It's the subtle stuff that gets me going.
Self deprecating humor is so yesterday.
Self deprecating humor is so yesterday.
33.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
Maybe I should have rearranged the order of the list ... Put the emphasis on the downbeat ...
34.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;61909]I picked up on it. I just didn't find it that funny. Just a lot of fluff.
[/QUOTE]
You're a *cashier*!
LOL ...
:laugh::grin::wave:
[/QUOTE]
You're a *cashier*!
LOL ...
:laugh::grin::wave:
35.) crookedeye - 09/19/2020
remember that time crookedeye shot that buck that charged him
36.) crookedeye - 09/20/2020
i cant believe we dont have a contest this year..i think we had one of the best contest.."deer" contest on the web..everything was detailed perfectly...the only problem was we couldnt shoot anything.
37.) bluecat - 09/20/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;61932]remember that time crookedeye shot that buck that charged him[/QUOTE]
He's never been the same after that.
He's never been the same after that.
38.) Swamp Fox - 09/21/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;61935]i cant believe we dont have a contest this year..i think we had one of the best contest.."deer" contest on the web..everything was detailed perfectly...the only problem was we couldnt shoot anything.[/QUOTE]
Nah ... We had some good deer and turkey contests, and we shot stuff.
The problem was that it became too much work to get guys to sign up.
I'd announce a contest, and it would go over like a lead balloon.
Guys who weren't going to hunt that year signed up just out of pity...
:bang:
Nah ... We had some good deer and turkey contests, and we shot stuff.
The problem was that it became too much work to get guys to sign up.
I'd announce a contest, and it would go over like a lead balloon.
Guys who weren't going to hunt that year signed up just out of pity...
:bang:
39.) Swamp Fox - 10/08/2020
Luv2, tell us what went wrong with your leaning tree while saddle hunting.
Thx.
Thx.
40.) luv2bowhunt - 10/09/2020
I didn't really notice when I was setting up, but the tree had a slight lean to it. The side I needed to be on was on the downhill side of the lean which means gravity wants to pull you a little farther away from the tree, also much harder to swing around to the side of the tree if you need to move to get a shot.
It wasn't a huge lean but enough to be annoying. My second sit last evening was much better, much more comfortable. With the back band on, the saddle is way more comfortable for the upper body and back than a treestand.
Only thing less comfortable than a tree stand so far, are the knees. I'm wearing knee pads but you still are feeling pressure after awhile on the knees. But all in all after 6 hours hunting out of it, it is comfortable and easy to setup.
It wasn't a huge lean but enough to be annoying. My second sit last evening was much better, much more comfortable. With the back band on, the saddle is way more comfortable for the upper body and back than a treestand.
Only thing less comfortable than a tree stand so far, are the knees. I'm wearing knee pads but you still are feeling pressure after awhile on the knees. But all in all after 6 hours hunting out of it, it is comfortable and easy to setup.
41.) bluecat - 10/09/2020
Can you post a pic?
42.) luv2bowhunt - 10/09/2020
...of? The setup in general or something more specific?
43.) bluecat - 10/09/2020
I'd like to see a pic of it in use, what it looks like, how you go about attaching to a tree, so pretty much everything.
44.) luv2bowhunt - 10/09/2020
Will do. Won't be using it this weekend, will be hunting out of the 1 treestand I have set.
45.) crookedeye - 10/09/2020
i would like to see that too..maybe some video and narrating..
46.) crookedeye - 10/09/2020
some guys luv the thing others dont..it would be a different thing for me since ive been hunting out of treestands my whole life, but i bet you could get used to it.
47.) crookedeye - 10/09/2020
it would probally be the perfect thing for a weekend hunt
48.) bluecat - 10/10/2020
We just need pics. We can provide the narrative.
49.) Swamp Fox - 10/10/2020
Bad knees already have been one thing making me skeptical about saddle hunting. Seems like there should be a way to not be crammed up against the tree with your knees at a bad angle, but I think it's a platform, which kinda defeats the idea of a lightweight system, especially if you climb with sticks you carry in each time.
Setting up in the dark in unknown/first-time trees is another hurdle I referenced earlier.
I look forward to following how your learning curve goes. You can make all the mistakes and experience all the misery so I don't have to ... :wink:-) :wave:
Setting up in the dark in unknown/first-time trees is another hurdle I referenced earlier.
I look forward to following how your learning curve goes. You can make all the mistakes and experience all the misery so I don't have to ... :wink:-) :wave:
50.) Swamp Fox - 10/10/2020
[QUOTE=bluecat;62058]We just need pics. We can provide the narrative.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
:shh::bad:
:pop:
LOL ...
:shh::bad:
:pop:
51.) luv2bowhunt - 10/12/2020
[QUOTE=crookedeye;62055]i would like to see that too..maybe some video and narrating..[/QUOTE]
LOL, maybe I could post a TikTok video of it.
LOL, maybe I could post a TikTok video of it.
52.) luv2bowhunt - 10/12/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62059]Seems like there should be a way to not be crammed up against the tree with your knees at a bad angle, but I think it's a platform, which kinda defeats the idea of a lightweight system, especially if you climb with sticks you carry in each time.[/QUOTE]
Not really. You need some kind of a platform or ring of steps. I went with the Out On A Limb Ridge Runner. Weighs 4 lbs with the strap, added to my 6lbs of sticks is still only 10 lbs. It's big enough to stand on too, which is nice for taking a short break from the saddle, make a strap or bridge adjustment, or to turn and shoot from the weak side.
I've found there is a bunch of things to do to slightly change your position so you're not putting too much pressure on any one part of your anatomy. The leaning/standing position is by far the most comfortable for me so far. Your weight is distributed across your butt, feet, and back with the back strap on. A nice balance that feels comfortable for long stretches.
Tethrd just came out with an 18 1/2" stick that weighs just under 1 lb/each. They're not cheap, but 5 of those with an aider would be the ticket I think. That would save another lb and in certain setups, you might only need 4 sticks.
Not really. You need some kind of a platform or ring of steps. I went with the Out On A Limb Ridge Runner. Weighs 4 lbs with the strap, added to my 6lbs of sticks is still only 10 lbs. It's big enough to stand on too, which is nice for taking a short break from the saddle, make a strap or bridge adjustment, or to turn and shoot from the weak side.
I've found there is a bunch of things to do to slightly change your position so you're not putting too much pressure on any one part of your anatomy. The leaning/standing position is by far the most comfortable for me so far. Your weight is distributed across your butt, feet, and back with the back strap on. A nice balance that feels comfortable for long stretches.
Tethrd just came out with an 18 1/2" stick that weighs just under 1 lb/each. They're not cheap, but 5 of those with an aider would be the ticket I think. That would save another lb and in certain setups, you might only need 4 sticks.
53.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2020
See, there's the problem. At 10 pounds without the weight of the saddle, ropes and related gear, I might as well bring a 12-or 13-pound climber from the good old days, or pre-set my stands.
The other problem is that I want to be much higher in the tree than I see most saddle hunters hunting. I enjoy the internet crowing about getting 20 feet high with four sticks (10 pounds). Good on ya. jack, but I'm going up to the second floor. :re: ... My sets are 5 or 6 "stick" sets minimum, and at that point you have left the realm of lightweight hunting, even using aiders. I think you're back to lag bolts and boot spikes and all that old-school stuff.
I don't have a problem with saddle hunting, I just have a problem with the way it's presented as a light-weight mobile system when using sticks. I've been hunting out of a rock climbing harness for a considerable time. I've surfed the tree doctor sites for years, LOL. I'm a fan of tree sticks, just not of carrying them in and out every day while saying I'm hunting "mobile" and "lightweight".
From the land where the woods are flat and "It's not the heat it's the humidity," I bid you Good Day, sir, and realize your experience may vary.
:wink
:wave:
:pop:
The other problem is that I want to be much higher in the tree than I see most saddle hunters hunting. I enjoy the internet crowing about getting 20 feet high with four sticks (10 pounds). Good on ya. jack, but I'm going up to the second floor. :re: ... My sets are 5 or 6 "stick" sets minimum, and at that point you have left the realm of lightweight hunting, even using aiders. I think you're back to lag bolts and boot spikes and all that old-school stuff.
I don't have a problem with saddle hunting, I just have a problem with the way it's presented as a light-weight mobile system when using sticks. I've been hunting out of a rock climbing harness for a considerable time. I've surfed the tree doctor sites for years, LOL. I'm a fan of tree sticks, just not of carrying them in and out every day while saying I'm hunting "mobile" and "lightweight".
From the land where the woods are flat and "It's not the heat it's the humidity," I bid you Good Day, sir, and realize your experience may vary.
:wink
:wave:
:pop:
54.) luv2bowhunt - 10/13/2020
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62079]See, there's the problem. At 10 pounds without the weight of the saddle, ropes and related gear, I might as well bring a 12-or 13-pound climber from the good old days, or pre-set my stands.
The other problem is that I want to be much higher in the tree than I see most saddle hunters hunting. I enjoy the internet crowing about getting 20 feet high with four sticks (10 pounds). Good on ya. jack, but I'm going up to the second floor. :re: ... My sets are 5 or 6 "stick" sets minimum, and at that point you have left the realm of lightweight hunting, even using aiders. I think you're back to lag bolts and boot spikes and all that old-school stuff.
I don't have a problem with saddle hunting, I just have a problem with the way it's presented as a light-weight mobile system when using sticks. I've been hunting out of a rock climbing harness for a considerable time. I've surfed the tree doctor sites for years, LOL. I'm a fan of tree sticks, just not of carrying them in and out every day while saying I'm hunting "mobile" and "lightweight". [/QUOTE]
The weight of the saddle and ropes is mostly cancelled out imo. I wear the saddle in and don't even notice it on, besides, the stand hunter also has to bring a safety harness and tree tether. Not a huge difference between the two.
The only climber I know of under 14 lbs is the X-Stand Climber. I checked it out years ago, thought I'd buy one, but after handling it I decided it looked like a piece of junk. The Lone Wolf Assault weighs 14.7 lbs, the Summit Open Shot and the Muddy Stalker both weigh 15 lbs., and the API Bowhunter I have is pushing 20 lbs.
So I don't see a climber being as lightweight and I also don't have to find a telephone pole to hunt out of like you do with a climber. I prefer trees with branches and cover, which is why I got away from climbers in the first place and started using hang-on stands. I can tell you from my hunts so far, the sticks and platform are much easier to carrier in than a climber and much lighter too.
As far as climbing height, that's your preference. Again, finding a tree that offers cover at 18 feet has worked well for me. I'm much more worried about cover than height. I'll leave the nose bleed elevation to you, make sure you tie yourself off while going up and down from that height. Might want to bring some oxygen along too.
But I will remind you, I never tried to talk anyone on here into saddle hunting. I just mentioned I was giving it a go this year. If it's not for someone else I get it. Heaven knows it ain't cheap. I was going to post a thread about it but I think I'll pass. Probably just going to backfire on me anyway.
To each his own, you do you, and I'll do me.
The other problem is that I want to be much higher in the tree than I see most saddle hunters hunting. I enjoy the internet crowing about getting 20 feet high with four sticks (10 pounds). Good on ya. jack, but I'm going up to the second floor. :re: ... My sets are 5 or 6 "stick" sets minimum, and at that point you have left the realm of lightweight hunting, even using aiders. I think you're back to lag bolts and boot spikes and all that old-school stuff.
I don't have a problem with saddle hunting, I just have a problem with the way it's presented as a light-weight mobile system when using sticks. I've been hunting out of a rock climbing harness for a considerable time. I've surfed the tree doctor sites for years, LOL. I'm a fan of tree sticks, just not of carrying them in and out every day while saying I'm hunting "mobile" and "lightweight". [/QUOTE]
The weight of the saddle and ropes is mostly cancelled out imo. I wear the saddle in and don't even notice it on, besides, the stand hunter also has to bring a safety harness and tree tether. Not a huge difference between the two.
The only climber I know of under 14 lbs is the X-Stand Climber. I checked it out years ago, thought I'd buy one, but after handling it I decided it looked like a piece of junk. The Lone Wolf Assault weighs 14.7 lbs, the Summit Open Shot and the Muddy Stalker both weigh 15 lbs., and the API Bowhunter I have is pushing 20 lbs.
So I don't see a climber being as lightweight and I also don't have to find a telephone pole to hunt out of like you do with a climber. I prefer trees with branches and cover, which is why I got away from climbers in the first place and started using hang-on stands. I can tell you from my hunts so far, the sticks and platform are much easier to carrier in than a climber and much lighter too.
As far as climbing height, that's your preference. Again, finding a tree that offers cover at 18 feet has worked well for me. I'm much more worried about cover than height. I'll leave the nose bleed elevation to you, make sure you tie yourself off while going up and down from that height. Might want to bring some oxygen along too.
But I will remind you, I never tried to talk anyone on here into saddle hunting. I just mentioned I was giving it a go this year. If it's not for someone else I get it. Heaven knows it ain't cheap. I was going to post a thread about it but I think I'll pass. Probably just going to backfire on me anyway.
To each his own, you do you, and I'll do me.
55.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2020
Boo, hiss.
:bang::bad:
No, you should put a thread on here about it. I'm interested. I'm just giving you my point of view as it stands at the moment. I'm not arguing against your choice.
I have some old climbers that would go 13 pounds or under, but I understand the telephone pole thing. I know there are some sticks and aiders that would total under 2.5 # per section. I get it that the saddle and attachment gear might equal or even be less than the harness of a traditional treestand hunter with a three-point system. I'll point out that 18 feet up puts you directly in a deer's line of sight as it approaches in many/most places here, and the "cover" doesn't begin for six or seven (or more) feet in many cases.
So I'm interested in anything anyone who has the smarts and the pioneering spirit to optimize the system has to say.
I think the saddle idea is probably very useful for a lot of guys. I'm just looking for it to get to the next level.
I want to see where you're starting from and where you'll take it.
:bang::bad:
No, you should put a thread on here about it. I'm interested. I'm just giving you my point of view as it stands at the moment. I'm not arguing against your choice.
I have some old climbers that would go 13 pounds or under, but I understand the telephone pole thing. I know there are some sticks and aiders that would total under 2.5 # per section. I get it that the saddle and attachment gear might equal or even be less than the harness of a traditional treestand hunter with a three-point system. I'll point out that 18 feet up puts you directly in a deer's line of sight as it approaches in many/most places here, and the "cover" doesn't begin for six or seven (or more) feet in many cases.
So I'm interested in anything anyone who has the smarts and the pioneering spirit to optimize the system has to say.
I think the saddle idea is probably very useful for a lot of guys. I'm just looking for it to get to the next level.
I want to see where you're starting from and where you'll take it.
56.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2020
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;62085] I was going to post a thread about it but I think I'll pass. Probably just going to backfire on me anyway.
To each his own, you do you, and I'll do me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62087]Boo, hiss. [/QUOTE]
Don't make *ME* start a saddle thread .... LOL
:poke::fire:
To each his own, you do you, and I'll do me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;62087]Boo, hiss. [/QUOTE]
Don't make *ME* start a saddle thread .... LOL
:poke::fire:
57.) Swamp Fox - 11/07/2020
[QUOTE]Greetings!
We are reaching out to all of our customer who have purchased the Sterling OpLux 8mm Tactical line.
There have been failures of this line & accidents when people have attempted to use it as a Climbing Line.
THIS IS NOT A CLIMBING LINE.
It is not rated for a climbing line.
This is intended for repelling [sic], or as a tether, etc.
WesSpur has pulled the item from our website at this time to conduct testing on the product.
If you have ANY questions, please let us know and we will have you speak directly to our Arborist, Dave Stice.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
CARRY ON.
We are reaching out to all of our customer who have purchased the Sterling OpLux 8mm Tactical line.
There have been failures of this line & accidents when people have attempted to use it as a Climbing Line.
THIS IS NOT A CLIMBING LINE.
It is not rated for a climbing line.
This is intended for repelling [sic], or as a tether, etc.
WesSpur has pulled the item from our website at this time to conduct testing on the product.
If you have ANY questions, please let us know and we will have you speak directly to our Arborist, Dave Stice.[/QUOTE]
LOL ...
CARRY ON.
58.) DParker - 11/08/2020
This is directed at the same people who need to be reminded that shampoo is not intended for internal consumption.
59.) bluecat - 11/08/2020
What about bleach? Asking for a friend.
60.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2020
LOL ....