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1.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Headed out to the Flint Hills where I know some big bucks lurk. My furry little friends found me again though.



2.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
The thing is, you can run them off but you are wasting your time. They each have to inspect the decoy before they will leave. So it's best just to let them get acquainted so they'll get bored and finally leave.
3.) Triton Rich - 11/10/2014
[B] Those cows are just making pests of themselves! [/B]
4.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
It's like have sex with Kobe Bryant. You can kick and scream all you want but it's gonna happen.
5.) bluecat - 11/10/2014




The decoy is a carrylite. It is cumbersome and noisy, but that's really par for the course for a 3-D decoy. Don't shoot the piano player it is what it is.
I made some antler modifications to promote some good ol' fight'n.

I just wish there were some deer that would actually see it.
6.) bluecat - 11/10/2014



The decoy is a carrylite. It is cumbersome and noisy, but that's really par for the course for a 3-D decoy. Don't shoot the piano player it is what it is.
I made some antler modifications to promote some good ol' fight'n. I like the decoy and I think it is realistic.

I just wish there were some deer that would actually see it.
7.) bluecat - 11/10/2014


This is my little traveling side show. I had to walk about 3/4's of a mile to get to this spot. I chose this area because it was protected by the wind. There is a creek that is about 15 yards away and a patch of woods nearby. I was hoping some bucks would follow that creek looking for love.

Tomorrow (Veterans Day) it's supposed to get real nasty and stay in the low 30's. It's gonna be cold but I'm going to give it try.
8.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
I see a deer about a mile and and a half out there, by those big trees.

Turn your 10x binoculars up to 11. :wink

Those look like the kind of mountains Luv2 is always going on about. What's out there on that steep slope to the right? More prairie grass?

:-)
9.) bluecat - 11/10/2014



Bad pic, sorry. This is my stand which is only about 5 feet from the ground. Any higher and I would stick out like sore thumb. Cedars are great camoflage and I didn't need my Buck Steps.
10.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
I like the legs and muscles on that deke. Appparently that huge cow thinks they're sexy, too. That's a lot of beef looking for love.

So how can you actually tell if a cow is bored?


Tell us about your antler mods.
11.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
If you've ever seen the Flint Hills they are beautiful. An interesting phenomena. They are mostly short grass (little bluestem), prickly pear cactus etc. Mostly grass with cedars and Burr Oaks in the creek beds. In this area there is no row crop agriculture so the population doesn't compare with other places. Doesn't get as much pressure too which leads me to think that I might get a chance at a nice buck. Just haven't seen anything so far.
12.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;26982]I like the legs and muscles on that deke. Appparently that huge cow thinks their sexy, too. That's a lot of beef looking for love.

So how can you actually tell if a cow is bored?[/QUOTE]

Deerminator? Calling Deerminator!

At one point a few of them laid down by the decoy to keep it company. I'm thinking that is a really nice gesture on their part.
13.) bluecat - 11/10/2014



There is the harness I ordered on Swampy's recommendation. I'll try and talk more about it as I get more familiar.
14.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
LOL...Most cows are pretty neighborly, til they get to drinking. And the farting!

Jeez!...It's like they were raised in a barn...
15.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;26985]


There is the harness I ordered on Swampy's recommendation. I'll try and talk more about it as I get more familiar.[/QUOTE]


Cool! I was wondering how its inaugural hunts were going.

:tu:
16.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;26986]LOL...Most cows are pretty neighborly, til they get to drinking. And the farting!
Jeez!...It's like they were raised in a barn...[/QUOTE]

LOL! I know right?
17.) Deerminator - 11/10/2014
ya know what's going threw my mind

18.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Deerminator;26991]ya know what's going threw my mind
[/QUOTE]
19.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
20.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
I have to admit, I cracked myself up with that one.
21.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
It's a good thing that we can amuse ourselves, right?

:beer:
22.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;26982]

Tell us about your antler mods.[/QUOTE]

I omitted the one antler and cut the main beam back to make the antlers look even smaller. He needs to look like a high-school punk.
23.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
Check with Big Al about that...I think he described himself as a young midway carnie with cheek fuzz...

So he knows what you're talking about...
24.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27000]I omitted the one antler and cut the main beam back to make the antlers look even smaller. He needs to look like a high-school punk.[/QUOTE]


Have you thought about skinny jeans?
25.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Good idea. If leather jackets weren't so expensive.


"What are you rebelling against?"

"What have you got?"
26.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
LOL...

I just have to laugh at people when I see them in skinny jeans...Sometimes I bet they think "Hey, this hipster irony thing is working!"
27.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Remind me to tell you the story about the papa bull and the baby bull. It's a real tear jerker.
28.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
OK...Consider this your reminder. :-)
29.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
It's not rated PG.
30.) Deerminator - 11/10/2014
:laugh:those were the days:tu:
31.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
It's not the one where they're standing on a hill looking down at a herd of lady cows, is it?
32.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
How do you handle your animal and get it out? I've tried to get a little system to hang it for gutless dressing and quartering or even boning out. Needs a few tweaks, though. This is for when I don't have a cart around the corner and the Bronco's too far to dump gear at and bring back a sled.
33.) Wild Bob - 11/10/2014
Good luck! (As I was looking at your first picture, I was reminded of the the line, "Don't look behind you now...")

Thanks for sharing the pictures, it's aways neat to see what everyone else is doing. :tu:
34.) Wild Bob - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;27012]How do you handle your animal and get it out? I've tried to get a little system to hang it for gutless dressing and quartering or even boning out. Needs a few tweaks, though. This is for when I don't have a cart around the corner and the Bronco's too far to dump gear at and bring back a sled.[/QUOTE]

Here's a picture of a friend of mine getting his elk out last week...slave labor and lots hard work!! LOL

[URL=http://s763.photobucket.com/user/WildBob_2009/media/photo_zps00286e42.jpg.html][/URL]
35.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Yeah, its the one about the lady cows. It seems to pull at my heartstrings...


Looks like we're all in the same boat in terms of getting the animal out.

What I do Swampy, is I'll do the gutless method and then in my kill bag, I've got some alaska game bags and a duffle bag. It all goes in there and the cart will get it to the Blazer and on home to the ice bottle cooler. I'll bone it out the next day.
36.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;27013]Good luck! (As I was looking at your first picture, I was reminded of the the line, "Don't look behind you now...")

Thanks for sharing the pictures, it's aways neat to see what everyone else is doing. :tu:[/QUOTE]

I agree. I would have liked to show you a nice big buck but I know people enjoy just seeing how everyone tries to accomplish the same thing. I'm not any different.
37.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;27012]How do you handle your animal and get it out? I've tried to get a little system to hang it for gutless dressing and quartering or even boning out. Needs a few tweaks, though. This is for when I don't have a cart around the corner and the Bronco's too far to dump gear at and bring back a sled.[/QUOTE]

We could probably make an entire thread about that. I've still trying to come up with a perfect method myself.
38.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
The game bags and the duffel bag sound familiar, LOL. My back tells me I shouldn't work on animals on the ground anymore, so I'm looking for some gizmo to get the animal up in the air away from the tree trunk.

Up in the air is no problem, even though we don't have many trees with low horizontal limbs...A couple of tree steps to get high enough, an eyehook and screwdriver (to turn the eyehook) and a paracord or rope pulley system...But I need some type of light, packable gizmo or trick to get the carcass away from the trunk....:tap: Also, would be nice if the eyebolts went in the trees easier...
39.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27017]We could probably make an entire thread about that. I've still trying to come up with a perfect method myself.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps someone could suggest a site that has that kind of information...:wink:wink

I'd like to find a shorter boning knife that would fit in my kill bag. Right now the good boning knife stays in camp and I have a cheapo supermarket paring knife in the bag. What I need to do is see if I can find a little filet knife with a stiffer-than-normal blade...But I'd really like to find a substantial upswept blade like a true boning knife has.

Maybe something they use on small tuna fish...
40.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;27019]Perhaps someone could suggest a site that has that kind of information...:wink:wink

I'd like to find a shorter boning knife that would fit in my kill bag. Right now the good boning knife stays in camp and I have a cheapo supermarket paring knife in the bag. What I need to do is see if I can find a little filet knife with a stiffer-than-normal blade...But I'd really like to find a substantial upswept blade like a true boning knife has.

Maybe something they use on small tuna fish...[/QUOTE]

You had a link you sent to someone the other day that had meatman in it. So I know you know who I'm talking about. I got a couple of nice Victorinox knives from him. They are great boning knives as they are a little flexible and hold an edge.

For in in-field knife, I've found nothing better than my Knives of Alaska alpha wolf. SV steel, small, drop point. It's got it all.
41.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;27018]The game bags and the duffel bag sound familiar, LOL. My back tells me I shouldn't work on animals on the ground anymore, so I'm looking for some gizmo to get the animal up in the air away from the tree trunk.

Up in the air is no problem, even though we don't have many trees with low horizontal limbs...A couple of tree steps to get high enough, an eyehook and screwdriver (to turn the eyehook) and a paracord or rope pulley system...But I need some type of light, packable gizmo or trick to get the carcass away from the trunk....:tap: Also, would be nice if the eyebolts went in the trees easier...[/QUOTE]

I had something like that made but it's not practical for taking with you in the field. We need to come up with something we can take with us.

42.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
The orange cord is from one of the pully systems that cinch the deer up and when you let go it stays put. I use that to winch the deer up. Once the deer is at the proper height I lower it down to a really heavy gambrel attached to a rope. I wouldn't trust the orange cinch system when I pulled hard on that deer. The cinch system is just for getting the deer up to the heavy gambrel. Does that make sense?
43.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
Thanks for that. I'll go back and look.

If I kill something in the morning, I like to bone it out in the field if nothing else is feasible, but usually it's pretty warm and you just want to get the quarters in the bags ASAP, so I wuss out a lot and drag/carry a lot more weight than I need to, LOL. I think I've convinced myself I'm too slow to bone out on an evening hunt. I'd still be out there at 11 PM instead of 10....:re:...Depending on daylight savings, of course, LOL

I kinda got away from the way-back hunting the last few years, so I'm a little rusty and could use a tune-up on technique and gear...:tu:
44.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
The nice thing about hanging your deer is the skin is folded back and no hair on meat. The "on your side" method works but I always get hair on the meat. It might be I just need to practice more...:wink
45.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27022]The orange cord is from one of the pully systems that cinch the deer up and when you let go it stays put. I use that to winch the deer up. Once the deer is at the proper height I lower it down to a really heavy gambrel attached to a rope. I wouldn't trust the orange cinch system when I pulled hard on that deer. The cinch system is just for getting the deer up to the heavy gambrel. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE]

Makes sense. I've seen those type of triangle supports before.

I have a neat gambrel that is three-piece with spring buttons for adjustable width and cable nooses for gripping legs. A little too heavy to put in my pack sometimes, but it is packable because it breaks down into maybe a 15-18 x 3-4-inch package with no hooks to tear up other stuff or your pack.

A triangle brace that folds up "like tent poles" on hinges would work if you could make it light enough.
46.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[url]http://askthemeatman.com/forschner-victorinox-5-inch-boning-knife.htm[/url]
47.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[url]http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2177112600/knives-of-alaska-alpha-wolf-fixed-blade-knife-375-drop-point-blade[/url]


Available in tool steel and 30SV. Get the 30SV steel.
48.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Don't mean to sound like an equipment nazi. There's a lot of good options out there. These are just some that I like.
49.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
Meatman V boning knife:

Cool. I'd like to find something like that in the 8 or 9-inch sheathed overall range. It's a long story, LOL. I might give that one a try just for s n g's in the meantime if I can't find anything else easily.
50.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
The alpha wolf is kinda middle of the road for everything. The victorinox are the true boning knives.

Always keep your boner sheathed.
51.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
LOL...

Old boners never die...They just stay in the drawers...
52.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Swampy, see if you can invoke your executive powers and get DParker to post. I miss that li'l feller. Give his team an extra 10 points if he does.
53.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
:tap:

Don't make me come down there.
54.) Wild Bob - 11/10/2014
Come on man...you[I] know [/I]that you're an equipment nazi... :-)


"LOL...

Old boners never die...They just stay in the drawers... " - and wilt. :shocked:
55.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
:huh:
56.) Wild Bob - 11/10/2014
I'm kind of partial to packing along a trapper skinning knife similar to this: [url]http://www.nwtrappers.com/catalog/proddetail.asp?prod=DRFCCK[/url]
- They are lightweight, last forever, have a textured handle that doesn't slip, and the best thing to me: with the soft carbon steel, I can easily and quickly keep a razor sharp edge on it.

But there's always more than one way to skin a cat...so I'll shut up now.
57.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;27039]I'm kind of partial to packing along a trapper skinning knife similar to this: [url]http://www.nwtrappers.com/catalog/proddetail.asp?prod=DRFCCK[/url]
- They are lightweight, last forever, have a textured handle that doesn't slip, and the best thing to me: with the soft carbon steel, I can easily and quickly keep a razor sharp edge on it.

But there's always more than one way to skin a cat...so I'll shut up now.[/QUOTE]

That looks similar to knives I see in the food service industry. Rugged and looks like the perfect size too. How many ways are there to skin a cat?
58.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
Poultry knife! Why didn't I think of that?! I bet if I'd seen one at the grocery store I would have picked it over the paring knife. For $7, I don't mind running the paring knife over bone in the field or in the dark when I'd ruin a better knife. The blade on a poultry knife is more appropriate, though.

A variety of knives here including Dexter Russell and Victorinox:

[url]http://chickenpickers.com/knives.html[/url]

[url]http://accuratesharp.com/system/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=118&cat=Forschner+Poultry+Knives[/url]
59.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Those knives are better options than choking the chicken. Can I say that?
60.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
Tell that to Wayne Bobbit...Strangulation wasn't good enough for Lorena...

I wonder where she is these days...No, really, I wonder. Sometimes it makes me sleep with the lights on.
61.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27033]Swampy, see if you can invoke your executive powers and get DParker to post. I miss that li'l feller. Give his team an extra 10 points if he does.[/QUOTE]

I try to use my executive powers for evil, and not for good...

He has a plan that if I join the dark side and get a smartphone, we can rule the galaxy as father and son...

Which is kinda weird, but at least I'd be the son...
62.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
Yeah, I can see it now. Son, you go mow the lawn while I sit and have this cold refreshing drink. I know DParker's game.
63.) bluecat - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;27039]I'm kind of partial to packing along a trapper skinning knife similar to this: [url]http://www.nwtrappers.com/catalog/proddetail.asp?prod=DRFCCK[/url]
- They are lightweight, last forever, have a textured handle that doesn't slip, and the best thing to me: with the soft carbon steel, I can easily and quickly keep a razor sharp edge on it.

But there's always more than one way to skin a cat...so I'll shut up now.[/QUOTE]

So you are saying your boners are soft?
64.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27051]Yeah, I can see it now. Son, you go mow the lawn while I sit and have this cold refreshing drink. I know DParker's game.[/QUOTE]

It's looking like I'll be able to resist the temptation...It'd cost me even more money than I'm spending now and, ironically, there's no app for that...
65.) Wild Bob - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27052]So you are saying your boners are soft?[/QUOTE]

Nah, thats in 800 HB range...its [I]the carbon blade [/I]thats in the 120ish range...:wink
66.) Swamp Fox - 11/10/2014
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67.) Deerminator - 11/10/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;26985]


There is the harness I ordered on Swampy's recommendation. I'll try and talk more about it as I get more familiar.[/QUOTE]

kinda like sheep boots
68.) Deerminator - 11/11/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;27027][url]http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2177112600/knives-of-alaska-alpha-wolf-fixed-blade-knife-375-drop-point-blade[/url]


Available in tool steel and 30SV. Get the 30SV steel.[/QUOTE]

Nice blade.
69.) Deerminator - 11/11/2014
I guess we're spoiled up here. We normally drag the deer to the field and toss it on the truck and drive it to the butchers or the barn.
or
drive to the carcass
70.) Swamp Fox - 11/11/2014






[url]http://gatorhanger.com/Site/About_Gator_Hanger.html[/url]

I don't remember seeing this last time I searched. At 8 pounds plus the ratchet it would be reasonable to haul this back in after the first gear dump (when I've hiked back to the truck for a cart or a sled or a meat hauling pack anyway). I'm always trying to eliminate that trip, though. The cost of these is reasonable enough that you could stash a couple in the woods along with sleds if you have the ability to prepare that way.

I would love to be able to haul meat out in my regular pack along with my regular gear, but there's never enough room and muscle, LOL. Maybe if I carried just a weapon, a knife and some rope. :tap:
71.) Swamp Fox - 11/11/2014
[video=youtube;DMjpIuyS9Vk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DMjpIuyS9Vk[/video]