1.) DParker - 12/06/2017

TX Parks and Wildlife puts metal signs up to mark public land hunting units...and the trees just eat them.

2.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

It's really kind of amazing how quickly a tree will grow. I went looking for examples of old "catfaced" trees growing over their scars (from resin harvesting for turpentine and rosin) and found this , LOL. I don't know if it's manipulated or not. Below it is a tree growing over its old resin trough. Pines grow very fast. You'll lose steps and stands pretty quick if you don't take care of them every year.





Catface:





Bonus piano growing around tree:

3.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

Well, I don't know where all that extra stuff came from. I just wanted the piano pic.


But a bonus is a bonus, I guess.

4.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

This is what resin collection looks like. The second pic shows why they call it catface ... Think whiskers. The slashes progress up the tree, as each slash or group of slashes quits producing sap.

5.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

Does that kill the tree Swamp?

6.) billy b - 12/06/2017

That's all pretty neat.

7.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53499]Does that kill the tree Swamp?[/QUOTE]


No, not this method. At least not in and of itself. The first tree I posted is probably at least five or seven years past its last use as a sap tree. At least that's my guess. The black marks on it are from controlled burns (which might be too obvious, but I'll say so anyway, LOL). The sunken cavity might be from insect infestation, which may or may not kill the tree eventually.

They used to use a method (pre-20th century) callled boxing that cut into the tree fairly deeply to to use it to catch its own sap, but when they went to this method using gutters, troughs and cups to catch the resin they were able to keep the trees alive and not weaken them. Boxing killed trees relatively quickly, or at least put them at high risk, thus the newer method. The cups used to catch the resin are called Herty cups, after the guy who came up with the method. They're clay or metal.

These resin trees are either slash pine or longleaf pine, typically. People are trying to bring back the longleaf pine so I doubt they get tapped much anymore, but there is no shortage of slash pine, LOL. There's hardly any U.S. turpentine or "pine tar" industry in the U. S. these days, at least compared to what it once was, so anyone who's still tapping pine trees is doing it on a fairly small scale. The resin and its derivatives have all sorts of uses. I'll see if I can dig something up.

8.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[I]Professor Charles H. Herty demonstrating his cup-and-gutter system of turpentine gathering in a 1907 magazine article. Image from Archive.org.
[/I]



I bet he never thought he'd be famous on HuntingCountry, LOL








[url]https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/herty-charles-holmes[/url]

9.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

Here's a good thread with info on history and uses. If you read into the thread, you'll see that you can actually find U.S. resin products if you look.


[url]https://permies.com/t/13777/Domestic-Turpentine-longer-exists-USA[/url]

10.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

Bonus sports trivia:


[B]THE OTHER ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE
What Is Pine Tar And Why Is It Illegal In Baseball?[/B]


[url]http://digg.com/2014/what-is-pine-tar-and-why-is-it-illegal-in-baseball[/url]


[B][SIZE=2]Pine Tar Game: An oral history of the most controversial home run ever hit[/SIZE][/B]

[url]https://www.si.com/mlb/2016/07/22/pine-tar-game-brett-gossage-royals-yankees[/url]

11.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53503]Here's a good thread with info on history and uses. If you read into the thread, you'll see that you can actually find U.S. resin products if you look.


[url]https://permies.com/t/13777/Domestic-Turpentine-longer-exists-USA[/url][/QUOTE]

I use pine tar shampoo. Sounds bad but it's a great shampoo with a great scent.

12.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53502]

[I]Professor Charles H. Herty demonstrating his cup-and-gutter system of turpentine gathering in a 1907 magazine article. Image from Archive.org.
[/I]



I bet he never thought he'd be famous on HuntingCountry, LOL






.




[url]https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/herty-charles-holmes[/url][/QUOTE]

I'm wondering if he took two years to develop that flower pot specialized vessel...

13.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53506]I'm wondering if he took two years to develop that flower pot specialized vessel...[/QUOTE]


It took a while to make the connection between the pot and collection. LOL

Once he figured out how to put the nail hole in it, though, he was off to the races. :grin:

Bonus points to you for the My Pillow reference ... :wink

14.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53505]I use pine tar shampoo. Sounds bad but it's a great shampoo with a great scent.[/QUOTE]


I've seen pine tar soap, but never tried it. There are supposed to be healthy skin and disinfectant properties to pine products (think PineSol). My dad loved turpentine for all sorts of things, not just cleaning paint brushes, LOL. I think it was a generational thing. I also remember pine tar, pitch, "gum" and oils for a bunch of different purposes--- liniments, curatives, polish, fleas, insect repellent, moth prevention etc.--- from parents and grandparents.

15.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

More on the pine tar game.

If you ever watch the video of that game, you'll see the umpire lay the bat across the plate as the plate is 18" across. So he was using that as a reference. Did the rule (length of pine tar restriction) come from the width of the plate? I'm guessing yes.

16.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[quote]George Brett (Royals third baseman, 1973 to '93): I hated everyone on the Yankees, I really did. I hated 'em all, back in that era.[/quote]

LOL!

17.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53509]More on the pine tar game.

If you ever watch the video of that game, you'll see the umpire lay the bat across the plate as the plate is 18" across. So he was using that as a reference. Did the rule (length of pine tar restriction) come from the width of the plate? I'm guessing yes.[/QUOTE]

I missed that. I always assumed it was somewhat arbitrary, but I'll bet you're right.

18.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

You've been gone a while when this happens:

19.) DParker - 12/06/2017

Posting a photo here is like poking a really small hornets' nest.

20.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

LOL ...

21.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

I bet you didn't think we'd get 20 posts out of it ... LOL

22.) DParker - 12/06/2017

I was impressed that it took a whole 3 hours to morph from a thread about trees eating metal signs to one about baseball.

23.) DParker - 12/06/2017

It's just a pity that we were driving too fast down the highway for my son to get some video of the dozen or so vultures circling over the top of the Paris (TX) Regional Medical Center (hospital) as we passed by. We got a good chuckle out of that.

24.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=DParker;53516]I was impressed that it took a whole 3 hours to morph from a thread about trees eating metal signs to one about baseball.[/QUOTE]

2 snickers and 1 muffled giggle

25.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53512]You've been gone a while when this happens:

[/QUOTE]

Here lies Willy Fry
Put roots in the earth before and after he die

26.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[I]Epitaph[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]Here reposes William Frye,
All said a most relentless guy.
Withstood he many life's cruel pokes
But stood no chance 'gainst mighty oaks.[/I]

27.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=DParker;53517]It's just a pity that we were driving too fast down the highway for my son to get some video of the dozen or so vultures circling over the top of the Paris (TX) Regional Medical Center (hospital) as we passed by. We got a good chuckle out of that.[/QUOTE]

Wednesdays must be medical waste pickup day. "Bring out your..."

28.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53520][I]Epithaph[/I]

--by Swamp Fox



[I]Here reposes William Frye,

All said a most relentless guy.

Withstood he many life's cruel pokes

But stood no chance 'gainst mighty oaks.[/I][/QUOTE]

+10 :applause:

29.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

30.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[QUOTE=DParker;53517]It's just a pity that we were driving too fast down the highway for my son to get some video of the dozen or so vultures circling over the top of the Paris (TX) Regional Medical Center (hospital) as we passed by. We got a good chuckle out of that.[/QUOTE]



"Buzzards gotta eat, same as interns ..."

31.) bluecat - 12/06/2017

[I]Here lies William Frye
The bastard simply would not die
Lived through fever and did not croak
The thing that got him was the mighty oak[/I]

32.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

Very good. :-) "Croak" is such a great word.

33.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[I]Summer Nap[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]Under here lies William Frye.
Remember him but do not sigh.
For as he is, so you shall be
But it's nice and cool beneath a tree. [/I]

34.) Swamp Fox - 12/06/2017

[I]Missed It By That Much[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]We dug a hole for William Frye
And picked this spot -- Don't ask us why.
Now of course we see the light:
His grave is too far to the right. [/I]

35.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

Those are gold Jerry, gold!

36.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

[I]William Frye
His bark was worse than his bite[/I]

37.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]He Looked Fabulous[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]This is where rests William Frye,
A very metro blondish guy.
Great hair seemed one of his best attributes
But we see problems with the roots.[/I]

38.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]Stunt Your Enthusiasm[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]Beneath this ground lies William Frye.
In cool shade we said goodbye.
Best don't laugh at this encroaching tree--
It might be warmer where you will be. [/I]

39.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

I think you missed your calling as an epitaph writer.

40.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

William Frye
Was a chap
But now he sleeps
Within the sap

41.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53533]I think you missed your calling as an epitaph writer.[/QUOTE]



I might still have time, but I don't know ...LOL

42.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]Was It Funny For You, Too? [/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]William Frye really liked the joke
Where after sex he'd sometimes smoke.
His girlfriend always thought it good
And she'll be pleased he's getting wood.[/I]

43.) DParker - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53536]Was It Funny For You, Too?
---by Swamp Fox[/QUOTE]

44.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

LOL ...

45.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

Here lies beneath this tree
Two nuts the squirrels won't see.

46.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53538]LOL ...


[/QUOTE]

47.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53539]Here lies beneath this tree
Two nuts the squirrels won't see.[/QUOTE]


....

48.) DParker - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53541]....[/QUOTE]

I haven't even watched the video and I'm going to give it a +87.

49.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

:-) ....

50.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

[I]Here I sleep beneath this tree
With a crick in my back and a jacked up knee
I wish I could put my legs down flat
Instead I'm rolled like a rubber mat[/I]

51.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

:tu::applause:

I can't find the internet tombstone generator I used last time I needed one ---LOL--(Prolly should have saved those masterpieces, too :wink) but if I could, I'd put this (stolen) bit of wisdom on it:


[QUOTE][SIZE=2][I]Five Rules To Leave You For A Happy Life:[/SIZE]

1. It's important to have a woman who helps at home, cooks from time to time, cleans up, and has a job.

2. It's important to have a woman who can make you laugh.

3. It's important to have a woman who you can trust, and doesn't lie to you.

4. It's important to have a woman who is good in bed, and likes to be with you.

5. It's very, very important that these four women do not know each other, or you could end up dead like me.

[/I][/QUOTE]

52.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]It's All Relative[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]I used to like to camp, you see.
I loved to sleep beneath a tree.
But now that I am gone at last
I notice how they grow so fast. [/I]

53.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]Brave New World[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]Surfing 'cross the net one day,
Posting stuff I wouldn't say
if you were standing next to me--
Doxxing got me 'neath this tree. [/I]

54.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[I]Nature Abhors a Vacuum[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]I've been down here many years,
And for you up there shed dusty tears.
When it's time, there's plenty room.
Just one thing: Please bring a broom.[/I]

55.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53551][I]Nature Abhors a Vacuum[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]I've been down here many years,
And for you up there shed dusty tears.
When it's time, there's plenty room.
Just one thing: Please bring a broom.[/I][/QUOTE]

You clever man.

56.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

Well, not clever enough to get "upright" and "cordless" in there on the first try, but I'm still working on it. :dig:


You know there are people out there who say you shouldn't encourage me, right?


LOL---


:bad:

:p

57.) bluecat - 12/07/2017

[I]Lives Well Lived[/I]

[I]I used to be a simple man
A life of indecorum
But now I am a big shot
upon a hunting forum
1836 - 1890, 2017 -
[/I]

58.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

:grin: :applause:


That a lot of points, LOL

"It's a small but elite group..."

:beer:

59.) Swamp Fox - 12/07/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53555][I]Lives Well Lived[/I]

[I]I used to be a simple man
A life of indecorum
But now I am a big shot
upon a hunting forum
1836 - 1890, 2017 -
[/I][/QUOTE]


Okay, I think I missed this day in class.

At first I thought I was on the track, but that turned out to be 1871 – 1922... But I was only 30 or 40 years off, so that's almost a win, right? LOL ...But it does mean I'm still scratching my head.

Do I get a clue?

60.) bluecat - 12/08/2017

I'm not understanding the controversy.

61.) Swamp Fox - 12/08/2017

I'm not understanding the dates.

62.) bluecat - 12/08/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;53555][I]Lives Well Lived[/I]

[I]I used to be a simple man
A life of indecorum
But now I am a big shot
upon a hunting forum
1836 - 1890, 2017 -
[/I][/QUOTE]
Basically Mr. Frye lived an unassuming life but he has come back to life as a topic in a hunting forum.

My attempt at humor...fail.

63.) Swamp Fox - 12/08/2017

LOL ...No, I get the basic idea ...I just thought the dates might have had meaning.

The title "A Life Well Lived" is a real poem, but the dates are off, so I thought I must be missing something, like Who's buried in Grant's Tomb?


You get to keep all your points, and I'll shut up now...

64.) bluecat - 12/08/2017

Huh, I was familiar enough with the title of poem but didn't realize there were dates involved. I just made up my dates. Sorry for confusion. Lol.

65.) Swamp Fox - 12/08/2017

The joke's on me. I thought I knew the author, and that's where I came up with the dates. But looking further, I find no connection. As a poem, I find it listed as "Author unknown." There are several books with the title. So why the phrase is in my head, I don't know, now. My guess is I ran across it as a bit of philosophy, pop or otherwise.

66.) Swamp Fox - 12/08/2017

[I]Cutting to the Chase[/I]
---by Swamp Fox


[I]William Frye was a thoughtful guy
Who felt he'd led a life well lived.
A flagrant flirt, he chased some skirt
And wound up here, well, shivved. [/I]

67.) bluecat - 12/11/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53512]You've been gone a while when this happens:

[/QUOTE]


[I]A Tomb with a View[/I] by bluecat

[I]Tommy got the good grave
With a pleasant view
I'm slowly being eaten
There is nothing I can do[/I]

68.) bluecat - 12/11/2017

[I]A Horse Chestnut with No Name[/I] by bluecat

[I]They used to call me William
And shortly I'll be Will
Ed will be my middle name
No surname here in Hell[/I]

69.) Swamp Fox - 12/11/2017

Both very good! :tu:

Tommy got a lot more written on his headstone for some reason. I tried to read it, but can't even with a magnifying glass at max zoom. Yes, I tried that, LOL.

I'd love to get info on that cemetery and poor old William Frye. He's a strong contender for a dedication in my first book of poetry, LOL.

At first I thought it might be a military marker, but you'd think there would be more info on the stone. If they had his name, they'd have his rank and unit, conflict, maybe dates, etc.

Then I thought maybe a new headstone for an old or unmarked grave, but couldn't figure out a reason for a city or state marking ("North") in a local graveyard. A North Carolinian buried overseas? Out-of-state? It's the wrong shape and design for a post-war government-issued Confederate marker, and again, lacks information that is usually supplied on a military marker.

Private marker for a stranger who died far from home? That could explain the placement of the marker too close to the tree, LOL. Stranger didn't get the best of care, LOL.

Where's somebody with a ouija board when you need one?

70.) Swamp Fox - 12/11/2017

[I]
Shouldn't Have Said That[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]William Frye was a quiet guy,
With not much at all to say.
Where he was from,
And then he was done,
Except for that one time he said something about my sister.
[/I]

71.) Swamp Fox - 12/11/2017

[I]Looks Like Rain[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]You think it's bad, and a little sad,
That I was chunked too near this tree.
But the absolute worst, and I'll say it first,
Is all the dogs that come over to pee.
[/I]

72.) bluecat - 12/11/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;53690][I]
Shouldn't Have Said That[/I]
---by Swamp Fox

[I]William Frye was a quiet guy,
With not much at all to say.
Where he was from,
And then he was done,
Except for that one time he said something about my sister.
[/I][/QUOTE]

I'm giving that 4 out of 5 whisker biscuits. That was fabulous. You really have a gift you know.

73.) Swamp Fox - 12/11/2017

Thank you, thank you very much. I'll be here all week, unfortunately.