1.) DParker - 10/20/2017

[URL="https://www.yeti.com/buckets/loadout-5-gallon-bucket/26010000013.html?country=US¤cy=USD&CAWELAID=120329620000000928&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=43110935422&CATCI=pla-347986973214&gclid=CjwKCAjwmqHPBRBQEiwAOvbR82xOWgAl_rNrgz3o3QyQBGdRVnkf3KHZc31yNYz-s-Q3k4dDfk18hBoCxakQAvD_BwE"]Yeti: LOADOUT 5-GALLON BUCKET[/URL]

I know people love their Yeti coolers. But 40 bucks for.....a 5 gallon plastic bucket? How have I been making do all these years with $2.97 Homer buckets?

2.) DParker - 10/20/2017

Oh, and...another $29.99 if you want the lid. :grin:

3.) bluecat - 10/20/2017

Your Home Depot buckets don't come in Sea Foam though.

4.) DParker - 10/20/2017

It's true. I have no fashion sense.

5.) Swamp Fox - 10/20/2017

LOL ... I'd heard of them but didn't know the pricing. I'm actually surprised they're that low, LOL. Well, except for the lid; that's outrageous.

I can think of a few uses for them (hauling gear as shown would not be one, at almost 6 pounds empty) but I think my favorite thing about them is that they're food-safe.

That way, if you need something to carry your ice tea or macaroni and cheese in, you're good to go.

6.) DParker - 10/20/2017

I used to make wine and brew beer, and needed food-safe 5 gal buckets to use as primary fermentation containers. I used pickle buckets that I got for free from a restaurant owner and the used a little bleach and elbow grease to scrub the pickle smell out of (the buckets, not the restaurant owner).

7.) bluecat - 10/20/2017

I do/did the same thing DP. I get pickle buckets from a bbq place here.

We have white rice that has a very nice dill pickle flavor.

8.) DParker - 10/20/2017

I'm kinda' scared of Swampy now. I mean, anyone who can eat 5 gallons of mac-n-cheese....

9.) Swamp Fox - 10/20/2017

I'm a growing boy ...

10.) bluecat - 10/20/2017

The other rugged feature of the YETI bucket is the term "LOAD OUT". I mean, can't you just feel the wind blowing through your tousled hair - your 3-days growth beard and your wool shirt as you're packing out really manly stuff like ...well, canned chili, diet-coke, flip flops, barbie fishing pole, O magazine, tanning oil, alarm clock, pillow.

The great outdoors, [deep breath], you man enough to handle it big boy? Well, the YETI bucket is.

11.) Swamp Fox - 10/20/2017

LOL ...


You know who was the first to order a Yeti bucket?

This guy:

12.) bluecat - 10/20/2017

I like how he has a two-level effect going on there.


"Pioneer spirit is so over-rated"...

13.) Swamp Fox - 10/20/2017

The feng shui of that campsite is FABULOUS ...

14.) bluecat - 10/20/2017

The "campers" are not there right now, they are all at the mall then some take out and back to enjoy wilderness.

15.) Bob Peck - 10/23/2017

Yeti this? Yeti that?

No doubt well-made nicely engineered products but IMO waaay overpriced unless of course you're a heavy duty user in need of long lasting cooling characteristics (charter captain, etc.).

Knock offs and Yeti privately branded wanna be products are eating hard into their market share and devaluing their brand. It doesn't surprise me they are stretching into products like this one that make absolutely no sense. WTH?! A dang bucket?!

16.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

Yeti hasn't been in the cooler business for a while. They've moved squarely into the lifestyle business. It's an extremely interesting story if you're into that kind of thing.

I knew we'd passed the point of no return when people were going ape poo over their travel mugs. I've never seen one for less than $30 -- more like $40. I think I paid 99 cents for the mug I use from the Kangaroo, and that's entitled me to free jumbo coffee refills for the last 25 years. I'd say I got my money out of it.

(On the other hand, have you seen what Thermos charges for a travel mug? Holy insulated hell, Batman!)

Although I've never been impressed with Yeti's coolers, I will put in a word of defense for the bucket. If your regular buckets stay outside in the sun or cold and also take a beating, they don't last long. I pick up old hydraulic fluid buckets I find as often as I can, and even those don't last long (forget about the near impossibility of cleaning them sufficiently).

A roto-molded bucket has a lot of DIY project potential, but whether pimped out or not, the downside is that one that says Yeti on it is one more thing to worry about people stealing out of your boat, LOL.

17.) DParker - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52555]If your regular buckets stay outside in the sun or cold and also take a beating, they don't last long.[/QUOTE]

The Loadout is made from HDPE ([B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]H[/COLOR][/I][/B]igh [B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]D[/COLOR][/I][/B]ensity [B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]P[/COLOR][/I][/B]oly[B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]e[/COLOR][/I][/B]thylene), which is why it's food-safe...so I don't know that it would resist breakdown from ultraviolet light better than any other food-safe bucket. I haven't been able to find any reference to any special stabilizers that they might use over and above what's in your average pickle bucket...though I suppose they might.

18.) Bob Peck - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52555]Yeti hasn't been in the cooler business for a while. [/QUOTE]
Not sure what you mean here but in the high-end (read "pricey") luxury cooler category they still lead the pack. I think Austin-based brothers Roy and Ryan Seiders did a masterful job building the brand. In 2012 they sold their majority interest in Yeti to private equity firm Cortec Group Management Services. With these new deeper pockets things for Yeti took off.

Earnings in 2015 = $14.2 million
Earnings in 2016 = $72.2 million.

YETI's sales have increased from $147.7 million in 2015 to $468.9 million in 2016. Whoa baby! I imagine any business person would take that kind of growth all day long.

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52555]They've moved squarely into the lifestyle business. It's an extremely interesting story if you're into that kind of thing. [/QUOTE]
Very true and hence the aggressive growth. The hunting community pond has clearly defined edges whereas the consumer ocean does not.

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52555]I knew we'd passed the point of no return when people were going ape poo over their travel mugs.[/QUOTE]
LOL! :laugh: This was the exact moment when I stopped paying attention to Yeti. Gimme a break.

19.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=DParker;52557]The Loadout is made from HDPE ([B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]H[/COLOR][/I][/B]igh [B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]D[/COLOR][/I][/B]ensity [B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]P[/COLOR][/I][/B]oly[B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"]e[/COLOR][/I][/B]thylene), which is why it's food-safe...so I don't know that it would resist breakdown from ultraviolet light better than any other food-safe bucket. I haven't been able to find any reference to any special stabilizers that they might use over and above what's in your average pickle bucket...though I suppose they might.[/QUOTE]

I suppose I was referring to overbuilt construction (a 6 # bucket!) and the assumption that UV resistance is an automatic design requirement, given Yeti's background and that fishermen are a major target market.


Let me know if you find anything fer or agin that theory. :beer:

(Also, I figured out the buckets are not roto-molded, but injection molded.)

20.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Bob Peck;52558]Not sure what you mean here but in the high-end (read "pricey") luxury cooler category they still lead the pack. I think Austin-based brothers Roy and Ryan Seiders did a masterful job building the brand. In 2012 they sold their majority interest in Yeti to private equity firm Cortec Group Management Services. With these new deeper pockets things for Yeti took off.

Earnings in 2015 = $14.2 million
Earnings in 2016 = $72.2 million.

[/QUOTE]


I meant that Yeti is not in the cooler business the same way Hooters is not in the chicken wings business. Their sales and growth are the proof, or this thread would have either never appeared, or would have been about Igloo's MaxCold. You can put beer in those, too ...LOL



[I][SIZE=2][B]Sell the sizzle, not the steak.[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE=1][B]-----ancient Chinese proverb[/B][/SIZE]

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21.) Bob Peck - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52560]I meant that Yeti is not in the cooler business the same way Hooters is not in the chicken wings business. [/QUOTE]
There are 72.2 million examples of how Yeti is definitely in the cooler business long after initially selling the sizzle.

The consumer (if they even know about Yeti) associate the brand with coolers and less so with mugs, buckets, etc.

If you mean that diversifying their product offering (initially focused entirely on coolers) they have diluted their brand by going "lifestyle" then I guess we agree. This isn't a bad thing. The equity firm took a controlling interest in order to grow the company and leverage the hell out of their investment.

Your comparison with Hooters is interesting. Hooters sold/sells T&A. Men and women justified going there by saying how awesome the wings were. Like reading Playboy for the articles. Men and women justify the outrageous price of Yeti products by touting how long contents stay cold.

22.) DParker - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Bob Peck;52561]Hooters sold/sells T&A. Men and women justified going there by saying how awesome the wings were.[/QUOTE]

Years ago I worked with an older divorced guy who swore up-and-down that was why he went. So I let him talk me into going with him to lunch one day. The wings were terrible (they were bland and about 80% breading), the service was awful and the waitresses...however visually attractive some of them were...had surly attitudes. I've never been back. When we left I suggested he look into this newfangled thing called, "The Internet".

23.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

Hooters sells wings?

24.) DParker - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;52563]Hooters sells wings?[/QUOTE]

Yeti sells coolers?

25.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Bob Peck;52561]There are 72.2 million examples of how Yeti is definitely in the cooler business long after initially selling the sizzle.

The consumer (if they even know about Yeti) associate the brand with coolers and less so with mugs, buckets, etc.

If you mean that diversifying their product offering (initially focused entirely on coolers) they have diluted their brand by going "lifestyle" then I guess we agree. This isn't a bad thing. The equity firm took a controlling interest in order to grow the company and leverage the hell out of their investment.

Your comparison with Hooters is interesting. Hooters sold/sells T&A. Men and women justified going there by saying how awesome the wings were. Like reading Playboy for the articles. Men and women justify the outrageous price of Yeti products by touting how long contents stay cold.[/QUOTE]


Right.

The point I am trying to make is that a brand (or a trade name) is more than what it sells or is in hand. Think Cadillac. Walmart. Martha Stewart.

Is Lincoln in the car business? Sure, but not really. If they were in the car business, they'd say more about their cars in their ads. They want to be in the suave luxury business.





Yeti knows its appeal, and also that it can't stay "a cooler company." They've been successful because they understand it's not what they sell but what (why) people buy that's important. They show signs of kicking that into even higher gear with new management and under competitive pressure.

26.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=DParker;52564]Yeti sells coolers?

[/QUOTE]



LOL...


DP gets it. :-)


:applause:

27.) DParker - 10/23/2017

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28.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

Back in the day it was Acapulco Gold and Panama Red ...

If this keeps up, Amazon Prime could become a thing.

29.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

BTW, from the picture, it looks like I have two of the more legal version of that tote at Camp Swampy.

30.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

This video goes to show several things:


1. When you buy a new boat, you need a new bucket.

2. This guy is very lucky, or Yeti surveyed Yamaha Boats about their bucket compartments.

3. The impressive qualities of a $40 plastic bucket cannot be hyped or overstated.

4. Anyone can do a review on Youtube, of anything.

31.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

Now by load out, does that mean you can do a number two in it? Maybe a lid/seat accessory that would accomodate?

32.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

Maybe when they said it was heavy duty, they meant heavy doodie.

33.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

I don't know if it's the standard lid or an option, but somebody at YETI did think to put a hole in it for an aerator hose, though why you want a hose in the lid when the lid has to come off to get bait is beyond me.

It [I]seems[/I] like a good place to run a hose but let's just say I made an aerated bait tank a few years ago and put the hose through the lid, and Gen2 has the hose running in through the side.

Also, why there's no white lid with the aerator hose opening is another mystery. It looks like the only option is clear, which does no good if you're trying to keep your bait cool, dark and calm.

YETI, if you're reading this and need more consumer feedback, cash me ousside in PMs, how bow da?

34.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

The only way a product like that gets the OK is that people that design their crap don't actually use it. Should this go in the "Pet Peeve" thread?

I mean, c'mon man.

35.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

They could come up with a koozy for normal 5-gal buckets and actually turn it into an insulated bait bucket. People love accessories that turn ordinary items into something very functional.

36.) bluecat - 10/23/2017

For example, I went into a hardware store here and bought a lid that goes on a 5-gal bucket. That lid has two parts. The first part is inserted on the outside edge of normal 5-gal bucket. The second is a top that screws into the first part. So now I have food storage that completely seals and is easily removed. Brilliant idea. We keep rice and other items bulk items in these in the basement. Bucket was a pickle bucket and given to me free. The lid was a small amount.

37.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;52587]They could come up with a koozy for normal 5-gal buckets and actually turn it into an insulated bait bucket. People love accessories that turn ordinary items into something very functional.[/QUOTE]

Oh, yeah ... I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't done that already. If you know how expensive bait tanks are (once you get beyond minnow buckets) you know why people spend so much effort trying to build their own.

There are some brilliant ones out there but they're a lot of work. I'm more on the "Let's drill some holes in a cooler and run a bubbler in there and just forget about the circulating water thing" end of things. I don't have a huge need for live bait most of the time, LOL. But another go at the prize was the first thing I thought of when I heard about these buckets.

Yeti is all over the store-bought accessories thing. They have a skirt for tools and tackle and what have you, and a tray insert with a retractable handle that can go under the lid and still leave most of the bucket available for live or napping shad, or ice tea, or mac n cheese and fried chicken. I think a fully loaded Yeti bucket goes for something like $120 ... LOL

38.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=bluecat;52589]


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Those are great. I use them at camp and at home all the time. If you let them get rained on, though, they will leak. It's kind of a mystery as to how, but trust me. The ones I keep outside are under a cover, or stored in a plastic tote with lid.

39.) DParker - 10/23/2017

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52585]It looks like the only option is clear, which does no good if you're trying to keep your bait cool, dark and calm.[/QUOTE]

I thought you liked your bait like you like your women? Hot, bright and agitated? (No, I didn't go there.)

40.) Swamp Fox - 10/23/2017

LMAO ... :applause:

+5

If I ever feel the need for a signature line, we have the makings of something right there ...LOL

41.) bluecat - 10/24/2017

Large pectoral fins?

42.) Swamp Fox - 10/24/2017

Huge ... volumes of water!