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1.) bluecat - 10/11/2016
From their website
I wanted to give this hoist a formal review after last year's debacle. I wanted to see it through.
So last year I shot a deer and packed the Viking hoist out to the kill. The area where I was hunting had really large trees and the chain provided did not fit around them. So I had to drag the animal to a smaller tree which I didn't appreciate. The chain provided would work probably 75% of the time. But not that time. So I got the hoist situated without any problem. Very easy to set up. Nice design and sturdy. I hook the gambrel on to the deer and begin to hoist. It cranked up a few feet and then the cranking got really hard. Didn't know this but the cable had gotten off the pulley and was wedged between the pulley and the axel. It was late at night and a fix wasn't in the cards. I had to deal with it. When I attempted to unwedge the cable I cut myself on the exposed cable. There were little shards of metal wire that had come unbraided. Nice. Late at night, winch toasted, hand bleeding. Thanks for the memories.
So after that, I replaced the chain with a longer one. Purchased a plastic coated cable and replaced the one on the Viking. Now my options for cables were limited to the size of the pulley that comes on the Viking. Anything larger than what was provided would rub on the metal above the pulley and come off the narrow pulley track.
Forward to last Saturday night. Packed the Viking out again knowing this would be the last time I would do that. Not because it isn't a good solution but because it is too heavy to be packing in and out of an area. Found a tree easily enough, hooked up and made sure I kept tension on the cable as I winched it up. Worked perfectly.
It is a great solution for someone that needs to hoist a deer that resides in the same location as the hoist - pickup truck, home etc. Glad I have one as it will be useful in most situations. I have to bring home the deer fully quartered which means I need to be a traveling butcher station.
At some point, sooner than later, I will find a bigger pulley and have someone weld it up - one that has a deep groove and can accomodate a rope or something that isn't metal.
For future reviews, I will be reviewing a pulley system that is light-weight and easy to pack.
Note, I did write the company and explained the situation and a suggestion for product design but they never responded. That was the biggest disappointment of all.
2.) Swamp Fox - 10/11/2016
Looking forward to seeing what you cooked up for a pulley system.
I might have mentioned this alternative to you:
[url]http://www.gatorhanger.com/Site/Home.html[/url]
It's probably lighter and more portable than the Viking, although I didn't check that before posting this. I've had them on my wish list for a few years but have never gotten around to ordering any. Maybe this is the kick in the ass that I need. I have several places with no overhanging limbs but a need to quarter animals before packing out. Though my mind is young, my back and knees have taken early retirement from dressing animals on the ground. Did I mention that my mind is still young, though? I don't remember.
I might have mentioned this alternative to you:
[url]http://www.gatorhanger.com/Site/Home.html[/url]
It's probably lighter and more portable than the Viking, although I didn't check that before posting this. I've had them on my wish list for a few years but have never gotten around to ordering any. Maybe this is the kick in the ass that I need. I have several places with no overhanging limbs but a need to quarter animals before packing out. Though my mind is young, my back and knees have taken early retirement from dressing animals on the ground. Did I mention that my mind is still young, though? I don't remember.
3.) DParker - 10/11/2016
Excellent review. I'm glad you got it working, but it's a shame the manufacturer didn't have the courtesy to at least shoot back a brief "Thanks for the suggestion" in response to your idea.
Ever since I bought my truck I've been thinking about getting one of the hitch-mounted hoists (which I'll pull the trigger on if I ever kill another deer/hog). Not only would it make it easier to get a deer/hog up and into the bed of the truck by myself, I'd use it to skin and butcher the carcass at home.
Ever since I bought my truck I've been thinking about getting one of the hitch-mounted hoists (which I'll pull the trigger on if I ever kill another deer/hog). Not only would it make it easier to get a deer/hog up and into the bed of the truck by myself, I'd use it to skin and butcher the carcass at home.
4.) bluecat - 10/11/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44658]Looking forward to seeing what you cooked up for a pulley system.
I might have mentioned this alternative to you:
[url]http://www.gatorhanger.com/Site/Home.html[/url]
It's probably lighter and more portable than the Viking, although I didn't check that before posting this. I've had them on my wish list for a few years but have never gotten around to ordering any. Maybe this is the kick in the ass that I need. I have several places with no overhanging limbs but a need to quarter animals before packing out. Though my mind is young, my back and knees have taken early retirement from dressing deer on the ground. Did I mention that my mind is still young, though? I don't remember.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you showed me that and it is a nice design too. The biggest part of the whole equation is getting the hanger high enough without help from a step or ladder etc. The thing that the Viking has going for it is you can do all the setup from the ground. Just wish the pulley was beefier and allowed me to use some nice braided rope.
I know someone that welds though...
I might have mentioned this alternative to you:
[url]http://www.gatorhanger.com/Site/Home.html[/url]
It's probably lighter and more portable than the Viking, although I didn't check that before posting this. I've had them on my wish list for a few years but have never gotten around to ordering any. Maybe this is the kick in the ass that I need. I have several places with no overhanging limbs but a need to quarter animals before packing out. Though my mind is young, my back and knees have taken early retirement from dressing deer on the ground. Did I mention that my mind is still young, though? I don't remember.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you showed me that and it is a nice design too. The biggest part of the whole equation is getting the hanger high enough without help from a step or ladder etc. The thing that the Viking has going for it is you can do all the setup from the ground. Just wish the pulley was beefier and allowed me to use some nice braided rope.
I know someone that welds though...
5.) bluecat - 10/11/2016
Didn't post this originally as the photo isn't too good, but here it is in action. When you hoist a deer you want the nose touching the ground, otherwise it just spins around a lot when you are trying to work. This was hoisted too high but shows it works well. Just keep your eye on the pulley as you winch to make sure the cable is centered.
6.) bluecat - 10/11/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44658]Looking forward to seeing what you cooked up for a pulley system.
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Stay tuned.
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Stay tuned.
7.) Swamp Fox - 10/11/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44669]Yes, you showed me that and it is a nice design too. The biggest part of the whole equation is getting the hanger high enough without help from a step or ladder etc. The thing that the Viking has going for it is you can do all the setup from the ground. Just wish the pulley was beefier and allowed me to use some nice braided rope.
I know someone that welds though...[/QUOTE]
My kit includes four folding tree steps for climbing trees to attach eye-bolts and gambrels and such, so I'm already used to climbing up a tree to set up for game care. The Gator therefore presents no real inconvenience for me.
The thing I liked about the Viking originally was that long out-arm, which is better-done than any of the other goofy systems I've seen (manufactured and homemade) to get the carcass away from the tree. With the Gator, I got around to the point of deciding that the lack of such is not going to be a deal-killer. It's possible that contact with the tree to prevent the carcass from spinning could be considered a feature, not a bug.
I know someone that welds though...[/QUOTE]
My kit includes four folding tree steps for climbing trees to attach eye-bolts and gambrels and such, so I'm already used to climbing up a tree to set up for game care. The Gator therefore presents no real inconvenience for me.
The thing I liked about the Viking originally was that long out-arm, which is better-done than any of the other goofy systems I've seen (manufactured and homemade) to get the carcass away from the tree. With the Gator, I got around to the point of deciding that the lack of such is not going to be a deal-killer. It's possible that contact with the tree to prevent the carcass from spinning could be considered a feature, not a bug.
8.) DParker - 10/11/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44670]When you hoist a deer you want the nose touching the ground, otherwise it just spins around a lot when you are trying to work.[/QUOTE]
I've only used a hoist once to dress a deer (all others have been done on the ground), and even then I thought it would make more sense to hang the carcass from the front legs instead of the rear ones so as to facilitate everything falling out easier...especially the lungs after you sever the esophagus...rather than having to pull things up and out of what remains of the front of the chest cavity.
Then again, maybe that only made sense to me because I've never actually tried it.
I've only used a hoist once to dress a deer (all others have been done on the ground), and even then I thought it would make more sense to hang the carcass from the front legs instead of the rear ones so as to facilitate everything falling out easier...especially the lungs after you sever the esophagus...rather than having to pull things up and out of what remains of the front of the chest cavity.
Then again, maybe that only made sense to me because I've never actually tried it.
9.) Swamp Fox - 10/11/2016
I've done it both ways and have a preference for head-down, but I'm not fanatical about it. Even if you don't split the chest, you can get everything to fall out/pulled out with only minor fuss. The exciting part of head-down and chest unsplit is fishing around down there when you know there's a broadhead still in there somewhere.
I have on occasion dropped the innards from a head-up position and then repositioned the deer head-down for skinning, but there is little practical point in doing that unless you're putting it in a cooler for storage or aging in-between.
I have on occasion dropped the innards from a head-up position and then repositioned the deer head-down for skinning, but there is little practical point in doing that unless you're putting it in a cooler for storage or aging in-between.
10.) Jon - 10/11/2016
Bluecat, dumb question but I've always wanted to know but never asked......
do you gut the deer on the ground and then hang it to skin or do you do everything with this hoist?
do you gut the deer on the ground and then hang it to skin or do you do everything with this hoist?
11.) bluecat - 10/11/2016
Not a dumb question at all. I gutted it on the ground and then hoisted to skin and quarter. In the past I've used the winch to do it. It works really well by keeping legs apart and letting gravity work for you. But DP is right, you still have to get the guts out of the stomach area. You could lower animal after gutting to spill out the guts and then winch up again. I might try that with my pulley rig.
12.) Swamp Fox - 10/11/2016
I'm always interested in how different people process game. Unless I'm misunderstanding the concern, you shouldn't have a problem spilling the innards whether dressing head-up or head-down. No need to lower and then raise the hoist (unless you mean that the chest is too high for you to reach in and get the windpipe at its longest). If you're going to split breast or H bone, which I don't usually bother with, there's even less need. But it all pulls out/falls out without intact skeleton much in the way.
Thinking about it, the only time I can remember seeing dressing done head-up around here was when I went to visit a hog outfitter for a project I was working on, specifically related to dressing and butchering. He zipped everything open and-- wa-la!--everything was in the bucket neat as you please with no fishing around in deep cavities, but I don't remember what went on as far as the bung hole and pulling stuff out from behind the pelvis. I'm pretty sure we split the breast bone but didn't split the H bone, but maybe I've forgotten. I guess it would be nice if my memory were better, since it's failing on the important parts, LOL.
For this application, head-up was quick and allowed a hero photo (in the cleaning shed! :ek:) without having to reposition the hog. I have a feeling that the picture-taking was the most important part of the decision for head-up, but who knows. People tend to take care of game the way they were originally taught, or according to what's common in the area.
I was not able to stick around for any skinning, so it's also possible that the outfitter liked to skin from the shoulder as well.
Thinking about it, the only time I can remember seeing dressing done head-up around here was when I went to visit a hog outfitter for a project I was working on, specifically related to dressing and butchering. He zipped everything open and-- wa-la!--everything was in the bucket neat as you please with no fishing around in deep cavities, but I don't remember what went on as far as the bung hole and pulling stuff out from behind the pelvis. I'm pretty sure we split the breast bone but didn't split the H bone, but maybe I've forgotten. I guess it would be nice if my memory were better, since it's failing on the important parts, LOL.
For this application, head-up was quick and allowed a hero photo (in the cleaning shed! :ek:) without having to reposition the hog. I have a feeling that the picture-taking was the most important part of the decision for head-up, but who knows. People tend to take care of game the way they were originally taught, or according to what's common in the area.
I was not able to stick around for any skinning, so it's also possible that the outfitter liked to skin from the shoulder as well.
13.) Jon - 10/12/2016
I'm also amazed at the million different ways people dress out their deer. I asked about gutting because my concern with gutting while having the deer elevated the way you show your deer is that bowel and fecal matter will get into the body cavity that way. I have always gutted on the ground and then hung head up (if I'm away from home and have to wait to butcher) so anything that may have gotten onto the meat can be hosed out and will have less chance to taint much meat.
I've seen guys hosing their deer out on the ground, pulling them into a creek, wiping them with leaves, leaving them in tact and letting the butcher handle it, having uncle bubba do it with a chainsaw etc etc.
I've seen guys hosing their deer out on the ground, pulling them into a creek, wiping them with leaves, leaving them in tact and letting the butcher handle it, having uncle bubba do it with a chainsaw etc etc.
14.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
You know at some point we're going to need to talk about this...
I always split the ribs to get to the esophagus. My arms aren't long enough to reach up there with a sharp knife, feel around and then make a right angle cut. I carry a dedicated Gerber Gator Exchange a Blade Saw with a bone blade on specifically for that purpose (in kill bag). This saves the edge on my knife and cuts through easily (breast bone, not esophagus/trachea). I never cut through the pelvis. No need.
The Butt Out is easily the joke of butchering but the fact is, it really works well. It takes all of 10 seconds to pull out the colon. I carry cotton string (in kill bag), tie it off and I'm done.
15.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
I might have posted this before but I really like the way this guy does it.
16.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44713]
You know at some point we're going to need to talk about this...
I always split the ribs to get to the esophagus. My arms aren't long enough to reach up there with a sharp knife, feel around and then make a right angle cut. I carry a dedicated Gerber Gator Exchange a Blade Saw with a bone blade on specifically for that purpose (in kill bag) . This saves the edge on my knife and cuts through easily (breast bone, not esophagus/trachea). I never cut through the pelvis. No need.
The Butt Out is easily the joke of butchering but the fact is, it really works well. It takes all of 10 seconds to pull out the colon. I carry cotton string (in kill bag), tie it off and I'm done.[/QUOTE]
Here is a handy method that doesn't use the butt-out. Make a little tab. Make sure you have a knife that will work. One of the reasons why I like drop-point knives.
You know at some point we're going to need to talk about this...
I always split the ribs to get to the esophagus. My arms aren't long enough to reach up there with a sharp knife, feel around and then make a right angle cut. I carry a dedicated Gerber Gator Exchange a Blade Saw with a bone blade on specifically for that purpose (in kill bag) . This saves the edge on my knife and cuts through easily (breast bone, not esophagus/trachea). I never cut through the pelvis. No need.
The Butt Out is easily the joke of butchering but the fact is, it really works well. It takes all of 10 seconds to pull out the colon. I carry cotton string (in kill bag), tie it off and I'm done.[/QUOTE]
Here is a handy method that doesn't use the butt-out. Make a little tab. Make sure you have a knife that will work. One of the reasons why I like drop-point knives.
17.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
Naturally in the tab video, the camera guy lets the knife operator block the shot of the initial cut and then doesn't get down in there for anything approaching a close-up, LOL.
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later?
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
As far as bad stuff--if any-- getting in the chest cavity when dressing head-down, the way I look at it is I'd rather have it down there than running over the hams, with or without access to a hose.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later?
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
As far as bad stuff--if any-- getting in the chest cavity when dressing head-down, the way I look at it is I'd rather have it down there than running over the hams, with or without access to a hose.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.
18.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44735]Naturally in the tab video, the camera guy lets the knife operator block the shot of the initial cut and then doesn't get down in there for anything approaching a close-up, LOL.
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later?
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
As far as bad stuff--if any-- getting in the chest cavity when dressing head-down, the way I look at it is I'd rather have it down there than running over the hams, with or without access to a hose.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.[/QUOTE]
He also has someone holding a leg which doesn't sound like a big deal until you try to work the "taint" area by yourself. LOL!
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later?
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
As far as bad stuff--if any-- getting in the chest cavity when dressing head-down, the way I look at it is I'd rather have it down there than running over the hams, with or without access to a hose.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.[/QUOTE]
He also has someone holding a leg which doesn't sound like a big deal until you try to work the "taint" area by yourself. LOL!
19.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
I don't know how common these are in other parts of the country, but around here they are fairly well-utilized.
Gets your animal up off the ground for dressing and saves your back. I couldn't find a picture of the kind I'm used to, which are made of wood and a good bit beefier (I suppose because I think the idea probably originally came from hog farming, but I'm no agricultural historian, LOL), but here you go:
Gets your animal up off the ground for dressing and saves your back. I couldn't find a picture of the kind I'm used to, which are made of wood and a good bit beefier (I suppose because I think the idea probably originally came from hog farming, but I'm no agricultural historian, LOL), but here you go:
20.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44736]He also has someone holding a leg which doesn't sound like a big deal until you try to work the "taint" area by yourself. LOL![/QUOTE]
Take a length of paracord and tie the leg off to your pack, game cart, a sapling or limb, etc. When I realized how many years it took me before I came up with that idea, that's when I knew I really WAS dumber than a caveman! :wink
Take a length of paracord and tie the leg off to your pack, game cart, a sapling or limb, etc. When I realized how many years it took me before I came up with that idea, that's when I knew I really WAS dumber than a caveman! :wink
21.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44735]
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later? [/QUOTE]
I do believe he is making a cut from 5 to 7 but it is wider than the tab so the tab isn't cut off.
If somebody knows how he's doing that and then proceeds to core out the colon without ruining his tab, let me know. Is he coring from 5 o'clock to 7, leaving his tab unsliced so he can pull on it to the outside? That would be my guess. Then he slices it fully through so it can be pulled through from the inside later? [/QUOTE]
I do believe he is making a cut from 5 to 7 but it is wider than the tab so the tab isn't cut off.
22.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44735]I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.[/QUOTE]
I split both because it makes access to everything simpler, and both are so easy to do I can't think of a reason not to split them. Opening the chest is easy because my knife is not only kept scary sharp, its beefy 4.25" blade makes cutting through the cartilage on either side of the sternum a breeze. And even if it didn't, I keep one of the multi-blade Gerber saws in my pack that works well for that purpose too.
I've been able to split the pelvis by getting the tip of that same stout blade worked at least partway into the joint between the two halves of the bone and weakening it...at which point I just step on both legs and snap the pelvis in half. The knife might not work well on larger, older deer than the ones I've killed, in which case I'd just make a few passes with the saw instead.
I split both because it makes access to everything simpler, and both are so easy to do I can't think of a reason not to split them. Opening the chest is easy because my knife is not only kept scary sharp, its beefy 4.25" blade makes cutting through the cartilage on either side of the sternum a breeze. And even if it didn't, I keep one of the multi-blade Gerber saws in my pack that works well for that purpose too.
I've been able to split the pelvis by getting the tip of that same stout blade worked at least partway into the joint between the two halves of the bone and weakening it...at which point I just step on both legs and snap the pelvis in half. The knife might not work well on larger, older deer than the ones I've killed, in which case I'd just make a few passes with the saw instead.
23.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
Bluecat---
Okay, that makes some sense, but I think I'll have to get a deer butt in front of me to get the full gist.
(Never thought I'd say that.)
I don't know if the latest butt-outs have changed from Gen 1 and Gen 2 (no self-immolating batteries, I hope) but I do know you have to read the directions and follow them, or you'll be disappointed.
First time I used a butt-out (Gen 1) I was amazed and thought it was the best thing since clean water on a cavewoman, but then I got all cocky and started doing it my way instead of the way the guy who invented it tells you to, and I learned my lesson.
Okay, that makes some sense, but I think I'll have to get a deer butt in front of me to get the full gist.
(Never thought I'd say that.)
I don't know if the latest butt-outs have changed from Gen 1 and Gen 2 (no self-immolating batteries, I hope) but I do know you have to read the directions and follow them, or you'll be disappointed.
First time I used a butt-out (Gen 1) I was amazed and thought it was the best thing since clean water on a cavewoman, but then I got all cocky and started doing it my way instead of the way the guy who invented it tells you to, and I learned my lesson.
24.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44741]Okay, that makes some sense, but I think I'll have to get a deer butt in front of me to get the full gist.[/QUOTE]
It gets pretty lonely sometimes out in the Carolina woods, doesn't it?
It gets pretty lonely sometimes out in the Carolina woods, doesn't it?
25.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
LOL...
Today in the cafeteria we're serving meatballs...:grin:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's not right...:p
Today in the cafeteria we're serving meatballs...:grin:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's not right...:p
26.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=DParker;44743]It gets pretty lonely sometimes out in the Carolina woods, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
That post has moved into the top ten of all time position.
That post has moved into the top ten of all time position.
27.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
THIS TRIPOD I BOUGHT THIS YEAR AND FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO GIVE IT A TRY. I LEAVE IT AT CAMP, IT DONT TAKE ME LONG TO GET BACK AFTER RECOVERING.
I GUT ON THE GROUND, GOLF BALL TECHNIQUE SKIN BETWEEN POLARIS AND TREE OR TRUCK ETC... THEN HANG FOR MEAT DISMANTLE. I USE TREE LOPPERS TO CROP THE LOWER LEGS. ALL TOGETHER... ABOUT 45 MINS WHILE DRINKING BEER.
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I GUT ON THE GROUND, GOLF BALL TECHNIQUE SKIN BETWEEN POLARIS AND TREE OR TRUCK ETC... THEN HANG FOR MEAT DISMANTLE. I USE TREE LOPPERS TO CROP THE LOWER LEGS. ALL TOGETHER... ABOUT 45 MINS WHILE DRINKING BEER.
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[/URL]28.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44741]Bluecat---
Okay, that makes some sense, but I think I'll have to get a deer butt in front of me to get the full gist.
(Never thought I'd say that.)
I don't know if the latest butt-outs have changed from Gen 1 and Gen 2 (no self-immolating batteries, I hope) but I do know you have to read the directions and follow them, or you'll be disappointed.
First time I used a butt-out (Gen 1) I was amazed and thought it was the best thing since clean water on a cavewoman, but then I got all cocky and started doing it my way instead of the way the guy who invented it tells you to, and I learned my lesson.[/QUOTE]
I don't quite understand the consternation. Insert, twist slowly as you remove.
The slight twist just helps to grab the membrane.
Okay, that makes some sense, but I think I'll have to get a deer butt in front of me to get the full gist.
(Never thought I'd say that.)
I don't know if the latest butt-outs have changed from Gen 1 and Gen 2 (no self-immolating batteries, I hope) but I do know you have to read the directions and follow them, or you'll be disappointed.
First time I used a butt-out (Gen 1) I was amazed and thought it was the best thing since clean water on a cavewoman, but then I got all cocky and started doing it my way instead of the way the guy who invented it tells you to, and I learned my lesson.[/QUOTE]
I don't quite understand the consternation. Insert, twist slowly as you remove.
The slight twist just helps to grab the membrane.
29.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
It's a matter of twisting too far. I don't even remember what the instructions are, but say they tell you to insert and then do one full turn. In my experience, if you do a 1 & 1/2 turn you rip stuff and can't get a good pull. So follow the instructions! LOL
30.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
I don't even do a quarter turn. You can feel it grab, that is all you need. If it were a clock (I know you like clock analogies when referring to butts), I would twist from 12:00 to 2:00.
Nothing good ever happens after 2:00. :-)
Nothing good ever happens after 2:00. :-)
31.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
BZ, those tripods are a great idea. There was somebody around here making them commercially a few years ago, but I don't know if they are any more. Nice and beefy. Not sure they had a "portable" take-down version, but I saw the semi-permanent one (one-piece legs).
Is yours pretty sturdy?
Is yours pretty sturdy?
32.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44753]I don't even do a quarter turn. You can feel it grab, that is all you need. If it were a clock (I know you like clock analogies when referring to butts), I would twist from 12:00 to 2:00.
Nothing good ever happens after 2:00. :-)[/QUOTE]
LOL
I'm starting to feel uncomfortable with all this talk about grabbing stuff...
Nothing good ever happens after 2:00. :-)[/QUOTE]
LOL
I'm starting to feel uncomfortable with all this talk about grabbing stuff...
33.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
Don't make me make a video. You know I will.
34.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
LOL...
I hope I'm doing a public service based on my experience. After several flawless performances with the Butt-Out and then screwing up once or twice, I realized what the problem was. But I keep hearing people say they can't get the Butt-Out to work, or it's too much trouble, or whatever whiny thing they have to say, and I just go back to "Follow the Instructions, Dummy!"
It just goes to show that [I][B]everything[/B][/I]---every one of our problems---comes down to Operator Error. :wink
I hope I'm doing a public service based on my experience. After several flawless performances with the Butt-Out and then screwing up once or twice, I realized what the problem was. But I keep hearing people say they can't get the Butt-Out to work, or it's too much trouble, or whatever whiny thing they have to say, and I just go back to "Follow the Instructions, Dummy!"
It just goes to show that [I][B]everything[/B][/I]---every one of our problems---comes down to Operator Error. :wink
35.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
In IT circles they call that an ID10T error. :wink
36.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44757]LOL...
But I keep hearing people say they can't get the Butt-Out to work, or it's too much trouble, or whatever whiny thing they have to say, and I just go back to "Follow the Instructions, Dummy!"
[/QUOTE]
Maybe there are just too many parts.
But I keep hearing people say they can't get the Butt-Out to work, or it's too much trouble, or whatever whiny thing they have to say, and I just go back to "Follow the Instructions, Dummy!"
[/QUOTE]
Maybe there are just too many parts.
37.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;44748]ABOUT 45 MINS WHILE DRINKING BEER.[/QUOTE]
{Insert honeymoon joke here.}
{Insert honeymoon joke here.}
38.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
Swampy: Hello, my name is SwampFox and I have failed at using the butt-out.
Audience: Hello SwampFox, we're glad you're here.
Audience: Hello SwampFox, we're glad you're here.
39.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;44748]ABOUT [B]4.5 SECS[/B] WHILE DRINKING BEER.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DParker;44761]{Insert honeymoon joke here.}[/QUOTE]
done
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DParker;44761]{Insert honeymoon joke here.}[/QUOTE]
done
40.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44762]Swampy: Hello, my name is SwampFox and I have failed at using the butt-out.
Audience: Hello SwampFox, we're glad you're here.[/QUOTE]
LOL...
My fails with the Butt-Out are not the worst I know of, let's leave it at that...:shocked::p
Audience: Hello SwampFox, we're glad you're here.[/QUOTE]
LOL...
My fails with the Butt-Out are not the worst I know of, let's leave it at that...:shocked::p
41.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44764]My fails with the Butt-Out...[/QUOTE]
{Insert.......ah...never mind}
{Insert.......ah...never mind}
42.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
LOL...
My work here is done...
:wink
My work here is done...
:wink
43.) Jon - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44735]
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.[/QUOTE]
Swampy, I don't usually skin my deer unless I'm having a shoulder mount done. I'm pretty picky now with them so it's been a while BUT......when I do skin, I have the head up and use the BULLZ-I golf ball/hockey puck method.
I split the chest with my knife, as I use a very beefy blade that is shaving sharp. I also use my knife to split the H bone, or if it is too thick, I use my portable limb saw.
Jon, do you skin head-up? If so (or if anyone else does), I'll have some follow-up questions.
I'd be interested to know how many people split either the chest or the H bone, and how many don't.[/QUOTE]
Swampy, I don't usually skin my deer unless I'm having a shoulder mount done. I'm pretty picky now with them so it's been a while BUT......when I do skin, I have the head up and use the BULLZ-I golf ball/hockey puck method.
I split the chest with my knife, as I use a very beefy blade that is shaving sharp. I also use my knife to split the H bone, or if it is too thick, I use my portable limb saw.
44.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
Are you saying you have a processor do the skinning on a meat deer? Sorry if I'm being dense or missing something obvious.
Always wondered if the golf ball method was as easy head-up as it is (should be?) head-down. I haven't tried it in forever, and that was only one time (head-down), and no one does it here, at least in my circle. But if I remember, it takes a fair amount of care with the gas pedal and/or some supplemental knifework when you're in the neck area and high on the shoulders after you hook up and start pulling?
Always wondered if the golf ball method was as easy head-up as it is (should be?) head-down. I haven't tried it in forever, and that was only one time (head-down), and no one does it here, at least in my circle. But if I remember, it takes a fair amount of care with the gas pedal and/or some supplemental knifework when you're in the neck area and high on the shoulders after you hook up and start pulling?
45.) Jon - 10/12/2016
Yes, my butcher handles the skinning and processing for $50 so why should I bother on 5+ deer a year?
I generally use a pretty strong throttle and it comes right off after making the initial cuts. I guess it depends on how much fat, how warm the carcass is etc.
I generally use a pretty strong throttle and it comes right off after making the initial cuts. I guess it depends on how much fat, how warm the carcass is etc.
46.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
:tu:
Thx.
Thx.
47.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
AFTER YOUR INITIAL CUTS AROUND THE NECK AND DOWN THE LEGS THE ONLY ISSUE (SOMETIMES IF COLDER AND CONGEALED FAT) THE FRONT ARMS TO BRISKETT AREA NEEDS TO BE SKINNED AWAY A LIL BIT.
BUT YES, THIS ONE IS A LEGS BREAK DOWN MODEL, NOT GOOD FOR PACKING IN, BUT STORAGE IS NO PROLLEM
BUT YES, THIS ONE IS A LEGS BREAK DOWN MODEL, NOT GOOD FOR PACKING IN, BUT STORAGE IS NO PROLLEM
48.) bluecat - 10/12/2016
Can you mount a backboard and breakaway rim on that thing?
49.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;44771]AFTER YOUR INITIAL CUTS AROUND THE NECK AND DOWN THE LEGS THE ONLY ISSUE (SOMETIMES IF COLDER AND CONGEALED FAT) THE FRONT ARMS TO BRISKETT AREA NEEDS TO BE SKINNED AWAY A LIL BIT.
BUT YES, THIS ONE IS A LEGS BREAK DOWN MODEL, NOT GOOD FOR PACKING IN, BUT STORAGE IS NO PROLLEM[/QUOTE]
Yours is this one, isn't it?
[URL="https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Hoist-Skinning-Tripod-Gambrel/dp/B00PTW9OT2"]Amazon: Portable Game Hoist Skinning Tripod with Gambrel[/URL]
BUT YES, THIS ONE IS A LEGS BREAK DOWN MODEL, NOT GOOD FOR PACKING IN, BUT STORAGE IS NO PROLLEM[/QUOTE]
Yours is this one, isn't it?
[URL="https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Hoist-Skinning-Tripod-Gambrel/dp/B00PTW9OT2"]Amazon: Portable Game Hoist Skinning Tripod with Gambrel[/URL]
50.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
YUP, BUT GOT IT FROM DISCOUNT RAMPS FOR 80.00 AND THEY HAVE A 10% COUPON RIGHT NOW OR EVEN LOOK ON THE INTERNET FOR COUPONS. I THINK WE GOT FREE SHIPPING OR 15% OR [B]SSLT[/B]. HAD IT IN 3 DAYS TOO.
[url]http://www.discountramps.com/kill-shot-tripod-game-hoist/p/DRC-DTP/[/url]
[url]http://www.discountramps.com/kill-shot-tripod-game-hoist/p/DRC-DTP/[/url]
51.) DParker - 10/12/2016
[QUOTE=BULLZ-i;44774]YUP, BUT GOT IT FROM DISCOUNT RAMPS FOR 80.00 AND THEY HAVE A 10% COUPON RIGHT NOW OR EVEN LOOK ON THE INTERNET FOR COUPONS. I THINK WE GOT FREE SHIPPING OR 15% OR [B]SSLT[/B]. HAD IT IN 3 DAYS TOO.
[url]http://www.discountramps.com/kill-shot-tripod-game-hoist/p/DRC-DTP/[/url][/QUOTE]
That sounded really good...until I saw...
[INDENT]"Standard Shipping: $30"[/INDENT]
Still, the promo cut $8 off the price, so the total is only $101.99.
[url]http://www.discountramps.com/kill-shot-tripod-game-hoist/p/DRC-DTP/[/url][/QUOTE]
That sounded really good...until I saw...
[INDENT]"Standard Shipping: $30"[/INDENT]
Still, the promo cut $8 off the price, so the total is only $101.99.
52.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
C'MON MONEY BAGS! PONY UP.
53.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
LOL...
What's SSLT?
What's SSLT?
54.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
SOME SHI T LIKE THAT
55.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2016
Oh, good. I like it. Ima prolly steal it for my own use, LOL.
It's a lot better than "Speedy Shipping, Low Taxes" which is the best I came up with.
It's a lot better than "Speedy Shipping, Low Taxes" which is the best I came up with.
56.) BULLZ-i - 10/12/2016
I HAVE NO CONTROL [B]SSLT[/B]... I JUST HAPPENS
57.) bluecat - 10/13/2016
[QUOTE=DParker;44775]That sounded really good...until I saw...
[INDENT]"Standard Shipping: $30"[/INDENT]
Still, the promo cut $8 off the price, so the total is only $101.99.[/QUOTE]
[INDENT]"Standard Shipping: $30"[/INDENT]
Still, the promo cut $8 off the price, so the total is only $101.99.[/QUOTE]
58.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
A little different perspective.
memo to self: Pack Sawz-All and long-ass extension cord.
59.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
That's a good find. Sawz-all definitely handy on skull plates, LOL.
I've posted this before, but it's prolly worth a second run. This is at a processor a lot of my friends use. Found it completely by accident,, which just goes to prove it's a small world.
I've posted this before, but it's prolly worth a second run. This is at a processor a lot of my friends use. Found it completely by accident,, which just goes to prove it's a small world.
60.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
Is that a pack of band-aids just out of focus?
61.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
Is that processor a drive-thru?
62.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
He used to work at Benihana but was fired because the customers complained that their meal experience was only 7 minutes long.
63.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
He twirls that knife like he's done it before, doesn't he?
You know what's doubly and triply weird? I was in Florence, SC a number of years ago buying some supplies or shooting the breeze or something at a little hunting supply/fishing tackle/taxidermist shop I stop in every once in a while, and the owner showed me a cleaning and skinning video that I had just seen on my own a week or two earlier. "World's fastest deer skinning" or some such in the title. It's up toward the top there at youtube. Anyway, until David pointed it out, I had no idea it's at a place I drive past every so often, but which is a little out of my way. However, it's pretty impressive, considering the timing starts with the deer on the ground and the leg cuts.
Well, then I go looking for other videos and find this one I posted above, which at the time did not have the name "Peach Orchard" in the video title. Well, that video just blows the other one away, and I only figured out that this is the Peach Orchard processor 15 minutes down the road from me by reading deep into the comments.
The two processors are within 30 minutes of each other, both of their videos are in the youtube deer processing Hall of Fame, and I found each by complete accident.
How do you like all them apples?
You know what's doubly and triply weird? I was in Florence, SC a number of years ago buying some supplies or shooting the breeze or something at a little hunting supply/fishing tackle/taxidermist shop I stop in every once in a while, and the owner showed me a cleaning and skinning video that I had just seen on my own a week or two earlier. "World's fastest deer skinning" or some such in the title. It's up toward the top there at youtube. Anyway, until David pointed it out, I had no idea it's at a place I drive past every so often, but which is a little out of my way. However, it's pretty impressive, considering the timing starts with the deer on the ground and the leg cuts.
Well, then I go looking for other videos and find this one I posted above, which at the time did not have the name "Peach Orchard" in the video title. Well, that video just blows the other one away, and I only figured out that this is the Peach Orchard processor 15 minutes down the road from me by reading deep into the comments.
The two processors are within 30 minutes of each other, both of their videos are in the youtube deer processing Hall of Fame, and I found each by complete accident.
How do you like all them apples?
64.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
And now for something completely different...:wink
At 10.5 ft not exactly "massive" but let's just say I still wouldn't want to meet him in a dark ditch...
And now I'm hungry again.
At 10.5 ft not exactly "massive" but let's just say I still wouldn't want to meet him in a dark ditch...
And now I'm hungry again.
65.) DParker - 10/18/2016
You say, "Alligator"...I say, "Étouffée".
{Roy Scheider}
You're going to need a bigger pot...and a lot more rice.
{/Roy Scheider}
{Roy Scheider}
You're going to need a bigger pot...and a lot more rice.
{/Roy Scheider}
66.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
You know, I'm shocked, but there was a lot of outrage on youtube that someone was cleaning a gator.
I thought it was very nice of him to use a mild soap and a good stiff brush.
I thought it was very nice of him to use a mild soap and a good stiff brush.
67.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
That was interesting. What psi do you normally inflate gators to?
68.) DParker - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44943]That was interesting. What psi do you normally inflate gators to?[/QUOTE]
It depends. Are you using regular air to make a floatation device out of him for your swimming pool...or helium for a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon?
It depends. Are you using regular air to make a floatation device out of him for your swimming pool...or helium for a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon?
69.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
It doesn't really matter unless you're in a zero-gravity environment.
70.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
71.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
I'm glad you posted that. I've always wondered skinning gators. Looks like a lot more work than a whitetail. I bet those ribs taste good too.
72.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
"Candygram..."
When I was a kid, I had a two- or three-foot tall inflatable gator I got from saving a bazillion Baggies boxtops or something. Those were the days... I loved that thing.
When I was a kid, I had a two- or three-foot tall inflatable gator I got from saving a bazillion Baggies boxtops or something. Those were the days... I loved that thing.
73.) DParker - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44948][/QUOTE]
I remember those. Good idea, except that it's really tough to find a place in your fridge for a 15 foot long baggie.
When you started this my first thought was, "Hmmmmm....smoked 'gator.....", naively thinking that I was on to a new idea. Of course, Google quickly reminded me that no matter what occurs to you, it's already occurred to a million other people: [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=smoked+alligator&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=995&tbm=isch&imgil=7_m_JVdHPrY4LM%253A%253BT1dH3LbijQgyYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fthisevilempire.com%25252Fblog%25252F%25253Fp%2525253D160&source=iu&pf=m&fir=7_m_JVdHPrY4LM%253A%252CT1dH3LbijQgyYM%252C_&usg=__lpqwOE8PYAWCTqd5J0sDzR-0Os4%3D#imgrc=_"]Google Image results for "smoked alligator"[/URL]
I thought about something like that when they caught a 13' 6" 'gator near Houston the other day. But I'm going to need a much bigger smoker...and a lot more bacon.
[/QUOTE]I remember those. Good idea, except that it's really tough to find a place in your fridge for a 15 foot long baggie.
When you started this my first thought was, "Hmmmmm....smoked 'gator.....", naively thinking that I was on to a new idea. Of course, Google quickly reminded me that no matter what occurs to you, it's already occurred to a million other people: [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=smoked+alligator&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=995&tbm=isch&imgil=7_m_JVdHPrY4LM%253A%253BT1dH3LbijQgyYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fthisevilempire.com%25252Fblog%25252F%25253Fp%2525253D160&source=iu&pf=m&fir=7_m_JVdHPrY4LM%253A%252CT1dH3LbijQgyYM%252C_&usg=__lpqwOE8PYAWCTqd5J0sDzR-0Os4%3D#imgrc=_"]Google Image results for "smoked alligator"[/URL]
I thought about something like that when they caught a 13' 6" 'gator near Houston the other day. But I'm going to need a much bigger smoker...and a lot more bacon.
74.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
Awesome!
:clap:
:clap:
75.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
You guys are making my tummy rumble.
76.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
That looks like they had an inside deal on the bacon...That's some good-looking stuff.
77.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=DParker;44949]I remember those. Good idea, except that it's really tough to find a place in your fridge for a 15 foot long baggie.
[/QUOTE]
That's a lot of rolling paper too.
[/QUOTE]
That's a lot of rolling paper too.
78.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
LOL...
"What do you need all this oregano for?"
"I'm taking a cooking class, mom."
"What do you need all this oregano for?"
"I'm taking a cooking class, mom."
79.) DParker - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44954]LOL...
"What do you need all this oregano for?"
"I'm taking a cooking class, mom."[/QUOTE]
When I first got serious about making chili I drove to Ft. Worth to a little shop ([URL="http://www.penderys.com/"]Pendery's[/URL]) that sells high quality herbs and spices in bulk packaging, including some things that aren't easy to find in regular grocery stores but necessary for just the right traditional flavors. On the drive home I was very careful not to get pulled over with that big plastic baggie labeled "Mexican Oregano" sitting on the passenger seat.
"What do you need all this oregano for?"
"I'm taking a cooking class, mom."[/QUOTE]
When I first got serious about making chili I drove to Ft. Worth to a little shop ([URL="http://www.penderys.com/"]Pendery's[/URL]) that sells high quality herbs and spices in bulk packaging, including some things that aren't easy to find in regular grocery stores but necessary for just the right traditional flavors. On the drive home I was very careful not to get pulled over with that big plastic baggie labeled "Mexican Oregano" sitting on the passenger seat.
80.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
LOL...
That reminds me of the Don Williams/ Eric Clapton song, "Acapulco Thyme" ...
[I]Well, I left Oklahoma
Drivin' in a Pontiac
Just about to lose my mind
I was goin' to Arizona
Maybe on to California
People are livin' so fine
My mother called me crazy
My baby said I'm lazy
Gonna show 'em all this time
'Cause you know I ain't no fool and
I don't need no more damn school
Born to just walk the line
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
So there I was in Hollywood
Thinkin' I was doin' good
Talkin' on the telephone line
They don't want me in the movies
And nobody sings my songs
Mama said "My baby's doin' fine"
So then I started thinkin'
Then I got the winkin'
I really had a flash this time
That I had no business leavin'
And nobody would be grievin'
You see I'm on Acapulco thyme.
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
[/I]
That reminds me of the Don Williams/ Eric Clapton song, "Acapulco Thyme" ...
[I]Well, I left Oklahoma
Drivin' in a Pontiac
Just about to lose my mind
I was goin' to Arizona
Maybe on to California
People are livin' so fine
My mother called me crazy
My baby said I'm lazy
Gonna show 'em all this time
'Cause you know I ain't no fool and
I don't need no more damn school
Born to just walk the line
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
So there I was in Hollywood
Thinkin' I was doin' good
Talkin' on the telephone line
They don't want me in the movies
And nobody sings my songs
Mama said "My baby's doin' fine"
So then I started thinkin'
Then I got the winkin'
I really had a flash this time
That I had no business leavin'
And nobody would be grievin'
You see I'm on Acapulco thyme.
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
Gonna set my watch back to it
'Cause you know that I've been through it
Livin' on Acapulco thyme
[/I]
81.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
Jim Croce kept his thyme in a bottle, and look what happened to him...
82.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
You have to wonder what Simon and Garfunkel were smoking sometimes, too...
83.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44957]Jim Croce kept his thyme in a bottle, and look what happened to him...[/QUOTE]
Sucess, fame and fortune?
Sucess, fame and fortune?
84.) bluecat - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=DParker;44955]When I first got serious about making chili I drove to Ft. Worth to a little shop ([URL="http://www.penderys.com/"]Pendery's[/URL]) that sells high quality herbs and spices in bulk packaging, including some things that aren't easy to find in regular grocery stores but necessary for just the right traditional flavors. On the drive home I was very careful not to get pulled over with that big plastic baggie labeled "Mexican Oregano" sitting on the passenger seat.[/QUOTE]
Can you play 36 holes on it too?
Can you play 36 holes on it too?
85.) Swamp Fox - 10/18/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44960]Sucess, fame and fortune?[/QUOTE]
Plane crash at age 30 while on his [I]Croce's Life and Times [/I] tour.
Seriously.
Plane crash at age 30 while on his [I]Croce's Life and Times [/I] tour.
Seriously.
86.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
.....
87.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
Tough crowd tonight.
Y'all prolly leave me hangin' on the Scarborough Fair reference too, arntcha?
:p
Y'all prolly leave me hangin' on the Scarborough Fair reference too, arntcha?
:p
88.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44963]Plane crash at age 30 while on his [I]Croce's Life and Times [/I] tour.
Seriously.[/QUOTE]
Ouch, forgot all about that.
Did he write [I]Time in a Bottle[/I] before or after the crash...
Seriously.[/QUOTE]
Ouch, forgot all about that.
Did he write [I]Time in a Bottle[/I] before or after the crash...
89.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44965]Tough crowd tonight.
Y'all prolly leave me hangin' on the Scarborough Fair reference too, arntcha?
:p[/QUOTE]
April must have been a real looker.
Y'all prolly leave me hangin' on the Scarborough Fair reference too, arntcha?
:p[/QUOTE]
April must have been a real looker.
90.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44969]Ouch, forgot all about that.
Did he write [I]Time in a Bottle[/I] before or after the crash...[/QUOTE]
I don't think they had thyme machines or inter-dimensional travel back then, so I'm pretty sure it was before...LOL
Did he write [I]Time in a Bottle[/I] before or after the crash...[/QUOTE]
I don't think they had thyme machines or inter-dimensional travel back then, so I'm pretty sure it was before...LOL
91.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44970]April must have been a real looker.[/QUOTE]
You should have seen Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme...Talk about troubled waters...The melee among them at the Renaissance Fair Swimsuit Competition put [I]Mean Girls[/I] to shame...But that was before we had names like Moon Unit (Zappa)and Bronx Mowgli (Ashlee Simpson), so kids like Apple (Gwyneth Paltrow) and Sage Moonblood (Sylvester Stallone) don't seem so bad by comparison...:-)
You should have seen Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme...Talk about troubled waters...The melee among them at the Renaissance Fair Swimsuit Competition put [I]Mean Girls[/I] to shame...But that was before we had names like Moon Unit (Zappa)and Bronx Mowgli (Ashlee Simpson), so kids like Apple (Gwyneth Paltrow) and Sage Moonblood (Sylvester Stallone) don't seem so bad by comparison...:-)
92.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
That is just a [I]Rumer[/I]. You need to [I]Scout[/I] out more examples (Demi Moore). Possibly look to the[I] North West[/I] (Kim Kardasian).
93.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Jermajesty (Jermaine Jackson)
:laugh::laugh:
:laugh::laugh:
94.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
Scout is actually not all that unusual, at least as a nickname. Goes all the way back to [I]To Kill a Mockingbird. [/I] Maybe further. Anyway, it's less of a mouthful than Jean Louise (if I'm remembering the story correctly).
Faithful Indian Scout or Scout Leader or Scout Master would be a lot worse names...But not as bad as Forward Reconnaissance Operator or Scout Outpost...
Although I could see how Scout Master Blast or something like that would appeal to the hip-hop set...
:grin:
Faithful Indian Scout or Scout Leader or Scout Master would be a lot worse names...But not as bad as Forward Reconnaissance Operator or Scout Outpost...
Although I could see how Scout Master Blast or something like that would appeal to the hip-hop set...
:grin:
95.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Lark Song (Mia Farrow)
:re::re:
:re::re:
96.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44978]Jermajesty (Jermaine Jackson)
:laugh::laugh:[/QUOTE]
LOL
I hadn't heard that one before. He should get together with the college kid who wants to be called Your Exalted Highness or whatever it was....
:laugh::laugh:[/QUOTE]
LOL
I hadn't heard that one before. He should get together with the college kid who wants to be called Your Exalted Highness or whatever it was....
97.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44979]Although I could see how Scout Master Blast or something like that would appeal to the hip-hop set...
:grin:[/QUOTE]
Bow-Ty (50 Cent)
:grin:[/QUOTE]
Bow-Ty (50 Cent)
98.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
Is his daughter named Boo-Tee?
99.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Messiah Ya'Majesty (rapper T.I.)
100.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Tu Morrow (Rob Morrow)
Really? Poor kid.
Really? Poor kid.
101.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Peaches Honeyblossom Michelle Charlotte Angel Vanessa Geldof.
Okay, that takes the cake.
Okay, that takes the cake.
102.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Speck Wildhorse (John Cougar Mellencamp and Elaine Irwin)
Goodness, that really sucks.
Goodness, that really sucks.
103.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
:tu:
104.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
DIVA THIN MUFFIN (Frank Zappa)
Dang, Frank is one creative giant.
Dang, Frank is one creative giant.
105.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
"So, Messiah, how's the job search?"
"Thanks for asking, dad. I can't get an interview anywhere."
"Something will turn up."
"Well, I did meet a kid named Tu in the unemployment line. He seems pretty cool. I'm going over to his crib later to play video games."
"That's my boy!"
"Thanks for asking, dad. I can't get an interview anywhere."
"Something will turn up."
"Well, I did meet a kid named Tu in the unemployment line. He seems pretty cool. I'm going over to his crib later to play video games."
"That's my boy!"
106.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44990]"So, Messiah, how's the tattoo healing?"
"Thanks for asking, mom. Where's dad?"
"Which one?"
"My dad."
"He's on tour I think."[/QUOTE]
fify
"Thanks for asking, mom. Where's dad?"
"Which one?"
"My dad."
"He's on tour I think."[/QUOTE]
fify
107.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Here's another gutless video. Looks like he knows what he is doing.
108.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
"You are the Apple of my eye."
109.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44986]Peaches Honeyblossom Michelle Charlotte Angel Vanessa Geldof.
Okay, that takes the cake.[/QUOTE]
I bet she hates more than Mondays...
Okay, that takes the cake.[/QUOTE]
I bet she hates more than Mondays...
110.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;44979]Scout is actually not all that unusual, at least as a nickname. Goes all the way back to [I]To Kill a Mockingbird. [/I] Maybe further. Anyway, it's less of a mouthful than Jean Louise (if I'm remembering the story correctly).
Faithful Indian Scout or Scout Leader or Scout Master would be a lot worse names...But not as bad as Forward Reconnaissance Operator or Scout Outpost...
Although I could see how Scout Master Blast or something like that would appeal to the hip-hop set...
:grin:[/QUOTE]
Seeing how the only reference I know of is from a book and the dufus' in Idaho, I'd say at the very least it is highly unusual.
Faithful Indian Scout or Scout Leader or Scout Master would be a lot worse names...But not as bad as Forward Reconnaissance Operator or Scout Outpost...
Although I could see how Scout Master Blast or something like that would appeal to the hip-hop set...
:grin:[/QUOTE]
Seeing how the only reference I know of is from a book and the dufus' in Idaho, I'd say at the very least it is highly unusual.
111.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Stay away from the taint. FYI this will never not be funny. Ever.
112.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
That IS a classic...
113.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;44999]Seeing how the only reference I know of is from a book and the dufus' in Idaho, I'd say at the very least it is highly unusual.[/QUOTE]
Which dufus in Idaho are we talking about? I know I need to get out more when I realize I know a lot of dufuses (dufusi?), but none from Idaho.
Which dufus in Idaho are we talking about? I know I need to get out more when I realize I know a lot of dufuses (dufusi?), but none from Idaho.
114.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Demi and Bruce lived/live in Idaho. They aren't together anymore but they still may be there.
115.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
I'll throw you a bone.
116.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2016
I'm proud to say I did get the Geldof reference, but thank you for the assist with Demi. I haven't paid any attention to her since [I]St. Elmo's Fire[/I]. I think that was it. Anyway, she was damn cute in whatever movie I'm thinking of, but I think that might have been her high point.
117.) bluecat - 10/19/2016
Her highest points were in [I]Striptease[/I]. Just sayin.