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1.) JGB Ohio - 10/16/2017
Hey, you guys just curious if anyone else has been using those evercalm deodorant sticks? I bought one over the weekend. I think they work great as I had 6 does and a 3.5-year-old buck just down wind and never got busted, but I do have one serious complaint. Last night after I went to bed I woke up with a severe rash and blisters under my arms where I applied the Evercalm. Has anyone else had this problem?!?!?!
2.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
:-) ...
3.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
I think CrookedEye uses that product. He might not be in for awhile while he licks his wounds from the Ohio State loss. But I'm sure he'd like to tell you his experiences...
4.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
What's the active ingredient in the deodorant? Triclosan is an antibacterial that can have some allergic reactions.
5.) Jon - 10/16/2017
HAHAHAHAHA, I'm dying.
God, I hope he has a good sense of humor and this is a joke
6.) JGB Ohio - 10/16/2017
It still burns this morning. [ATTACH]569[/ATTACH]
7.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
I don't think you are supposed to apply it to your skin. I think it is something you put on a tree or your boots. I just looked up the product.
8.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
I didn't see anything about application on the package so I can see where it would be confusing. But there was a picture of someone applying it to a branch.

[url]http://pushingthewildlimits.com/ever-calm-deer-herd-scent-review/[/url]
9.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=JGB Ohio;52412]It still burns this morning. [ATTACH]569[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]

You have to smell horrible.
10.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
You're lucky you can still get it for 300.00. Look around though, prices may vary...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Conquest-Scents-EverCalm-Deer-Herd-Scent-Stick-/112160662010[/url]
11.) Jon - 10/16/2017
UMM, Evercalm isn't a deodorant.
It's used to apply to branches and rocks etc.
You DON'T apply it to your skin.

THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE
12.) DParker - 10/16/2017
So you're saying that I shouldn't be gargling Dead Downwind spray to cover my morning breath?
13.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
You can but you may end up, um, dead downwind.
14.) JGB Ohio - 10/16/2017
So glad to see all of the participation this morning. Trophies for everyone! So how many humor points did I just earn? :grin:
15.) Jon - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=JGB Ohio;52420]So glad to see all of the participation this morning. Trophies for everyone! So how many humor points did I just earn? :grin:[/QUOTE]

Since people do this dumb stuff, I was hoping you weren't that dumb BUT since nobody no's all this stuff anyway........
16.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
I gotta say though, looking at the product and reading the description, I never saw where it said not to apply to skin. Certainly that is written somewhere on the packaging. I bet there are people that have done that.
17.) JGB Ohio - 10/16/2017
:wink
18.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
I was thinking about the same product warning labels. I had some Evercalm a few years ago. Don't remember if there was a warning, LOL.

One of the funnier things is when you get the impresssion that a drug they're advertising on TV is worse than the problem it's supposed to allieviate. I swear there are a couple whose product warning goes on longer than the blurb about the benefits. You go in to the doctor for restless leg and come back for a brain aneurysm.

I could go on a rant about warnings for products, services or advice (even non-professional). Ever seen how some people fall all over themselves on-line when the topic is something with the least amount of danger involved? Firearms, climbing trees, tying a knot, blah blah blah. I guess a lot of people grew up wearing helmets to ride their bikes on the sidewalk down to the end of the block in their subdivisions (gated?) where they had speed bumps on the roads, LOL.

But like I say, pioneer spirit is over-rated.
19.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
Other products that are problematic:


James Valley Estrus Doe Eye Cream

DAP toothpaste in the large tubes

Loctite eyedrops

Buck Jam Fruit Preserves

Ozonics Feminine Hygiene Machine
20.) DParker - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52424]You go in to the doctor for restless leg and come back for a brain aneurysm.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but your leg is just [I]fine[/I].
21.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=DParker;52418]So you're saying that I shouldn't be gargling Dead Downwind spray to cover my morning breath?[/QUOTE]


Scent Killer: Excellent antidote for Morning Pee, or as an asparagus chaser.
22.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
These are still under evaluation

Preparation H hunters hand creme
Fleet Ready to Eat Meals
Viagra breath mints
23.) DParker - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52427]Scent Killer: Excellent antidote for Morning Pee, or as an asparagus chaser.[/QUOTE]

Well, since I have that gene (or lack it...I can never keep that one straight) now I'm starting to wonder if a little asparagus snack while on the road, followed by some relief on stand might actually serve as an attractant.

On the other hand...didn't someone recently conclude that the DNA in question actually just gave you the olfactory ability to detect it, rather than producing it?
24.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
I didn't know there was a genetic component at all. I thought it was a function of diet.

I don't have a good sense of smell, though. (Probably works out for the best.) That's all I'm gonna say about that. Mark your calendars if I eat asparagus more than twice a year.

So this don't befront me, as George Thorogood would say.
25.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
The Destroyers and Elvin Bishop in New Jersey ... LOL



26.) DParker - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52432]I didn't know there was a genetic component at all. I thought it was a function of diet.[/QUOTE]

[URL="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genes-for-smelling-asparagus-metabolites-determine-urine-luck/"]Scientific American: Genes for Smelling Asparagus Metabolites Determine Urine Luck[/URL]
27.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
LOL ... That's way too much science for me. I'll read it more thoroughly right after I finish [I]A Modest Proposal.[/I]
28.) DParker - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52436]LOL ... That's way too much science for me. I'll read it more thoroughly right after I finish [I]A Modest Proposal.[/I][/QUOTE]

TL;DR version: "Asparagus pee for me, but maybe not for thee."
29.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
:-) :tu:

Believe it or not, I did read the whole thing. At least three times.

But at the end of the day (Thank God!), I still couldn't distinguish it from creative writing. That could be completely my fault, LOL.

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.


:beer:
30.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
[SIZE=3][B]ArcheryTalk Threads:[/B] [/SIZE]

[B]Pee From The Stand Or Bring A Bottle? --Poll


[SIZE=2]You Might Also Be Interested In: [/SIZE]

(Related Threads)

How Do You Pack Your Pee Bottle With Lone Wolf Sticks?

Best Pee Bottles For Under $50?

What If You Dip And Also Need To Pee?

Number Two Burial Strategies--- Cat Holes of the Pros[/B]
31.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
I bet Luv2 is all over those...you know, archery discussion and all.



Best Pee bottle under 50$? LOL!
32.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
....
33.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
"Viagra breath mint, sir?"
34.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
+3 You earned it.
35.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
I don't know ... I feel like I should get a +4 at a minimum. I've slaved over a hot stove all day. JGB should get at least a +3.

It's not easy getting an HC thread to four pages.
36.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52425]Other products that are problematic:


James Valley Estrus Doe Eye Cream

DAP toothpaste in the large tubes

Loctite eyedrops

Buck Jam Fruit Preserves

Ozonics Feminine Hygiene Machine[/QUOTE]

I'll do 5. Those were hilarious.
37.) bluecat - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=bluecat;52440]I bet Luv2 is all over those...you know, archery discussion and all.



Best Pee bottle under 50$? LOL![/QUOTE]

Let's throw caution to the wind for a second. What's a really really good pee bottle cost?
38.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2017
[QUOTE=bluecat;52445]I'll do 5. Those were hilarious.[/QUOTE]

I feel honored, and almost humbled. Thank you.


[QUOTE=bluecat;52446]Let's throw caution to the wind for a second. What's a really really good pee bottle cost?[/QUOTE]

I know some people won't believe me, but there were roll-up pee bottles being sold a while back for around $30 if I'm not mistaken.

If I hadn't already budgeted $40 for a bee smoker, I would have gone for it.
39.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
I love my bee smoker so there.

Now let's talk crunchers...
40.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
Btw, my order arrived from REI and I like those rings. I ordered a roll of webbing too. Those rings are always on the harness now for whenever I need them.
41.) Jon - 10/17/2017
Speaking of peeing out of the stand.......that velvet buck came right to my pee. I realized that I had to go and tried to think how long I should hold it since I didn't have an empty water bottle. The more I thought about it, the worse I had to pee. Yep, peed right off the stand and much to my surprise, the buck came right to it, sniffed it, got alerted and looked spooky then calmed down but was very alert. His head was on a swivel looking all around.
After several minutes, he decided enough was enough and leaped out of there, right into my arrow. Pee works!
42.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
Good story. How long had the pee been on the ground before he came in?

I killed one of my better bucks with a rifle at 15 or 20 yards after peeing off the stand, but I also had some scent out on a wick. I think it was probably Scrape Juice. If he smelled my pee, he smelled the wick.

Anyway, i had the zipper down and the rifle slung on my shoulder, taking care of business to the rear of my stand, when I heard him running through the pine straw. I gave a shake or two, stowed my gear, turned and unslung my rifle. He stopped abruptly right in a good shooting lane (I think he got a whiff of something) and I snap-shot him perfectly broadside. It took all of four or five seconds, from when I first heard him to the sound of the shot. Any faster than that and I would have had to do laundry.
43.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52447]I feel honored, and almost humbled. Thank you.




I know some people won't believe me, but there were roll-up pee bottles being sold a while back for around $30 if I'm not mistaken.

If I hadn't already budgeted $40 for a bee smoker, I would have gone for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bluecat;52448]I love my bee smoker so there.

Now let's talk crunchers...[/QUOTE]


I like a bee smoker, too ... :beer: ... I was commenting on what some people charge for them. You can get a small one for around $12, but I know people who've paid a lot more for some reason. One of the feed and seed stores I go to occasionally started carrying bee supplies earlier this year. I was in there a couple of weeks ago. They have small smokers for $34 (equivalent to the $12 models) and I think they're asking $38 or 40 for the large ones. It's weird, because it's not an uptown feed store, LOL.
44.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
Can you post pics or describe how you rigged the webbing on your harness in the other thread? If I remember correctly, the harness you got didn't have any loops to use as guides or retainers? Did you sew "belt loops" or something?

That's my gameplan with my loopless harness whenever I get around to it, but it's not a priority so it could be a while, LOL.
45.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52447]I feel honored, and almost humbled. Thank you.




I know some people won't believe me, but there were roll-up pee bottles being sold a while back for around $30 if I'm not mistaken.

If I hadn't already budgeted $40 for a bee smoker, I would have gone for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bluecat;52449]Btw, my order arrived from REI and I like those rings. I ordered a roll of webbing too. Those rings are always on the harness now for whenever I need them.[/QUOTE]


Can you post pics or describe how you rigged the webbing on your harness in the other thread? If I remember correctly, the harness you got didn't have any loops to use as guides or retainers? Did you sew "belt loops" or something?

That's my gameplan with my loopless harness whenever I get around to it, but it's not a priority so it could be a while, LOL.
46.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52455]Can you post pics or describe how you rigged the webbing on your harness in the other thread? If I remember correctly, the harness you got didn't have any loops to use as guides or retainers? Did you sew "belt loops" or something?

That's my gameplan with my loopless harness whenever I get around to it, but it's not a priority so it could be a while, LOL.[/QUOTE]

You are very observant. + 3 Correct, the harness I purchased didn't have the belt loops that were illustrated in the video. So it took me awhile to figure out what method was going to be best. I came up with a solution that I later ditched but I'll at least give you the thought process. I tied in the rings as per video and then wove the webbing (over, under) around the waist band. The back of the waist band did have a loop so that was helpful. Then I tied the two ends together using the water knot (easy to tie and secure). The problem was this. I couldn't get the harness on and off with the webbing tied together. If I left the webbing looser then it would not be as snug as I need it for attaching to tree.

So, what I did was make a loop with the webbing and had the ring tied to it. Did this for each ring. Then slipped the loop over the waistband on each side. Perfect.

I will send a picture of what I did. I now have a harness that I can loosen or tighten to get on and the rings are at the ready whenever I need or want them. I'll post in the other thread when I get the pic.
47.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
The bee smokers are nice and mobile but I grill over open fire frequently and it is sure easy to situate my hunting clothes so they are getting the smoke. The smoke lasts a long time so it is not necessary to do this every time I hunt.
48.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
You have that covered space for smoking, so you have that going for you, which is nice. :wink

I got away from a fairly high amount of camping for hunting for a while, so I also got away from smoking gear. Looks like I might be circling back on the old path in the future. Now if I could just figure out how to keep an ant army from using my clothesline at home, without removing it from the tree it's attached to, that would be great.
49.) Jon - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52452]Good story. How long had the pee been on the ground before he came in?

I killed one of my better bucks with a rifle at 15 or 20 yards after peeing off the stand, but I also had some scent out on a wick. I think it was probably Scrape Juice. If he smelled my pee, he smelled the wick.

Anyway, i had the zipper down and the rifle slung on my shoulder, taking care of business to the rear of my stand, when I heard him running through the pine straw. I gave a shake or two, stowed my gear, turned and unslung my rifle. He stopped abruptly right in a good shooting lane (I think he got a whiff of something) and I snap-shot him perfectly broadside. It took all of four or five seconds, from when I first heard him to the sound of the shot. Any faster than that and I would have had to do laundry.[/QUOTE]


He probably came in less than 15 minutes after I peed. I would have shot him sooner BUT he came straight in and stopped right next to, almost under my stand and was absolutely smelling the pee, he had his nose right on it. I'm not saying he was attracted BY the pee, I have no idea why he came straight in. I am saying that once he got close, he did stop and smell it.
50.) DParker - 10/17/2017
I believe this thread now holds the record for the most uses of the word "pee".
51.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
52.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=DParker;52461]I believe this thread now holds the record for the most uses of the word "pee".[/QUOTE]

Jim Croce and The Police are glad they went with their second choices.
53.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
....
54.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
This article is fairly interesting. Read the whole thing if you have time.

[QUOTE]Few studies have been done on the effects of human urine on whitetails. Several years ago, Kroll and then-graduate student Ben Koerth used trail cameras to monitor mock scrapes treated with commercial buck urine, doe-in-heat urine, human urine and new car smell (which they got from a car wash). The researchers ran each test site for two weeks, 24 hours a day. They carefully recorded how many deer came to each site, and how many times. They also noted the type of deer visiting each site (buck, doe, fawn) and estimated its age.

To say the least, what they found was underwhelming.

“Deer of all ages and sexes came to every one of the treatment sites,” explained Kroll. “We found no statistical difference in the number of deer, or type of deer, that came to any one of the treatments. The average number of times a particular deer came to a treatment site was once, and over 90 percent of all visitations were nocturnal.”

Kroll and Koerth concluded that, when it comes to pee, a deer’s natural curiosity explains its behavior. “For their survival, it’s necessary for deer to be curious and know everything that’s going in their home range,” Kroll said.

What’s interesting is that, although not statistically relevant, both the buck urine and human urine outperformed doe-in-estrus.

[url]https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/big-game-hunting/whitetail-deer/does-human-urine-scare-deer/[/url]
[/QUOTE]
55.) bluecat - 10/17/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52463]Jim Croce and The Police are glad they went with their second choices.[/QUOTE]

I know it's Prolly good, just not making the connection right now.:cf:
56.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2017
Let's see if anyone in the audience can answer ...

If not within a reasonable time, I will step up. :pop:

It might be like James Comey and Loretta Lynch: I might have a lot of 'splainin' to do ... But I hope not. :tap:
57.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2017
Hint: Look at their discographies ... :pop:
58.) DParker - 10/18/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52463]Jim Croce and The Police are glad they went with their second choices.[/QUOTE]

[I]Time In A Bottle [/I]

[I]Message In A Bottle [/I]
59.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
:tu: :applause:
60.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2017
Good to know:

(Don't miss the Q&A, Tips and Warnings sections at the end.)


[url]https://www.wikihow.com/Pee-in-a-Bottle[/url]
61.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
Lots of useful information there. Would never have thought to use a bottle large enough to contain [B]all[/B] my pee.
62.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2017
Seventy-one people worked on that article, so you know it's good.

I liked the graphics, and how they broke it down into steps so you don't get confused.
63.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
Right, you shouldn't pee in the bottle before you've actually chosen the correct bottle.


The advice to not put your crank [B]in[/B] the bottle was [COLOR="#FFD700"]gold[/COLOR].
64.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2017
LOL ...

+2

So much good stuff there, I don't think I can choose a Number One.
65.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
+2 for mentioning Number One
66.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;52473]Seventy-one people worked on that article, so you know it's good.

I liked the graphics, and how they broke it down into steps so you don't get confused.[/QUOTE]

I agree, pictures are so much more helpful. It's like trying to learn how to tie a knot from a description. "Tuck end loop under itself and exit over standing bite. Twist once and draw tight."

I actually need to see how the bottle is positioned and maybe a diagram of the crank. Then it all comes together.
67.) DParker - 10/18/2017
[QUOTE=bluecat;52477]I actually need to see how the bottle is positioned and maybe a diagram of the crank. Then it all comes together.[/QUOTE]

You should do a Google search for that. And don't worry about having your browser's pop-up blocker active. What's the worst that could happen?
68.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2017
LOL ...


You start getting a lot more interesting email?
69.) bluecat - 10/18/2017
Yes, there's a couple of knuckleheads that keep posting stuff...